Unban Crab

[Smear]

What reasons are there to unban 'em? Are there even any?

Probably not.

 

We should hire Anonymous, that'll fix our problems.

That's an excellent suggestion. Make a thread now.

[FTW (For The Wynn)]

We should hire Anonymous, that'll fix our problems.

I could go into the long, tedious reasoning as to why this is a pointless suggestion, but I'll sum it up in 4 words. "Not your personal army." That's all you are likely to get.

[Guest God Machismo!!!!!]

So, a person who deleted the admin's account (i.e. a very serious offense) should be unbanned because some people like her?

 

Wow.

[Guest Barthandelus Alpha]

It doesn't hugely matter what we say in this thread. As much as people like Crab, unbanning her solves nothing, her getting banned solved nothing. So it doesn't matter either way.

 

And literally the only way of getting YCMaker back here would be to sabotage the card maker. And unless someone feels like hacking the the site, and screwing around with it that way, there is nothing we can do. And i for one don't know or would want that to happen, since he may just decide to delete the forum and just leave the card maker up.

 

So really, until the people using the card maker stop visiting it of there own acord due to lack of Xyz and things, then nothing is going to happen. We just have to play a waiting game.

[Brushfire]

Crab unbanned yet? Yeah?

 

Good good.

[Dwarven King]

I don't know anything about this, but I like Crab. Let's bring him back.

 

Her. <_<

 

Also...are we seriously this bored that we are arguing whether or not we should leave Crab banned when we ALL know she is under a new account? I think we should all just forget about this since there is nothing we can do about Crab's situation (still love you though Crab!) and YCMaker's lack of presence and start posting funny faces.

 

[Sleepy]

No idea of what Crab's new account might be, but if something like that exists, then this thread is indeed pointless.

 

Though if that wasn't the case, I'd support unbanning Crab.

-Crab is did indeed, perform a bannable offence towards the administrator, but Crab is no pointless troll/spammer with a wide history of banable offences. There is no harm in bringing Crab back.

-Crab is a very important member of this site. I wouldn't give a crap about the fan-fic section if Crab didn't exist, and I'm sure the fan-fic section can't be the only place that Crab affected positively.

-YCMaker deserves it. Having people openly ask him to help him run the site and maintain users happy, without being payed, and deciding to say no without even caring about the site's forum himself, is unreasonable.

 

 

 

I don't know anything about running a site, but if someone has the initiative, knowledge, and materials:

The last resort would be to create an exact replica of the current YCM and have as many people as possible to move over there.

Once there, It'd be basically YCM, but with an active admin, and a different name.

Then as a form of protest, have everyone's last post here be a link to that place and saying you'll leave to go there. That way it'd be possible to follow everyone to the new world.

 

^Of course, I am not sure we are bad enough to be on that extreme... and the Card Maker is most likely the biggest issue. So IDK.

[Brushfire]

The last resort would be to create an exact replica of the current YCM and have as many people as possible to move over there.

 

That would be violating several copyright laws surely.

[Nu-Mou Knight]

No idea of what Crab's new account might be, but if something like that exists, then this thread is indeed pointless.

 

Though if that wasn't the case, I'd support unbanning Crab.

-Crab is did indeed, perform a bannable offence towards the administrator, but Crab is no pointless troll/spammer with a wide history of banable offences. There is no harm in bringing Crab back.

-Crab is a very important member of this site. I wouldn't give a crap about the fan-fic section if Crab didn't exist, and I'm sure the fan-fic section can't be the only place that Crab affected positively.

-YCMaker deserves it. Having people openly ask him to help him run the site and maintain users happy, without being payed, and deciding to say no without even caring about the site's forum himself, is unreasonable.

 

 

 

I don't know anything about running a site, but if someone has the initiative, knowledge, and materials:

The last resort would be to create an exact replica of the current YCM and have as many people as possible to move over there.

Once there, It'd be basically YCM, but with an active admin, and a different name.

Then as a form of protest, have everyone's last post here be a link to that place and saying you'll leave to go there. That way it'd be possible to follow everyone to the new world.

 

^Of course, I am not sure we are bad enough to be on that extreme... and the Card Maker is most likely the biggest issue. So IDK.

 

Thing is, the majority of his income comes from users of the card maker itself and the ad on that maker, which would continue functioning and show up on Google second to a search of "card maker" and first to "yugioh card maker". We don't make that much of an impact if we don't use it, and I assume many members don't.

[Sleepy]

That would be violating several copyright laws surely.

 

IDK about that. I didn't mean it as in everything exact. I mostly meant same sections with other names.

Fan-Fiction = Fun Fiction (example for the lolz)

Custom Cards = Created Cards

etc.

Then if the site tittle is different, and the card maker is not stupidly copy/pasting this site's, there wouldn't be a problem.

 

 

Then again, the idea is a bit... out there in any case, =P

[Guest Kakashi Hatake]

-Crab is did indeed, perform a bannable offence towards the administrator, but Crab is no pointless troll/spammer with a wide history of banable offences. There is no harm in bringing Crab back.

You don't need to do multiple bad things to get banned. It's enough to do one really bad thing to get banned.

 

-Crab is a very important member of this site. I wouldn't give a crap about the fan-fic section if Crab didn't exist, and I'm sure the fan-fic section can't be the only place that Crab affected positively.

Crab being important is only your opinion. :T What has Crab really done that everyone benefitted from?

 

-YCMaker deserves it. Having people openly ask him to help him run the site and maintain users happy, without being payed, and deciding to say no without even caring about the site's forum himself, is unreasonable.

Again, opinion. Though, I'm not saying that you're not entitled to it.

 

Is there really any positively firm reason to unban Crab? I mean, something that's outside of opinion.

[Sleepy]

Thing is, the majority of his income comes from users of the card maker itself and the ad on that maker, which would continue functioning and show up on Google second to a search of "card maker" and first to "yugioh card maker". We don't make that much of an impact if we don't use it, and I assume many members don't.

 

That's true.

Though it's more about "complaining members having the initiative to make something that'll make people happy" and less about "ruin YCMaker's bussiness".

The reason for the "link" part was meant to cover that. People Visit YCM. People use the Cardmaker only?

-Yes: Then I guess that's true.

-No: Then they'll come to the forum.

If the answer is "no", those members ought to see those links and their explanations. Which would help (if everything ever gets done, it'd be a collective job so, there shouldn't be ban/delete of those links if everyone generally agreed on it. So there shouldn't be a reason for those comments to dissapear unless YCMaker looks at them himself.)

 

 

Though something inside me tells me it's a rather ridiculous idea anyways. Just posted it for no real reason.

 

Is there really any positively firm reason to unban Crab? I mean, something that's outside of opinion.

 

Crab being important is only your opinion. :T What has Crab really done that everyone benefitted from?

^Crab served a purpose at the Fan-fic section.

Even though I couldn't call it exactly a good thing to encourage members by such a reason, Crab did encourage writers with Foe Fiction xD

Even when Crab insulted most of the other members, those members mostly ended up thanking Crab for it. Even when Crab's activity at that place has decreased lately, Crab's threads stay there as a good manual for what should be avoided, and examples of how things should/shouldn't be executed while writing.

I don't know what your thought process here is, but I call that a "positive" thing.

 

Again, opinion. Though, I'm not saying that you're not entitled to it

^There is a difference between "opinion" and "common sense", and you seem to miss it in what you are replying to with that statement. Or you'll tell me you think YCMaker would loose anything in any way from it?

 

You don't need to do multiple bad things to get banned. It's enough to do one really bad thing to get banned.

^This one is true, and that's that part of my post I'd indeed call "opinion" on my part, and It's obviously up for debate.

You seem to strongly be against anyone in favor of Crab yourself.

I still think that there can't be any harm on having Crab back so, why oppose it with such a passion?

I'd be left with no arument in defense if Crab comes back and repeats what she did. Otherwise it was something that more than one person here wanted to see someone try. It was worth trying even when we all found out it led to a dead end at the end.

[Guest Kakashi Hatake]

Again, opinion. Though, I'm not saying that you're not entitled to it

^There is a difference between "opinion" and "common sense", and you seem to miss it in what you are replying to with that statement. Or you'll tell me you think YCMaker would loose anything in any way from it?

When I said that, I meant that "YCMaker deserves it." was opinion.

 

You don't need to do multiple bad things to get banned. It's enough to do one really bad thing to get banned.

^This one is true, and that's that part of my post I'd indeed call "opinion" on my part, and It's obviously up for debate.

You seem to strongly be against anyone in favor of Crab yourself.

I still think that there can't be any harm on having Crab back so, why oppose it with such a passion?

I'd be left with no arument in defense if Crab comes back and repeats what she did. Otherwise it was something that more than one person here wanted to see someone try. It was worth trying even when we all found out it led to a dead end at the end.

I'm not opposing anything with a passion. Passion implies that I care a lot. I simply think that it's absurd to think that Crab should be unbanned because people like him/her. Because she/he has done good things in the past doesn;t mean that the bad things Crab's done means nothing.

[Sleepy]

I'm not opposing anything with a passion. Passion implies that I care a lot. I simply think that it's absurd to think that Crab should be unbanned because people like him/her. Because she/he has done good things in the past doesn;t mean that the bad things Crab's done means nothing.

 

I must be really bored right now, but I read every comment in this thread, and you are the second top poster with 18 comments so far. Also, all your comments are more or less of the same nature, criticizing pro-Crab comments. That's where I get the impression from. It's not exactly "baseless".

 

YAY for both opposing sides discussing in a pointless thread about their opinions.

 

When I said that, I meant that "YCMaker deserves it." was opinion.

^Fair enough.

[Guest Kakashi Hatake]

I'd be all for unbanning Crab if someone can give a good reason. Not because he's done good in the past. Not because you like him.

[Brushfire]

I'd be all for unbanning Crab if someone can give a good reason. Not because he's done good in the past. Not because you like him.

 

Because firing someone for an error of judgement is out of order. People who don't even know what happened make some stupid assumptions about Crab's banning.

[Guest Kakashi Hatake]

Because firing someone for an error of judgement is out of order. People who don't even know what happened make some stupid assumptions about Crab's banning.

Error of jusdgement? Every bad decision is an "error of judgement". Trolling, spamming, deleting the admin's account. "I didn't mean to." isn;t a viable excuse. :T

[Sleepy]

I'd be all for unbanning Crab if someone can give a good reason. Not because he's done good in the past. Not because you like him.

 

Look at it this way. The TCG calls it "necessary evil" when talking about "Heavy Storm".

Crab is something like that. It can generate "evil", but much of what Crab does is necessary.

 

What about because "all the above" in your statement?

People like Crab, but there are legit reasons why people like Crab, so it goes a bit beyond just boiling it down to "people like Crab".

Because "Crab has done good in the past" also has the promise of "doing good in the future", unlike any random Level 1 spammer that posts porn" js.

 

Then again, I've gotten a bit much into this thread's comments. I also don't want to defend Crab more than I actually want to...

[Guest Yuzuru Otonashi]

Look at it this way. The TCG calls it "necessary evil" when talking about "Heavy Storm".

Crab is something like that. It can generate "evil", but much of what Crab does is necessary.

What about because "all the above" in your statement?

People like Crab, but there are legit reasons why people like Crab, so it goes a bit beyond just boiling it down to "people like Crab".

Because "Crab has done good in the past" also has the promise of "doing good in the future", unlike any random Level 1 spammer that posts porn" js.

Then again, I've gotten a bit much into this thread's comments. I also don't want to defend Crab more than I actually want to...

If Crab is a card, it's Royal Oppression. No, not for the silly MODS = ROYALTY analogy, for the fact that, at one time, yes, she could be considered good... But now she's terrible for the site/game. Royal Oppression has NO good to do in the future. People like Royal Oppression, doesn't make it any less of a negative influence. Crab's done nothing constructive for months on end, only popping up to heckle people. I don't see why we need that.

[Brushfire]

Error of jusdgement? Every bad decision is an "error of judgement". Trolling, spamming, deleting the admin's account. "I didn't mean to." isn;t a viable excuse. :T

 

If you f*** up at work, chances are they aren't going to sack you for one mistake. Granted this was a pretty big one, but Crab didn't mean to do it. This is the same thing except Crab doesn't get paid. People that troll? They are fully aware of the reaction that their action will cause. It's not the same thing at all. Cause and effect just doesn't work like that.

 

Also, "jusdgement", "isn;t"? You steaming or what?

[Guest God Machismo!!!!!]

If you f*** up at work, chances are they aren't going to sack you for one mistake. Granted this was a pretty big one, but Crab didn't mean to do it. This is the same thing except Crab doesn't get paid. People that troll? They are fully aware of the reaction that their action will cause. It's not the same thing at all. Cause and effect just doesn't work like that.

 

Also, "jusdgement", "isn;t"? You steaming or what?

 

Crab may have not meant to do it, but she shouldn't have been messing with an admin's account in the first place.

[Brushfire]

Crab may have not meant to do it, but she shouldn't have been messing with an admin's account in the first place.

 

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[Guest Yuzuru Otonashi]

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Quit being an ass. Either post constructively, or get out. This being "your" thread means nothing.

[Brushfire]

Quit being an ass. Either post constructively, or get out. This being "your" thread means nothing.

 

Whoa, no-one asked for hypocrisy to come into the thread. You're just like that doorman last night, telling me to get out.

[Guest Kanade Otonashi]

Just because she didn't "mean to do it" (Which I highly doubt considering you don't go around playing with the admin account for shits and giggles. Moreso to try and prove something.) doesn't mean she shouldn't be punished for it. She shouldn't have been messing with it at all.