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Bahamut Shark, combos?.... yes i realize this is an OCG card

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[img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120719040235/yugioh/images/thumb/0/0a/BahamutShark-VJMP-JP-OP.jpg/299px-BahamutShark-VJMP-JP-OP.jpg[/img]

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[left]Sea Serpent[/left]
[left][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]2 Level 4 WATER monsters[/background][/left]
[left][size=4][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]Once per turn[/background][/font][/size][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]: You can detach [/background][/font][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]1 Xyz Material [/background][/font][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]from this card; Special Summon [/background][/font][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]1 R[/background][/font]ank [font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]3 or lower WATER Xyz Monster [/background][/font][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]from your E[/background][/font]xtra Deck[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]. This card cannot declare [/background][/font][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]an attack[/background][/font][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)] the turn you activate [/background][/font][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]this effect.[/spoiler][/background][/font][/left]


[left][size=4][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]Right now, only targets are: "Number 17: Leviathan Dragon", Number 30: Acid Golem of Destruction", "Submersible Carrier Aero Shark", "Wind-Up Carrier Zenmaighty". Leviathan would be 2000 monster that can't atk directly and aero shark would be 1900 that can atk anytime. I don't think anyone would summon zenmaighty with this as it would be useless and no one would summon golem unless u have creature swap. Aero shark or Leviathan with this guy? Should he be ran at all? Will people answer these QUESTiONS?[/background][/font][/size][/left]

[left][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]Note: It's pic it uber epic *drools[/background][/font][/left]

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Pretty bad when compared to Pearl as a general 2600 beatstick.

I'd say that in a Creature Swap based deck, you should include this on the off chance you want to lock down your opponent with a dead Acid Golem, provided you play the monsters required to make this.

I can't see this card gaining too much advantage in pure WATER themed decks via its effect. I don't see when you'd be at a point where you would rather make this over another card that can pro-actively be doing something as opposed to building up your field with small beat-sticks. I'd more often then not just want to be attacking for the 2600.

Also, from Dgz.

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Amazing addition to the Gadget deck which already use Creature Swap and have access to Gear Gigant X which can search this guy out.[/size][/color]
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Tin Goldish > Gadget > Search Gadget > Gear Gigant X > Search Tin Goldfish[/size][/color]
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> Opponent does some s***.[/size][/color]
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Now if they turtle up, you would before make another Rank 4 (Papilloperative, Gear Gigant, or Maestroke) or you could search for Gearframe and bring out a Fortress.[/size][/color]
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This new Xyz monster which requires 0 deck dedication makes it so that if you have a creature swap, you can make a Bahamut (while you still have that gadget) and swap the Golem for their facedown (probably neutralizing it like a Ryko or Sangan or some s***).[/size][/color]
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This puts your opponent on a 4 turn clock and they have to waste resources to blow it up while dealing with the burn. At the same time, you can stall and build up your own field with Gadgets, search for Offerings, or make Fortresses until they've either killed it, its killed them, or you've built up a big enough field to OTK through it.[/size][/color]
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The problem with this card is that if you get Acid Golem out, most decks have some form of removal whether it be Torrential Tribute, Dark Hole, Tributing it for something, or just blowing that s*** up with a Hornet.[/size][/color]
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But this is still a welcomed addition to the deck.[/size][/color][color=#BCBCBC][size=3]
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Shark Carrier isn't worth running just so this can summon it, imo. At the time being, you're better off allotting the space the two use to other things.

Honestly bahamut is poorly designed because of the design restriction it puts on future r 3 and lower water xyz.

EDIT: pulling a 1900 beater out of nowhere is by no means undwhelming if you can protect the two and follow through aggressively with both monster's attacks the turn after, cornering the opponent early. However, most water decks have difficulty making r4 and when you can, you're probably better off making a more support oriented monster.

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I run this in my Mermail deck and usually get him + aero shark first turn. (Considering it's not inzektors deck) He survived on my field for a pretty long time (aero shark too). I like it and willing to give the space, but i just wish they had better water xyz (did anyone see that new gagagigo)

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[quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1343110596' post='5987200']
I don't see how turning 2 monsters into beatsticks on a whim is a horrible effect.
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Were u talking to me?... i thought i made my feelings clear that i border line "love" this card

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I was playing and got this result :P
[img]http://i.imgur.com/B5YJ6.jpg[/img]
Yes i realize my opponent was using newby cards (it might look like he's using D.D. or macro monarch, but it was just a mish mash of cards) and had a 60 card deck, but it was still kewl......... Anyone else have a Bahamut related achivement?

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Weeelllll, the only real way to combo off Bahamut Shark, from experience, is to Overlay using an Atlantean Seahorsemen + some other Level 4 WATER monster. Use Bahamut's effect, grab Aero Shark, trigger the effect of Seahorsemen and grab a Moulin Glace. Suddenly, once both Monsters are gone, you've got a grand total of 4 different WATER monsters in the graveyard, which is just one off from actually summoning Moulin Glace, and further screwing with your opponent if they haven't already wasted a Dark Hole/some-other-form-of-removal (barring Inzektor from this).

So, yeah, that.

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[quote name='Johnny Raptor' timestamp='1343127088' post='5987298']
Weeelllll, the only real way to combo off Bahamut Shark, from experience, is to Overlay using an Atlantean Seahorsemen + some other Level 4 WATER monster. Use Bahamut's effect, grab Aero Shark, trigger the effect of Seahorsemen and grab a Moulin Glace. Suddenly, once both Monsters are gone, you've got a grand total of 4 different WATER monsters in the graveyard, which is just one off from actually summoning Moulin Glace, and further screwing with your opponent if they haven't already wasted a Dark Hole/some-other-form-of-removal (barring Inzektor from this).

So, yeah, that.
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That sound like fun, but situational and hard to pull + Moulin Glace isn't that great.... You know Bahamut IS a beater right.. that swarms field with other beaters...why not just "beat" the opponent..cuz it's a beater...that beats...

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[quote name='HiveNet' timestamp='1343134343' post='5987381']
Seeing as WATER seems to be what Konami are pushing, this thing is going to get an awful lot of support fairly quickly i would say. Still, its a gem knight pearl, that can swarm beaters in a water deck. Whats not to love?
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My point exactly, p.s. i LOVE the fact that konami is pushing water, THANK GOODNESS WE HAVE A MAIN CHAR WATER DUELIST IN ANIME... Me+Water=4everz


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I think people also forget that you can wait until Main Phase 2 to summon him, meaning at the end of your turn you're swapping into bigger monsters if the situational requires them.
[/quote] I already do this o.0

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[quote name='HiveNet' timestamp='1343135430' post='5987411']
Things fun to use in Atlanteans as well. Diva pulls Armed soilder, Ancient City lemuria puts both at level 4. I either synchro for stardust, or overlay for this thing. Particularly since Lemuria makes Bahamut a 2800... And yes, i may be an idiot for doing so.
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Mermails pull this guy out WAYYYYYY faster than atlanteans..... (known from experience :P)

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[quote name='HiveNet' timestamp='1343134343' post='5987381']
Seeing as WATER seems to be what Konami are pushing, this thing is going to get an awful lot of support fairly quickly i would say. Still, its a gem knight pearl, that can swarm beaters in a water deck. Whats not to love?
[/quote]Konami is done pushing WATER. That was only because of Abyss Rising. Just like they were "pushing EARTH" in Return of the Duelist.

As far as what's not to love... does Fiendish Chain ring a bell?

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[quote name='Agro' timestamp='1343136192' post='5987433']
Konami is done pushing WATER. That was only because of Abyss Rising. Just like they were "pushing EARTH" in Return of the Duelist.

As far as what's not to love... does Fiendish Chain ring a bell?
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What do u mean, they pushed earth and now water. Abyss rising is AFTER return of the duelist o.0

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[quote name='Kvn523' timestamp='1343136356' post='5987439']
What do u mean, they pushed earth and now water. Abyss rising is AFTER return of the duelist o.0
[/quote]And Abyss Rising is already out in Japan. That means that they're done printing cards for it. SINCE THEY RELEASED IT ALREADY.

Meaning they're on to the next set, which will probably make them "push" FIRE.

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[quote name='Agro' timestamp='1343136489' post='5987444']
And Abyss Rising is already out in Japan. That means that they're done printing cards for it. SINCE THEY RELEASED IT ALREADY.

Meaning they're on to the next set, which will probably make them "push" FIRE.
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I know that they're out in Japan, you implied that Ret the DUel was after Abyss and i found that to be odd o.0 Anyways, yeh they could be pushing each Attribute (PLZ NO LIGHT AND DARK, PLEASE!)

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[quote name='HiveNet' timestamp='1343137297' post='5987460']
LIGHT and DARK shouldn't, becuase they are generally the focus of each booster anyway. There is almost always some big DARK thing, or LIGHT thing to counter the DARK. Mind you, they have been pushing water based types for a while, Banish Fish, all the new fish support. And so on, so on.
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Yes i realize that they been pushing WATER for a while, it's just now that it's WATER and not "Fish/Sea Serpent/Aqua"

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Why would I summon this instead of keeping the 2 monsters? Well, because I would get those monsters mostly with Coelacanth, who negates the effects of those monsters and they cannot attack.
This can be useful if you want to have all those Xyz related cards, like Xyz Territory, Xyz Unit or Overlay Regenerate.

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