Nghtwing Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 [quote name='HiveNet' timestamp='1345311246' post='6010146'] [b]Duel Maste-Shot repteadly.[/b] [i]What??[/i] They look pretty cool man. I feel sad now that I'm the only lazy one here. [/quote] I thought that I could make an Archetype focused on destroying the opponent but not only suitable to an specific archetype Deck, but to a whole Deck of Machines as an Machine support... At first I thought on Ancient Gear or Future Gears BUT I found the idea nosense hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xi-3 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 How did you get the symbol for clubs to appear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nghtwing Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 The cards aren't from YCM :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 [quote name='Nghtwing' timestamp='1345313916' post='6010174'] [quote name='HiveNet' timestamp='1345311246' post='6010146'] [b]Duel Maste-Shot repteadly.[/b][i]What??[/i] [/quote][/quote] He's bacon-fighting himself. Well, this ends at noon. Everyone in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I'm long past noon. and yes, my card singular is in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nghtwing Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 My cards are in too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xi-3 Posted August 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Oh, Alpha is HiveNet. Okay then. Apologies for the delay. All entries and submissions are locked. Next up: judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Yes, I changed the name. And we must await Judgement... Good luck to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nghtwing Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Good Luck to you guys too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xi-3 Posted August 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 [spoiler=newhat's Entry][b]Dust Devil Blimp[/b] [b]1. Name & Picture:[/b] The name and picture definitely match. Since it doesn't have a specific unit name, it's on the generic side, though. Looking at it what I'm wondering most is: how is it flying with such a huge gun on it? [24/25] [b]2. Balance:[/b] I'm honestly not sure what it's supposed to do, especially since you give control of it to your opponent. Does it get more powerful for every summon done? Does the boost drop when the chain ends? Too many questions. This field is dropped from the judging criteria for this unit. Just as well, given I have never seen a Tier-1 monster with such a high ATK-DEF combination that is also an effect monster. [b]3. Cognizance:[/b] As above, I have many questions about what this card is supposed to do, because the way you phrased the Lore indicates that whenever a monster is summoned the effect is activated, yet you have it in brackets that the ATK boost is only part of the Chain. Is it also supposed to reach Level 10? Finally, since the opponent controls the card, couldn't s/he just tribute it? Because I don't know up from down when this card is concerned the score is going to drop. [5/25] [b]4. Reflection Accuracy:[/b] Since it's a blimp it does not have high DEF, but its ATK is pretty high. I don't understand what the effect is reflecting (or even exactly what it is). Being a blimp, I think it should have a major weakness by threat of being popped. I don't really know where that comes in, though. [10/25] [Total: 39/75] Bodysnatcher Blimp [b]1. Name/Pic:[/b] 'Bodysnatcher?' And it's a blimp? It looks like it could poke itself out of the sky. I raise my eyebrow to you, my good man. It is hard to tell that it is supposed to be a 'blimp' without the name. Are you sure we're not looking at a metal-hull alien vessel? [10/25] [b]2. Balance:[/b] It's a Level-10, but has low stats for its level. Was this to balance its effect? Because you made it annoyingly easy to Special Summon without much downside to yourself: just use your opponent's monsters. I guess the effect is supposed to reflect the 'Bodysnatcher' part of the name? But after summoning it becomes a Beatstick that's not particularly powerful: say hello to my Blue-Eyes friend! [10/25] [b]3. Cognizance:[/b] Unlike the first one, I understood this one. Unfortunately you don't say to where in the Deck to return monster cards. [20/25] [b]4. Reflection:[/b] It abducts other monsters, perhaps including your own, to be on the field in the first place (I smell paradox). Where does it put the monsters it abducts? Somewhere in the Deck. Maybe it should banish them until it gets removed from the field instead. [15/25]. [Total: 60/100] Hopeless Murk Blimp [b]1. Name/Pic:[/b] Certainly looks murky, or foggy. Again, descriptive but not specific. I also wonder why 'Hopeless.' [23/25] [b]2. Balance:[/b] The stats seem good for a Level 2. I just don't understand why it can return to the hand all cards that have been targeted by an effect. All of them? By any effect at all? If memory serves, Giant Trunade is on the Forbidden List because it does a similar thing, and this happens when "Hopeless Murk Blimp" is removed from the field for any reason? Yikes! [10/25] [b]3. Cognizance:[/b] I [i]think[/i] I understand the Lore. I could be mistaken. [20/25] [b]4. Reflection:[/b] A bit murky. Does it use a smokescreen? And how does it due the field removal thing anyway? [10/25] [Total: 63/100] [b]Comments:[/b] You can work on getting your text specific enough on all effects that things can only be misunderstood with a great effort. I am also generally uncomfortable with the effects, thinking of them as being a bit too much. It's pretty clear that you're trying to clear away your opponent's field, yet I feel you're going a little overboard. [b]Overall score:[/b] 58.3% [/spoiler] [spoiler=Barthandelus Alpha (HiveNet)'s Entry] [b]1. Name/Pic:[/b] I think you meant "Submersible," not "Submersile," which isn't a word. I also have trouble telling with the picture if it's small enough to be considered a 'fighter' rather than a medium-scale capital-style ship. I generally think of the Kraken as being a large legendary creature of the deep, although not as large as Leviathan or Behemoth. It looks pretty big to me. What I like is the matching of "Submersible" and "Kraken," because it gives the sub the Kraken's ferocity and fury. [15/25] [b]2. Balance:[/b] You may have given your monster too little ATK, but it is well within range for a Tier-1 monster with an effect anyway. While I do not quite understand the sequence of its effects because it has so many of them, I appreciate that you've specified that they can only be activated under certain conditions. I will talk about what I did and did not understand next. [20/25]. [b]3. Cognizance:[/b] Okay, the first effect can only be used during your 1st Main Phase, and when Kraken is being equipped to another monster, such as one of your opponent's monsters. When and how does it get equipped in the first place? This is where you could swap this effect for the one that says to equip Kraken if it would be destroyed by battle. I also have a question regarding the attack that your opponent would have declared to activate this effect: the effect itself implies, but does not state, that Kraken's destruction is negated. Is it? What about the damage to your Life Points? Also, how does Kraken manage to inhibit the opposing monster's stats after it has been unequipped? This implies Kraken is large enough to do structural damage, and therefore not in a fightercraft's size class. Effects being in the correct order is just as important as the things you need to specify that happen. [10/25] [b]4. Reflection:[/b] As I said, I'm not sure what you're reflecting due to the size issue. I will not disqualify you on it, because of the effort you went to. Also, I believe you are trying to reflect the Kraken's ferocity as named. If it wasn't a Machine-type I wouldn't even know if it was a unit to be piloted. [15/25]. [b]Overall Score:[/b] 60%[/spoiler] [spoiler=Nghtwing's Entry] Safe Sky Shooter [b]1. Name/Pic:[/b] A very interesting design that, unfortunately, makes me wonder what it does, meaning that's not clear. It looks like it could be a drone, not a fighter, and I'm amazed it even flies. [20/25] [b]2. Balance:[/b] I have seen Tier-1 and Tier-2 monsters with high DEF like this, and what's more the 0 ATK makes it highly vulnerable, perhaps too much so. I just wonder what's up with the effect: it can be summoned if you do not control any monsters (please fix the 'no monsters' in your text, as it is not correct grammar), and it can reveal Spells and Traps without activating their effects -- more, it can destroy Traps. The Spells get reset -- which makes me wonder how it does it to all of them. Maybe just choose 1 card per turn instead, especially since it's a low-level monster. [10/25] [b]3. Cognizance:[/b] The only think on which I can fault you is the poor grammer (no monsters, no Monster Card). Everything else looks perfect, and I can still understand it. I even know the point of being able to banish like-named cards. [23/25] [b]4. Reflection:[/b] Here the only think I have against you is that the craft looks and acts like a drone. Is it one? [20/25][Total score: 73] Plasma Shooter [b]1. Name/Pic:[/b] How do these things fly? As a sidenote, what's the point of Gemini monsters? [20/25] [b]2. Balance:[/b] Its stats are realistic for a Level 3. My problem is that the effect allows you to banish all the monsters in your opponent's Graveyard (as long as they aren't Machines) every turn -- and all to get one Club Monster. I think you should make it so you can only banish your own monsters to do this, because while your opponent may have cards to recover his or her monsters, it would be difficult to get all of them back. This is a good effect for decks requiring cards in the Graveyard, but I still think it's overpowered. [15/25] [b]3. Cognizance:[/b] I wonder if you're supposed to capitalize 'Banished' in that last sentence. It tripped me up a bit. [24/25] [b]4. Reflection:[/b] I can't tell if it's a drone or a fighter either.[20/25] [Total score: 79] Berserk Shooter [b]1. Name/Pic:[/b] It looks like a floating fortress rather than a fighter. Holy crap! What's a Spirit monster, by the way?[10/25]. [b]2. Balance:[/b] I appluad your attempt to keep it powerful despite making its ATK and DEF the same. I question, however, how its DEF is so high. I figure that like any large target it might have trouble with smaller attacks, like fightercraft. Also, you're sacrficing a single specific type of Level 5 monster to destroy all face-up monsters on the field... okay, misunderstadning question. I'll save it for the next criterium. I do like that you made it so it can't use its effect and attack on the same turn. [20/25] [b]3. Cognizance:[/b] About the above point, does it destroy all face-up monsters regardless of Level or stats, even high-tier ones? What about your own monsters, including this one? Considering it cannot be Special Summoned that could be a pain in the butt. [20/25] [b]4. Reflection:[/b] Decidedly not a fightercraft, being too big and fortress-like. I will disregard it in your scoring, along with this field for the card itself. You could save this card for contests that ask for medium- and large-scale capital ships and support. [b]Comments:[/b] I have so many questions, and indeed the most important one is "are these really fightercraft, or are they drones / oversized vessels that couldn't dogfight out of a paper bag?" They are good efforts, but I don't think they are really what I asked for. That's too bad, since you have some good beginnnings here. If only this was not a fightercraft contest, right? [b]Total Score:[/b] 76[/spoiler] [spoiler=Rankings] 1. Nghtwing - 76% - best understood cards 2. Alpha (HiveNet) - 60% - somewhat misunderstood and off-scale 3. newhat - 58.3% - Blimps tend to be easily popped, and so do our understanding of the terms. [/spoiler] Congratulations to all three of your for participating. EDIT: I have awarded you your points. I think I shall take a break from Contests for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Well done Night man. Congrats Damn. i forgot to add before damage calculation to it. Oh well. And the damaging attack and defence stats was a way of representing its given the main fleet time to bring there main firepower to bear on the ship. Probably could have gone with increasing my monsters attack instead. Still, thanks for hosting a great contest man. It was fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Bahahaha. OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nghtwing Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Thanks Hive, Thanks Xi-3!! By the way, Xi-3, you can PM me and we'll talk more about those cards and your questions Thank you, all you guys It was a great time making the cards and hoping the results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xi-3 Posted August 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 We can also talk about them here. That's what the 'feedback' is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Sure. [spoiler="Reply"] [quote&name="Xi-3"] [b]Dust Devil Blimp[/b] [b]1. Name & Picture:[/b] The name and picture definitely match. Since it doesn't have a specific unit name, it's on the generic side, though. Looking at it what I'm wondering most is: how is it flying with such a huge gun on it? [24/25] [b]2. Balance:[/b] I'm honestly not sure what it's supposed to do, especially since you give control of it to your opponent. Does it get more powerful for every summon done? Does the boost drop when the chain ends? Too many questions. This field is dropped from the judging criteria for this unit. Just as well, given I have never seen a Tier-1 monster with such a high ATK-DEF combination that is also an effect monster.[ [b]3. Cognizance:[/b] ...since the opponent controls the card, couldn't s/he just tribute it? [/quote] Define "Tier-1". Also, I generally write in New Card Grammar. The phrase "during the chain" indicates a Continuous effect. It applies instead of activating, so if I used Monster Reborn and you responded with Call of the Haunted, you'd Summon a monster and control of DDB would switch, then I'd Summon a monster and control of DDB would switch again. The boosts are permanent. I could have simply written "This is a Continuous effect.", but I figured that would be unrealistic. Indeed. It's a designed weakness, although single-Tribute monsters are not used in many popular Decks. [quote&name="Xi-3"][b]4. Reflection Accuracy:[/b] Since it's a blimp it does not have high DEF, but its ATK is pretty high. I don't understand what the effect is reflecting (or even exactly what it is). Being a blimp, I think it should have a major weakness by threat of being popped. I don't really know where that comes in, though. [10/25] [Total: 39/75][/quote] There's nothing in the flavor to indicate it, but the idea is that the blimp swells over time, and I imagined size to be proportional to ATK. At a certain size the force of its explosion is big enough to be lethal. [quote&name="Xi-3"] Bodysnatcher Blimp [b]1. Name/Pic:[/b] 'Bodysnatcher?' And it's a blimp? It looks like it could poke itself out of the sky. I raise my eyebrow to you, my good man. It is hard to tell that it is supposed to be a 'blimp' without the name. Are you sure we're not looking at a metal-hull alien vessel? [10/25][/quote] There are stretch marks in the stitching, but I guess that could exist in a metal object too. The image is supposed to be absurd. [quote&name="Xi-3"][b]2. Balance:[/b] It's a Level-10, but has low stats for its level. Was this to balance its effect? Because you made it annoyingly easy to Special Summon without much downside to yourself: just use your opponent's monsters. I guess the effect is supposed to reflect the 'Bodysnatcher' part of the name? But after summoning it becomes a Beatstick that's not particularly powerful: say hello to my Blue-Eyes friend! [10/25][/quote] It has more ATK than Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon, which is Level 10, and it can return enemy monsters to the Deck to Special Summon itself for free. It's already crazy powerful... [quote&name="Xi-3"] [b]3. Cognizance:[/b] Unlike the first one, I understood this one. Unfortunately you don't say to where in the Deck to return monster cards. [20/25][/quote] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gladiator_Beast_Laquari"]Any[/url][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gladiator_Beast_Torax"] card written this way[/url] shuffles the returned cards into the Deck, but since that is not the convention of New Card Grammar I accept this. [quote&name="Xi-3"] [b]4. Reflection:[/b] It abducts other monsters, perhaps including your own, to be on the field in the first place (I smell paradox). Where does it put the monsters it abducts? Somewhere in the Deck. Maybe it should banish them until it gets removed from the field instead. [15/25]. [Total: 60/100][/quote] I guess it drags them to a mothership, though there's no indication. The fact that there are three in the image suggest that they're not independently operated. [quote&name="Xi-3"] Hopeless Murk Blimp [b]...2. Balance:[/b] The stats seem good for a Level 2. I just don't understand why it can return to the hand all cards that have been targeted by an effect. All of them? By any effect at all? If memory serves, Giant Trunade is on the Forbidden List because it does a similar thing, and this happens when "Hopeless Murk Blimp" is removed from the field for any reason? Yikes! [10/25][/quote] Not every card on the field will be targeted by an effect. The most common effect to target Spells and Traps is Mystical Space Typhoon, which destroys them anyways. Wiping a field with this would be very hard. [quote&name="Xi-3"] [b]3. Cognizance:[/b] I [i]think[/i] I understand the Lore. I could be mistaken. [20/25][/quote] You did... [quote&name="Xi-3"] [b]4. Reflection:[/b] A bit murky. Does it use a smokescreen? And how does it due the field removal thing anyway? [10/25] [Total: 63/100][/quote] No idea. [quote&name="Xi-3"] [b]Comments:[/b] You can work on getting your text specific enough on all effects that things can only be misunderstood with a great effort. I am also generally uncomfortable with the effects, thinking of them as being a bit too much. It's pretty clear that you're trying to clear away your opponent's field, yet I feel you're going a little overboard.[/quote] More or less. I think the only powerful one is Bodysnatcher, but take it as you will.[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nghtwing Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Ok then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xi-3 Posted August 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 [spoiler=Reply to newhat]]I call Level 1-4 monsters Tier-1 cards, because they do not require tributes to summon. Levels 5-6 are Tier-2, and so on. I'm surprised more people don't use similar catch-all terms. So DDB doesn't just switch control to your opponent, it also switches back. That makes a little more sense, I guess, although I couldn't guess at the 'why' or 'how' of it. It is an interesting effect, though, considering it gives control to your opponent for half the summons. I'm getting into the habit of not assuming what's not written on the YGO cards, and besides that I've not seen a TCG card with that kind of effect. I always picture someone else asking "and then what happens," which is why I go to the trouble of specifying whether a card is returned to the top or bottom of the Deck, or shuffled. Just to be sure. But you can do your cards the way you like, and you're probably more aware of the card grammar than I am. But I had so many questions precisely because it was not clear to me. I think that was the biggest issue all around. Live and learn.[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 So answers to what you asked of mine: Submersible was the intention. I always need to remember to double check my spelling. Equiping was intedning to happen before damage calculation, but I forgot the word that. The attack is on the low side becuase its intended to be used wtih other things, and not as a stand alone monster. Order on thw wording was something i was unsure about, so I put it in the way I assumed it would go. And the making the opponents card weaker represents that not only has it breached the hull, letting water in so sinking its slowly, but its also damaging the rudder, the engines, and any external systems. All of that damage leaves the opponents vessil imobile and easy to bring firepower to bear on it. Do you think boosting other monsters i control would be a better effect for it to represent that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xi-3 Posted August 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Probably not, although the effect seems to assume your opponent's monsters are also submersibles. What happens if they're, for example, warriors. Or sea serpents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Well, they it takes off armour platings, or just tears apart there internal organs so they can't fight as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xi-3 Posted September 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 You changed your name again. Anyway, this thread is clearly done. Please Lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoVeracruse Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Well damn, sorry I missed one of your competitions Xi-3, hope i catch the next one in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 This contest was marked as ended and has been automatically moved to Finished Contests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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