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Hear me out before calling me a noob or saying my deck sucks. It has qualities of noob and suck. But for lack of cards physcically, I couldn't assemble the deck i had in mind. For example I lack Asceticism of the Six Samurai comletely and I own only one Kagemusha. So, any help and suggestions on exactly what to fix would be highly appreciated.

[i]This is the deck I currently have, the final deck I want to build is below.[/i]

Monsters (17):
x1 Kagemusha (want 3)
x2 LSS Kageki
x3 LSS Kizan
x1 LSS Enishi
x2 SS Zanji
x2 Elder of the SS
x2 Grandmaster
x1 Great Shogun Shien
x1 Hand of the SS
x1 Spirit of the SS
x1 Shien's Squire (for lack of Kagemushas)

(some SS support spells are x3 only for lack of 3 ascetisms)
Spells (15):
x1 Gateway of the Six
x2 Smoke Signal
x3 Shien's Dojo
x3 SS United
x1 Cunning of the SS
x1 Warrior Returning Alive
x1 ROTA
x1 Monster Reborn
x1 MST
x1 Dark Hole

Traps ( 8 ):
x2 Double Edged Sword Technique
x3 Musakani Magatama (3 only for lack of solemn trio, would run 1 regardless)
x1 Six Style - Dual Weild
x1 Compulsory Evacuation Device
x1 Fiendish Chain

Extra Deck (7):
x3 Shadow of the Six Samurai - Shien
x1 Number 39 - Utopia
x1 Colossal Fighter
x1 Number 17 - Leviathan Dragon
x1 Legendary Six Samurai - Shi En

Extra Deck is lacking a lot, and no side deck as of yet. Any suggestions for deck, extra, and side would be very helpful.

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Here's what I'm running for six sams currently.

18
1 Grandmaster
2 Shogun
3 Kazin
3 Elder
3 Kageki
3 Kagemusha
3 Effect Veiler

15
3 United
3 MST
2 Dojo
2 Smoke Signal
1 Reborn
1 Dark Hole
1 Heavy Storm
1 RotA
1 Gateway

7
3 Solemns
2 Torrential Tribute
2 Magatama

15
1 Shi-En
1 Catastor
1 Brio
2 Gaia Knight
2 Black Rose
2 Stardust
1 Colossal
1 Shadow
1 Utopia
2 #17
1 C39

This just gives you an idea of what a cleaned-up deck might look like.

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This is the deck I have in mind:

[b]Main Deck (43)[/b]

[u]Monsters (18)[/u]

3- Kagemush of the Six Samurai
2- Legendary Six Samurai - Kageki
3- Legendary Six Samurai - Kizan
1- Legendary Six Samurai - Enishi
1- The Six Samurai - Zanji
2- Elder of the Six Samurai
2- Grandmaster of the Six Samurai
1- Great Shogun Shien
1- Hand of the Six Samurai
2- Effect Veiler

[u]Spells (17)[/u]

3- Asceticism of the Six Samurai
3- Six Samurai United
2- Shien's Smoke Signal
2- Shien's Dojo
2- Mystical Space Typhoon
1- Gateway of the Six
1- Reinforcement of the Army
1- Monster Reborn
1- Drak Hole
1- Heavy Storm

[u]Traps (8)[/u]

2- Solemn Warning
1- Solemn Judgment
1- Double-Edged Sword Technique
2- Musakani Magatama
2- Fiendish Chain / Bottomless Trap Hole

[u]Extra Deck (15)[/u]

1- Ally of Justice Catastor
1- Shadow of the Six Samurai – Shien
1- Legendary Six Samurai – Shi En
1- Number 17: Leviathan Dragon
1- Colossal Fighter
1- Number 39: Utopia
1- Mist Wurm
1- Stardust Dragon
1- Driven Daredevil
1- Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1- Ancient Fairy Dragon
1- M-X-Saber Invoker
1- Leviair the Sea Dragon
1- Steelswarm Roach
1- Scarred Warrior

As of now, no side deck. Any suggestions are welcome.

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This is what i'm currently running, works pretty well:
Monsters 15:
1 Legendary Shogun Shien
3 Legendary Samurai Kageki
2 Kagemusha of the Six Samurai
2 Legendary Six Samurai Enishi
3 Legendary Six Samurai Kizan
1 Six Samurai Zanji
3 Elder of the Six Samurai

Spell 18:
1 Reinforcement of the Army
2 Shien Smoke Signal.
3 Mystical Space typhoon.
1 Dark Hole
1 Heavy Storm
1 Monster reborn.
3 Six Samurai United.
2 Shien’s Dojo.
1 Gateway of the Six Samurai
3 Asceticism of the Six Samurai

Traps 8:
2 Solemn Warning
1 Solemn Judgement
2 Torrential Tribute.
1 Musakani Magatama
2 Fiendish Chain

Extra Deck ??:
2 Blade Armour Ninja.
1 Number 39 Utopia
1 Legendary Six Samurai Shi en
1 Heroic Champion Excalibur
1 M-X-Saber Invoker
2 Colossal Fighter.
2 Gem Knight Peal.
2 Leviathan Dragon
1 Naturia Beast
1 Naturia Barkion.
1 Brionac

Side ??
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Effect Vieler
1 Book of the Moon
2 Rivalry of Warlords.
2 Royal Decree.
2 Macro Cosmos
2 Solidarity.

You should definately run the Naturia pair, they help when you can't run the Shi En-Shogun lock. Extra deck is fair game since i think i've only ever pulled out half of these. And Blade Armour Ninja, becuase its a 2200 double attacker, that is easy as anything to pull out in Sams. Shadow of the Six Samurai could probably be dropped for it, since its a bit situational, and i would rather have Blade, Utopia or Pearl as a rank 4.

Two Enishi i run instead of hand, since be able to bounce lets you work around Anti destruction, and for XYZ, if played on the right ones costs a lot of cards to your opponent. That, and it becomes a 2200 fairly quickly. I also prefer runnin Fiendish Chain over effect Vieler, becuase Chain can double up as an attack negator, doesn't clog up the hand, and means you can side Solidarity for a big boost.

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This is Six Samurai-

16
3 Kizan
3 Elder
3 Kagemusha
2 Grandmaster
2 Kageki
3 Veiler

14
3 United
3 MST
2 Smoke Signal
1 RotA
1 Gateway
1 Reborn
1 Dark Hole
1 Storm
1 Mind Control

2 Warning
2 TT
2 Bottomless
2 Safe Zone
1 Judgment
1 Magatama

1 Shien
1 Naturia Beast
1 Naturia Barkion
1 Blade Armour Ninja
1 Utopia
1 Maestroke
1 Pearl
1 Black Rose
1 Gaia Knight
1 Brionac
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Stardust
1 Zenmaines
1 Leviathan
1 Catastor

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[quote name='Kabasaurus' timestamp='1343055385' post='5986316']
This is Six Samurai-

16
3 Kizan
3 Elder
3 Kagemusha
2 Grandmaster
2 Kageki
3 Veiler

14
3 United
3 MST
2 Smoke Signal
1 RotA
1 Gateway
1 Reborn
1 Dark Hole
1 Storm
1 Mind Control

2 Warning
2 TT
2 Bottomless
2 Safe Zone
1 Judgment
1 Magatama

1 Shien
1 Naturia Beast
1 Naturia Barkion
1 Blade Armour Ninja
1 Utopia
1 Maestroke
1 Pearl
1 Black Rose
1 Gaia Knight
1 Brionac
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Stardust
1 Zenmaines
1 Leviathan
1 Catastor
[/quote]

Have none of you heard of ascentism?
Or dojo ?

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run 3 acentism and 2 dojo, 3 united, gate way, 2 smoke, rota, 2 double edge, and some staples, eg solemns mirror storm etc

Monsters: 3 kizan, 3 kagamusha, 3 elder, 1 zanji, 1 grandmaster, 1/2 kageki, 1 hand, and 2 veiler (3 is too cloggy in the deck)

[quote name='Kabasaurus' timestamp='1343151084' post='5987724']


Oops. Dojo is bad but you need 3 Ascetism, cut MSTs for them.
[/quote]

wtf!!!

Dojo is amazing

Also why is everyone playing shogun?
I mean come on

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[quote name='vipermatt96' timestamp='1343203491' post='5988393']
run 3 acentism and 2 dojo, 3 united, gate way, 2 smoke, rota, 2 double edge, and some staples, eg solemns mirror storm etc

Monsters: 3 kizan, 3 kagamusha, 3 elder, 1 zanji, 1 grandmaster, 1/2 kageki, 1 hand, and 2 veiler (3 is too cloggy in the deck)



wtf!!!

Dojo is amazing

Also why is everyone playing shogun?
I mean come on
[/quote]

Shogun and Shi en together keep your opponent from using any spells and traps, and you can still run over Laggia with either of them. Top that off, with Shogun being very easy to summon, i think he has his uses, seeing as then roughly half your opponents deck is a dead draw. I

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[quote name='HiveNet' timestamp='1343220277' post='5988503']
Shogun and Shi en together keep your opponent from using any spells and traps
[/quote]
[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Great_Shogun_Shien"]http://yugioh.wikia....at_Shogun_Shien[/url]

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[quote name='vipermatt96' timestamp='1343228358' post='5988605']
No he doesn't he's a piece of s*** in samurais. And also lllllooooolllll at what u thought.
[/quote]

Everyone is entitiled to there own opinions. You might think he's bad, i think he's good. We've both given our advice, and the person who's building a deck can decide which he prefers. And ok, i made a mistake. Everyone will make them, everyone will have made some,, and I've learnt from it now. Just means i've gotten better at the game, and i owe some people an apolgy for my mistake. It's not a big deal for me, don't know why it seems to be for you.

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[quote name='HiveNet' timestamp='1343228768' post='5988608']
Everyone is entitiled to there own opinions. You might think he's bad, i think he's good.
[/quote]

Unfortunately the vast majority of good Yugioh players, and therefore also science, say he's bad.

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[quote name='HiveNet' timestamp='1343250477' post='5988891']
Science is full of differing opinions. And my deck, not matter how much it may suck, will always have a place for the dictator of the Samurai.
[/quote]

Suit yourself.

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