Official One Piece Anime & Manga Discussion Thread

[Shradow]

I'm wondering if she's as nice as she seems or if she'll have a crazy jabroni side.

[Fusion X. Denver]

I'm wondering if she's as nice as she seems or if she'll have a crazy jabroni side.

Maybe, I wouldn't be against that, but I'm leaning towards no. That one time we saw her acting morose when Charlotte was eating someone made me think she's not on great terms with her mom. Though I suppose that doesn't negate her being crazy too.

But mainly I'd rather her be super nice so there's a small case built for Sanji going through with marrying her. Obviously it won't go down that way, but I'd rather Oda not make it a black/white, clear-cut bad idea that just cannot happen.

[Shradow]

[spoiler=Chapter 828]Sanji did bros before hoes, I can't believe it. And the sibling who ran away in search of a groom is almost certainly Lola, people have been thinking she's related to Big Mom forever.

 

And so we finally see a bit of Ichiji and Niji. At least, I'm assuming that's their names, since we've got Rei(0)ju, San(3)ji and Yon(4)ji.

 

[Fusion X. Denver]

I like Pudding. Her demeanor's really heartwarming and I'd like to see some scenes with her and Sanji before this arc's over.

 

I'm curious if any of the Germas will be fighting the Straw Hats. Zoro vs Ichiji would probably be cool.

[Shradow]

Completely off-topic, but I just saw the greatest One Piece joke ever regarding Zoro and Tashigi.

 

"We've got a pirate, a marine, and a ship."

 

funk me, that's good.

 

EDIT: I can't believe I'm saying this, but thank god for some filler. Dressrosa's pacing was atrocious, we need this.

[Fusion X. Denver]

EDIT: I can't believe I'm saying this, but thank god for some filler. Dressrosa's pacing was atrocious, we need this.

I honestly wouldn't mind another filler arc after this one either. But I think they probably are going to stick to their chapter an episode pacing; it didn't help that Dressrosa itself was such a long arc on its own.

 

I hope in the far-off future that they'll be able to condense these episodes down successfully into a One Piece Kai like they did DBZ.

[Shradow]

They ended up with less than a chapter per episode as things went along, someone counted them out and the Dressrosa arc had about a couple dozen more episodes than there were manga chapters.

[Fusion X. Denver]

They ended up with less than a chapter per episode as things went along, someone counted them out and the Dressrosa arc had about a couple dozen more episodes than there were manga chapters.

Yuck

I was really bugged that last episode spent the entire time on the civilians running under the debris. That should've only been 10 minutes max.

I'm betting next episode will only just end on the alliance being forged rather than at the halfway mark like it should. 

 

On a brighter note, I'm happy Bartolomeo will be in the filler arc. He always adds to the shenanigans.

[Shradow]

Every episode should've cut several minutes of citizens running, it was ridiculous.

 

I started realizing how bad things were getting right near the beginning of the arc, where Fujitora (who was still unknown at the time) was walking into the bar to gamble and walked past Zoro as ominous music played. Him simply walking down the street into the building took funking forever.

[Fusion X. Denver]

It's a little late now, but I'd rather One Piece adopt the approach of other shonens nowadays by doing arcs in seasons and taking breaks until releasing the next one. It's working for Haikyu, Food Wars, AssClass, probably MHA, and other Shonen Jump titles.

[Shradow]

The problem with that is how long the series is (though things are mostly caught up by this point), combined with the fact Toei probably doesn't want to do that so they can keep making money, otherwise they probably would have by now.

[Darj]

Just want to say that I'm truly enjoying the latest manga chapters, since chapter 826

[spoiler=]I find really cool that Sanji comes from such influential family, and yet without a kingdom.

The Germa 66 looks really cool, with their background of a shady organization taking mercenary jobs and armed with technology.

Pudding is such a lovely character and she quickly made it into my list of characters I wish would join the Straw Hats, which so far includes Perona and Bellamy. Personally, and I know it would go against the whole plot of the arc, but I badly want she and Sanji get married, or otherwise end up together. But can we really expect such plot twist from Oda?

 

 

[Shradow]

[spoiler=Chapter 829]Holy sheet, Big Mom can steal someone's life span? That Life or Treat thing is crazy, how do you fight that? And we finally see Jinbe again, and it looks like he might be ready to split off from Big Mom and join Luffy's crew soon! Wonder how things will turn out.

 

Poor Chopper and Carrot, they can't stop for sweets. :(

 

 

The color page for the new film looks really good, too. I have a tendency not to watch anime movie side stories, but

. Plus, more Rob Lucci.

[Fusion X. Denver]

That power of Big Mom's seems like overkill, but she is a Warlord, so what would you expect? Maybe it's a willpower thing to be able to resist her power, but it's probably not that easy.

She certainly is repugnant.

 

Pumped to see Jinbe again. I really want this guy to join the Straw Hats.

[Shradow]

So the anime finally finished the Dressrosa Arc and we'll be getting to the filler next week. It began January 19th, 2014 and ended June 19th, 2016. funking long time.

[Christian Exodia]

Just want to say that I'm truly enjoying the latest manga chapters, since chapter 826

[spoiler=]I find really cool that Sanji comes from such influential family, and yet without a kingdom.

The Germa 66 looks really cool, with their background of a shady organization taking mercenary jobs and armed with technology.

Pudding is such a lovely character and she quickly made it into my list of characters I wish would join the Straw Hats, which so far includes Perona and Bellamy. Personally, and I know it would go against the whole plot of the arc, but I badly want she and Sanji get married, or otherwise end up together. But can we really expect such plot twist from Oda?

 

 

I am ecstatic Oda went this way; if only to mess with the "Prince Sanji" background. All of the aspects of a Prince without a Kingdom.

 

The Germa 66 are really neat, too. I'm questioning if any of those shadows from the 'Underground' belong to those of the Germa 66, and if we will learn about each of the shadows we were given.

 

Pudding is lovely, but I don't think she will join the Straw Hats. If anything, I feel like she will end up in a Kaya sort of situation: A lovely girl whose beau's adoration is the sea and his crew as well.

 

They will most likely get married (or she will die and Sanji will go into Chaos Mode) later in the series, but not now.

[Shradow]

[spoiler=Chapter 830]Oh sheet, the reason no one has left Big Mom's crew alive is because she takes their lifespan and/or vital body parts. Guessing no one's been lucky enough to roll the 10, but I'm hoping Jinbe is!

 

[Fusion X. Denver]

[spoiler=So]

I'm hype on Jinbe being eager to join the Straw Hats. Now so long as he doesn't die first...

 

 

[Shradow]

[spoiler=Chapter 832]Holy sheet what a turn of events. Stuff's going down in the woods right now but I don't care about that anymore, Sanji's old man showed up and they're gonna fight?! Whaaaaat?! That's gonna be awesome.

 

Also, it's really cool that Sanji's family really does have a kingdom, but I love how it has to first come together like that. The giant snail ships are cool, too. Oda, you make such cool stuff all the time.

 

[Darj]

[spoiler=Thoughts on Chapter 833]

The plot took such a sudden, dark turn with this chapter. I first assumed Sanji leaving his family was more of a case of "a good heart among tyrants", but he was actually mistreated by his family; no wonder he resents them that much. And they still intent to use him as an scapegoat of sorts for political affairs. Also I was so displeased when her sister put those handcuffs on Sanji; I thought she was on his side and willing to support him in that mess, but that doesn't seem the case anymore.

 

I can't wait for the Straw Hats, and preferably Sanji himself, to put the Germa on their place and destroy their whole empire along their dreams of conquering North Blue again. I suspect the weaknesses of the Germa will be their over-reliance on their gear and loyal soldiers, so if the Straw Hats manage to take away those advantages from them, they may be left in a disadvantageous position.

I was actually thinking that if Sanji accepted his birthright for a Germa tech suit and human meatshields, in addition to his current skills and power, then I wouldn't be surprised if he could actually defeat his father on his own.

 

As a side note, something that caught my interest is that the 4 Vinsmoke sons may be practically quadruplets, since the chapter mentioned they were born on the same day. That, or the family is more complex and Jaiji has more than 1 wife, but I won't bother with further speculating about that.

 

[Shradow]

[spoiler=Chapter 833]I'm really enjoying this arc with the Vinsmokes, this part of Sanji's past was unexpected to say the least, and him fighting his father was pretty cool. Good to know the feeling about not considering each other as family members is mutual, though, Sanji won't have any qualms when its time for the Straw Hats to fight.

 

And yeah, his sister putting those cuffs on him really sucks, it surprised me.

 

[Shradow]

So this is a completely unrelated topic to the recent chapters, but it's an argument I've heard in the past and I want to hear others' opinions on it here. I don't remember if this has been brought up in the past or not, but if it has, whatever, we're doing it again.

 

Buggy vs Haki Slash

 

I'm of the belief that Buggy would be fine, even if cut with a sword imbued with Haki. Haki doesn't negate Devil Fruit powers, it merely allows you to bypass certain aspects (most commonly Luffy's resistance to blunt force due to being made of rubber). However, it's not like the Bara Bara no Mi's power is solely that it makes you immune to slash attacks, that's just an effect of the fruit granting the power to split and reassemble body parts. Unless Buggy was touching sea stone or being affected by Blackbeard's Yami Yami no Mi, after being cut by a Haki slash Buggy would still be able to reassemble no problem. As to the matter of getting hurt or not, Oda's stated that he never draws blood or guts or anything when Buggy splits because it'd be too gory given how severely and often his body splits. So whether there's Haki or not, Buggy is still getting cut (and there'd be blood either way if Oda so chose), just like Luffy getting punched with or without Haki still causes the attack to physically touch him, but Buggy's body works differently from Luffy's so even with Haki I think it just splits his body without actually injuring him. If he's getting cut (and potentially bleeds from it) normally without feeling pain, the same would apply with Haki.

 

It's sort of a direct counter thing. For example, even if Enel had Busoshoku Haki and could imbue his lightning attacks with it, his lighting attacks still wouldn't affect Luffy because it doesn't stop Luffy from being rubber and being nonconductive.

 

I also bring it up because I miss Buggy. We've barely seen him since the timeskip. :(

[Darj]

Hmm... I agree Buggy should be immune, so to speak, to slash attacks, including those imbued with Haki. As you said, it should be a matter of counter or superiority towards slash attacks, and one of the perks of that devil fruit power in particular. Besides, even if a Haki-imbued slash attack would connect, I guess Buggy can simply split himself on the spot and evade it; with enough training and skill he should be able to attain such level of reflex, even from flash-speed attacks. So I would say it he still has an advantage.

[Flame Dragon]

After falling behind again like a smart person I am back up to date. Lets hope I stay this way.

 

Anyway brief thoughts on the last 20 odd chapters.

-The Zou arc was great. The character interactions between the crew is some of the strongest stuff in the series. The way they all clearly love and respect each other is such a joy to watch. The Minks were also a great group. Happy we are keeping a few going forward.

-The Mink knowing where Raizo was totally caught me off guard. I thought he was just hiding out somewhere, but seeing that they knew for the whole time after everything they went through and how strongly they said they had no idea was beautiful.

-Momo being the prince was another nice twist. As was the source of the poneglyph. Interesting to see that you basically need someone who can read them if you want to make it to the end.

-REALY curious what Zunisha did to being forced to walk for all eternity. Also curious just who forced it.

I love how everything in the story is coming together. Honestly, the story has so many open ended things still and seeing how Oda ties everything together has been a work of art. From hinting at the Reverie during the Fishmen Island arc, the importance of the Samurai, bringing back Jimbei Oda is truly a talented writer.

-Speaking of the Reverie, curious when that will fall in place in the series. Oda was very careful not to give any in universe timing thanks to Vivi. My first guess is after the stuff with the Warlords. It is also my guess for when we'll get the bulk out of the Revolutionaries. Also betting that the final poneglyph is being held by the world government.

-Pudding and Carrot are too adorable.

-Not sure why your saying Pudding is the three eyed girl. Oda's range for women isn't hat great and we've already seen Chiffon looks a LOT like a certain other character. Like 99% they are different characters.

-Big Mom seems like a pretty interesting character and I'm really looking forward to getting more out of her.

-Sanji's family is a piece of work. Watching his dad very mercilessly kill one of his men to get an attack in on Sanji was something else. I'm also certain Sanji would be able to beat his father one vs. one since the only reason he didn't counter attack with his new move was because people got in the way.

 

 

As for the newest chapter

-Curious what happened to Jimbie. Odds are nothing series since he is going to join the crew seemingly at the end of this arc.

-Nice to see Pekoms. Bege saying he isn't cut out for this line of work suggests that whatever happened when he and Pedro were in Big Mom's territory is what caused him to join the crew.

-I love watching Caesar get trolled. Curious whats going to happen to him.

-REALLY want to know where the copies are coming from. Also what happened to the crew.

 

So this is a completely unrelated topic to the recent chapters, but it's an argument I've heard in the past and I want to hear others' opinions on it here. I don't remember if this has been brought up in the past or not, but if it has, whatever, we're doing it again.

 

Buggy vs Haki Slash

 

I'm of the belief that Buggy would be fine, even if cut with a sword imbued with Haki. Haki doesn't negate Devil Fruit powers, it merely allows you to bypass certain aspects (most commonly Luffy's resistance to blunt force due to being made of rubber). However, it's not like the Bara Bara no Mi's power is solely that it makes you immune to slash attacks, that's just an effect of the fruit granting the power to split and reassemble body parts. Unless Buggy was touching sea stone or being affected by Blackbeard's Yami Yami no Mi, after being cut by a Haki slash Buggy would still be able to reassemble no problem. As to the matter of getting hurt or not, Oda's stated that he never draws blood or guts or anything when Buggy splits because it'd be too gory given how severely and often his body splits. So whether there's Haki or not, Buggy is still getting cut (and there'd be blood either way if Oda so chose), just like Luffy getting punched with or without Haki still causes the attack to physically touch him, but Buggy's body works differently from Luffy's so even with Haki I think it just splits his body without actually injuring him. If he's getting cut (and potentially bleeds from it) normally without feeling pain, the same would apply with Haki.

 

It's sort of a direct counter thing. For example, even if Enel had Busoshoku Haki and could imbue his lightning attacks with it, his lighting attacks still wouldn't affect Luffy because it doesn't stop Luffy from being rubber and being nonconductive.

 

I also bring it up because I miss Buggy. We've barely seen him since the timeskip. :(

Pretty sure this has a simple answer.

[Shradow]

That bit with Hawkeye always gets brought up, and to this day people sill argue whether or not he was using Haki at that point, we don't actually know.