Shradow Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Plant shuriken, cool. Wonder if we'll get to see Ussop's full arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Why is it that every arc there is like 50 people who could potentially joint? Kyros, Violet, Rebecca, Momo and Foxfire. Anyways, well done, Ussop. You redeamed yourself. No more pretending to be someone else. Just being yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.B. strategist Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ok I did like how that was handled, actually. Well done Usopp. I wonder how much more Kyros flashback we're going to see? That opening part felt very rushed, but perhaps he'll dial down the pacing next chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I've been VERY hard on Usopp and him making an obvious return didn't him back to my good graces. Rather I've been thinking about it and I realized EVERYTHING has been in character for him. I mean, looking through the series, this is what I see Introduction: Fought for his villageBaratie Arc: Didn't fightArlong Arc: Almost ran away, inspired by crew to keep fighting. Also fighting for NamiWhiskey Peak: Didn't fightLittle Garden: Fought because he was inspired by the giantsDrum Island: Didn't FightAlabaster: Kept fighting because he was protect Luffy's name. Also fought to keep up Chopper's spiritSkypiea: Fought with Luffy and Sanji. Ran away to get the boatEnies Lobby: Fought with Zoro unsuccessfully. Was fighting for Robin.Thriller Bark: Fought Perona because she was afraid of him and only one that could fight her.Fishman Island: Fought with his crew Usopp has only had a couple of major battles and of those he fought for someone he really cared about. The Tontattas aren't something he really cares about so its no wonder he wants to run. It feels like that shouldn't be his character but nothing from the past would have caused this to not be the case. For the first time Usopp has actually stood his ground for someone outside of his group which is actually major. So yea, I've become ok with this. As for the chapter, agree that the calling for Usoland went on for to long, but the confession was really well done and the flashback is interesting. Sad that we won't get a chapter next week. Hopefully Oda is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I think something else is going on.What the Tontatta warriors were saying in page 9 seems to have made a reaction on Sugar at page 10.I wonder if that's gonna go somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Based Usopp showing the most character development as always. Is Trebol is a logia user though, right? Usopp either needs to find his weakness or develop Haki or something real quick. Also I am sensing that they going to have a crazy spike in bounties real quick after this arc is done, especially if Usopp really is going to be taking down Trebol and is helping take down Sugar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Gonna be honest, still a little disappointed by Usopp running away. We've seen this situation too many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Based Usopp showing the most character development as always. Is Trebol is a logia user though, right? Usopp either needs to find his weakness or develop Haki or something real quick. Also I am sensing that they going to have a crazy spike in bounties real quick after this arc is done, especially if Usopp really is going to be taking down Trebol and is helping take down Sugar. I think he is. Lucky for Usopp he has a range of weapons that can work on logia users. Although Kanjuro might end up taking him out. I think a bounty spike is bound to happen. This is their first big public showing since the time skip. Gonna be honest, still a little disappointed by Usopp running away. We've seen this situation too many times. As I said in my post on the subject, it is frustrating seeing this so often. But for the first time he came back not because the people in danger were close to him but because running is finally worse than dying fighting to good fight. I honestly hope from here on Usopp will still show fear, but will actually face it down, regardless of who he is fighting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Games Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 There's a theory called #SteakAndSalad (dont ask) which came up. It bascially says Usopp underwent character-regression because his memories of Robin, and those moments of character development associated those memories. I think I was actually more worked up going into this chapter than last week when I first read that chapter. Usopp owes the tontotta's an apology for nearly crushing their teenie tiny hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 There's a theory called #SteakAndSalad (dont ask) which came up. It bascially says Usopp underwent character-regression because his memories of Robin, and those moments of character development associated those memories. I think I was actually more worked up going into this chapter than last week when I first read that chapter. Usopp owes the tontotta's an apology for nearly crushing their teenie tiny hearts. That actually makes sense. And he instantly bolstered their teenie tiny hearts by becoming their real ultimate hero. I hope there's a bounty spike, and that Chopper actually gets a legit one this time, I'm sure he's still a bit bummed out by the 50 berry bounty. Besides Chopper, I imagine Franky might get a pretty big spike as well, since now he's got access to Dr. Vegapunk's tech, and I imagine the Marines won't be too happy about that. Plus, Franky just kicks ass in general:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXpFzmt_NUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTW (For The Wynn) Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I think we are forgetting the differences between the Usopp now and the Usopp pre time skip.Usopp in general is braver than before, but that is only because he was fighting enemies he knew he could defeat easily (Fake Strawhats), or because he knew their were people around to help him (Strawhats during the battle against the New Fishman Pirates). However, Usopp's ultimate goal is to actually be a brave man. It stands to reason that he isn't that brave yet, especially in the pirate graveyard that is the New World, up against the army of a Shichibukai.So, his journey is really about finding out what bravery is, which is why in the story he's a coward and fights kind of dirty.And, at the very least, he's no longer acting as Sogeking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I think we are forgetting the differences between the Usopp now and the Usopp pre time skip. Usopp in general is braver than before, but that is only because he was fighting enemies he knew he could defeat easily (Fake Strawhats), or because he knew their were people around to help him (Strawhats during the battle against the New Fishman Pirates). However, Usopp's ultimate goal is to actually be a brave man. It stands to reason that he isn't that brave yet, especially in the pirate graveyard that is the New World, up against the army of a Shichibukai. So, his journey is really about finding out what bravery is, which is why in the story he's a coward and fights kind of dirty. And, at the very least, he's no longer acting as Sogeking. This is a lot of the same conclusions I reached as well. Honestly, I view this as a major step towards his goal since, again, he isn't fighting because he really cares about the tontattas but because its just the right thing for him to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 There is a chance of them finally getting updated bounties after this arc considering there's an admiral here and the government is likely to notice. Also, I like how they aren't completely f***ed by the sheer presence of an admiral like pre-timeskip. They've gotten a lot stronger. Anyway, random bounty predictions with no basis whatsoever because it's fun: Luffy - 500M+ Zoro - 200M~Sanji - 150M~Usopp - 50-60M~Nami - 30-40M~Franky - 80M~Robin - 80-100M~ (Low change as bounty isn't power based at all)Brooke - 70M~ (Famous now)Chopper - 100 (For luls), higher otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTW (For The Wynn) Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 It occurred to me just a little bit ago that the end of this current arc brings the potential for Luffy to be made a Shichibukai, or at least for such an offer to be made. It seems kind of laughable that the Marines haven't at least made the offer yet after 2 Shichibukai were defeated, and the defeat of Doflamingo would be a lot harder to cover up than Crocodile (who was captured by the Marines or whatever that story was) and Moriah (who no one even knew was defeated since it was out at sea). I could also see someone like Akainu never giving Luffy an offer since he wants Luffy dead or imprisoned. But, just food for thought. Also, I think this arc will be the best one so far for seeing how strong Luffy is by giving him the chance to fight an enemy we know is powerful. The first two major enemies Luffy fought (Hordy and Caesar) were both kind of wild cards in terms of strength, Hordy because he took all those steroids and Caesar because his ability to get rid of oxygen was the only legit threat to Luffy imo.However, Doflamingo is obviously powerful, and will make for a great opponent and a great judge of Luffy's current ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 There is a chance of them finally getting updated bounties after this arc considering there's an admiral here and the government is likely to notice. Also, I like how they aren't completely f***ed by the sheer presence of an admiral like pre-timeskip. They've gotten a lot stronger. Anyway, random bounty predictions with no basis whatsoever because it's fun: Luffy - 500M+ Zoro - 200M~Sanji - 150M~Usopp - 50-60M~Nami - 30-40M~Franky - 80M~Robin - 80-100M~ (Low change as bounty isn't power based at all)Brooke - 70M~ (Famous now)Chopper - 100 (For luls), higher otherwiseI almost want to be a little bold and say Zoro and Sanji would go over 300 mil since I believe at the very least they are stronger than Luffy was 2 years ago (I know bounties aren't power levels...but still).But that'd be too huge a jump for Sanji and that's over doubling Zoro's, so I'll peg Zoro to be 250M and Sanji to be 175M~.Rest of those sound good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I almost want to be a little bold and say Zoro and Sanji would go over 300 mil since I believe at the very least they are stronger than Luffy was 2 years ago (I know bounties aren't power levels...but still).But that'd be too huge a jump for Sanji and that's over doubling Zoro's, so I'll peg Zoro to be 250M and Sanji to be 175M~.Rest of those sound good though.Definitely not 300m, only because bounties aren't at all based on power levels. Luffy's bounty is high because he's the captain and the face of rebellion after declaring war on the WG. Ace had a massive bounty but I'm pretty sure that was after they found out his lineage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 It really depends. Huge jumps on bounties can happen.As long as they are beating down someone with X bounty, they'll raise themselves to at least a bit over them.I don't really think Doflamingo would have someone under 100 in his crew at new world's.Even if some of them wouldn't have former bounties, the world government does have an idea of how strong they are, and how dangerous the ones to beat them down would have to be. I expect great jumps. On an unrelated note, I'll just leave here this fanart I found (or at least, I think it's fanart....): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I do hope Bartolomeo has something under that apron. If bounties were power levels, I'd put Zoro just under Luffy, but maybe not equal to him because of Luffy's Conqueror's Haki (unless Zoro has it too and we just don't know for sure yet, but it wouldn't surprise me if he did). I definitely think he really closed the gap between them during the timeskip, but how close they are to each other now I can't be certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Oh my God yes BartolomeoxHancock is now OTP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 I just thought of something. Is the area where the Colosseum losers dropped into connnected in any way to where the Straw Hats are fighting? If they weren't all turned into toys yet, I wonder if guys like Chinjao might be able to come and help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 I just thought of something. Is the area where the Colosseum losers dropped into connnected in any way to where the Straw Hats are fighting? If they weren't all turned into toys yet, I wonder if guys like Chinjao might be able to come and help. I'm pretty sure all of them have been turned into toys at this point. At this point the only people able to fight are Usopp and Kanjuro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Read a very convincing theory that Crocodile is in fact, Luffy's mother. Seems legit to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Read a very convincing theory that Crocodile is in fact, Luffy's mother. Seems legit to me. Side for the part where we've seen Croc as a little boy, sure why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Side for the part where we've seen Croc as a little boy, sure why not.I could honestly see this go in both directions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 I think he looks a lot more masculine then feminine, but thats just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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