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Can't forget Luffy originally claiming he wanted 10 people for his crew.

Oda really does plan these things out.

All I really want for the crew is one more girl alongside Jimbei.

 

 

That is part of my reason for wanting her to join the crew. Having another women in the crew would be nice. And yea, Oda had a fair number of the straw hats planned out when he started the series.

 

 

I'm skeptical. She did get stabbed in the heart, i know, but this is One Piece. I'm not convinced until I see a body.

 

 

 

I'd like for her to not be dead. She REALLY could have had an interesting fight with Nami.

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Vergo's dead for sure what with his farewell to Doflamingo. I'm more sad about him dying. Also, Zoro vs Monet only further confirms my thoughts about Zoro. The only proper way to describe him is, "Demon."

 

EDIT: A fighting tournament and Luffy is dressed up like Master Roshi, this is great.

 

I totally knew Luffy was going to fix that guy's head and he'd gain a new ally. What with guys like Duval, the Straw Hats have a tendency of things like that. Also, I kinda want to have a look back at the Logue Town arc to see if you can see Bartolomeo anywhere.

 

And Ian Sinclair as Brook for the dub? Sounds good to me, and we've already heard him as Itomimizu. He's got the laugh down perfectly.

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I always learn so many neat things from TvTropes. Ryuma, the zombie who possessed Brook's shadow in Thriller Bark, is the protagonist of Monsters, a one shot manga written by Oda back in '94. Of course, in it he slayed a dragon, which was mentioned in One Piece as part of his legacy, iirc.

 

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I always learn so many neat things from TvTropes. Ryuma, the zombie who possessed Brook's shadow in Thriller Bark, is the protagonist of Monsters, a one shot manga written by Oda back in '94. Of course, in it he slayed a dragon, which was mentioned in One Piece as part of his legacy, iirc.

 

SBS_Vol_47_11.jpg

 

 

Its because Oda is some kind of mad genius who can some how remember little stuff he did over a decade ago.

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Random thought just occurred to me, I honestly have no idea who would win in a fight between Garp and Whitebeard. I mean, they were both pretty much rivals to Roger himself.

Well, Whitebeard took down Akainu, an Admiral, whereas Garp's a Vice-Admiral.

It'd be a hell of a fight, but I'd still say Whitebeard hands down.

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Do we know how close Whitebeard ever came to beating Roger, if he was even close at all? We know he was the second strongest pirate behind Roger, but not by how much. Garp had to have been pretty much on equal footing with Roger since he said they'd nearly killed each other so many times. Garp may not be as strong now as he was when he fought against Roger, but neither is Whitebeard.

 

Also, while Whitebeard failed to kill Akainu after that giant can of whoop ass he opened on him, I'm almost positive that, had Sengoku not held him back, Garp would've killed Akainu.

 

As I see it:
Roger = Garp

Roger ≥ Whitebeard

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I find it nice that ranking the characters' strength in this manga is really hard to do. There's no concrete hyerarchy.

 

If I had to guess, I'd say Garp and Whitebeard would be on pretty equal footing.

Roger was at the end unanonimously considered "Pirate King" so Whitebeard went under him by default.

Garp did get situations where he seemed on equal footing, but he never was able to capture Roger.

I'd also say Garp also didn't capture Whitebeard. You could say he was focused on Roger, but he must have had a duty as officer as well, so it's not like he could ignore other pyrates.

 

That said, it's not something really set in stone. Luffy was under pretty much all his enemies during his first fight with each of them.

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Well, the Yonko are a balancing force in the New World, and the entire Navy + the Shichibukai equals about one Yonkou and his/her allies, so while Garp may be able to take a Yonkou in a 1-on-1 scenario, it's everyone else you gotta worry about. The Marines don't just ignore guys like Whitebeard, just that it would be too dangerous to fight them. Roger was an exception, of course, since he was the King of the Pirates.

 

Also, when the next episode of One Piece gets subbed later today, we'll get to see Zoro scare the bajeezus out of Monet but animated, yay.

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Well, the Yonkou are a balancing force in the New World, and the entire Navy + the Shichibukai equals about one Yonkou and his/her allies, so while Garp may be able to take a Yonkou in a 1-on-1 scenario, it's everyone else you gotta worry about. The Marines don't just ignore guys like Whitebeard, just that it would be too dangerous to fight them.

 

Also, when the next episode of One Piece gets subbed later today, we'll get to see Zoro scare the bajeezus out of Monet but animated, yay.

 

The World Government + the 7 Warlords = the 4 Empires.

 

Which is why the WG is always eager to fill the 7 seats.

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I highly doubt they equal all 4. It took all their might to beat just Whitebeard's army, and from the start the battle could've gone either way. The second Shanks showed up, that ended the war, because there was no way they were going to fight a second of the Yonko.

 

If they weren't fighting all the time, I imagine all four of them and their armies could team up and destroy the WG. Even just two of them possibly joining forces makes the WG panic, like when they unsuccessfully tried to stop Shanks and Whitebeard meeting at one point, since they feared the possibility of an alliance between the two.

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On Whitebeard vs. Garp: Whitebeard is stronger. How many times was he referred to as the strongest man in the world again? If the marines had a man equal to him they would have used him and not just had him sit on the sidelines as a final defense. Garp has always been portrayed as being on the same level as Sengoku - once admiral level, perhaps stronger than the current admirals, but the present day ones are known as the marines' "ultimate fighting force" for a reason. It was never stated that Garp actually fought Gold Roger, just that he chased him. Whitebeard was said to be the only man to ever tie with him in a duel - if somebody had beaten him they should be a whole lot more famous.

 

On Vergo and Monet: At one point Oda wrote that if a character, villain or otherwise, were to die during an arc, he didn't think he'd be able to draw a party scene at the end because there would be a bitter feeling to it. As far as he's concerned, the ending should be bittersweet at best if someone died*. So I wouldn't be surprised if both of them turn out to be alive.

 

 

*fodder and otherwise unnamed characters don't count

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