Yuma.dek Support

[Blake]

[center][spoiler=Gagaga Support][/center]
[center]Gagaga Musician[/center]
[center]DARK[/center]
[center]Lv. 4[/center]
[center]Spellcaster/Effect[/center]
[center]If you control a "Gagaga" monster, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand). Once per turn, if you control another Level 4 or higher "Gagaga" monster: You can declare a Level from 1-8; this card becomes that Level until the End Phase. An Xyz Effect Monster that has this card as an Xyz Material gains the following effect:[/center]
[center]● This card cannot be targetted or destroyed by Opponent's card effects. If this card detaches an Xyz Material for its effect, it must be "Gagaga Musician".[/center]
[center]1600/1600[/center]

[center]Gagaga Gate[/center]
[center]Normal Spell[/center]
[center]If you control 2 or more "Gagaga" monsters whose Levels are different than their original Level: Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower "Gagaga" monster from your deck in defense position.[/center]
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[center][spoiler=Gogogo][/center]
[center]Gogogo Goyle[/center]
[center]EARTH[/center]
[center]Lv. 4[/center]
[center]Rock/Effect[/center]
[center]You can Tribute this card; Special Summon 1 "Gogogo" monster from your Deck in face-up Defense Position, except "Gogogo Goyle" and its effects are negated once the next Phase begins.[/center]
[center]1700/1500[/center]
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[center][spoiler=General][/center]
[center]Drilltrill[/center]
[center]EARTH[/center]
[center]Lv. 4[/center]
[center]Winged Beast/Effect[/center]
[center]You can detach 1 Xyz Material from an Xyz Monster on the field and Special Summon this card (from your hand). If this card is Special Summoned by this effect; draw 1 card.[/center]
[center]1500/1000[/center]
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[center][spoiler=ZW][/center]
[center]ZW - Wyvern Blade[/center]
[center]WIND[/center]
[center]Lv. 3[/center]
[center]Dragon/Effect[/center]
[center]You can target 1 face-up "Number C39: Utopia Ray" you control; equip this card from your hand to that target. It gains 1500 ATK. If the equipped monster attacks or is attacked, your opponent cannot activate cards or effects until the end of the Damage Step. You can only control 1 face-up "ZW - Wyvern Blade".[/center]
[center]1500/0[/center]

[center]ZW - Bahamut Hatchet[/center]
[center]EARTH[/center]
[center]Lv. 4[/center]
[center]Beast-Warrior/Effect[/center]
[center]You can target 1 face-up "Number C39: Utopia Ray" you control; Equip this card from your hand to the target. It gains 1700 ATK. If the equipped monster destroys a monster by battle: You can destroy 1 cards on the field. You can only control 1 face-up "ZW - Bahamut Hatchet".[/center]
[center]1700/0[/center]

[center]ZW - Desmodus Dagger[/center]
[center]DARK[/center]
[center]Lv. 2[/center]
[center]Zombie/Effect[/center]
[center]You can target 1 face-up "Number C39: Utopia Ray" you control; Equip this card from your hand to the target. It gains 1300 ATK. If the equipped monster destroys an opponent's monster by battle and sends it to the Graveyard: You can send this Equip Card to the Graveyard; Special Summon that monster to your side of the field in face-up Defense Position. You can only control 1 face-up "ZW - Desmodus Dagger".[/center]
[center]1300/0[/center]

[center]ZW - Hydra Claws[/center]
[center]WATER[/center]
[center]Lv. 2[/center]
[center]Sea Serpent/Effect[/center]
[center]You can target 1 face-up "Number C39: Utopia Ray" you control; Equip this card from your hand to the target. It gains 1300 ATK. If the equipped monster destroys an opponent's monster by battle: You can negate its effects until the End Phase and send this Equip Card to the Graveyard; it can attack once again in a row. You can only control 1 face-up "ZW - Hydra Claws".[/center]
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[newhat]

Gagaga Musician is essentially Gagaga Magician with more ATK because it counts as a Level 4 "Gagaga" monster, though the negative effect prevents long-term abuse with the Rank 3 monsters.

Gagaga Gate is great! It's inconsistent enough to keep it balanced, and it works with Magi Magi Magician Girl or Big Eye to steal a monster and Xyz with it. Or you can make Lucky Straight?

[Blake]

[quote name='newhat' timestamp='1342133448' post='5975972']
Gagaga Musician is essentially Gagaga Magician with more ATK because it counts as a Level 4 "Gagaga" monster, though the negative effect prevents long-term abuse with the Rank 3 monsters.

Gagaga Gate is great! It's inconsistent enough to keep it balanced, and it works with Magi Magi Magician Girl or Big Eye to steal a monster and Xyz with it. Or you can make Lucky Straight?
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Uh, that was a mistake. Thought I typed another... Fixed x-x

Opens up lots of possibilities. Scared it might be a bit... weak.

[Bahamut - Envoy of the End]

Pretty much what everyone agrees Gagaga's need. Fits in with the archtype and does what it needs to do. Think giving an Xyz monster a permanent Semi-Safe Zone so easily is a bit... much, but that's my opinion and stuff. Gate does what it needs to in the way newhat said... let's all just hope that if such cards as these come out, Destiny Leo gets a massive hellacious nerf

[Blake]

Changed the thread a bit and added stuff, so bump.

[newhat]

Gogogo Goyle doesn't solve either of the Gogogo problems (a lack of ways to dump targets for Giant short of Rock Launch Area, and a lack of useful cards other than Giant).

Drilltrill is cool. However, it is also a hard "out" against Laggia. No points!

As for the ZW set,

Wyvern Blade is middling--it's 1 for 1 negation, but since you use up a card for it you might as well have used Compulsory or something.

Bahamut Hatchet is obviously powerful if you connect. 1700 ATK might be a bit much for that effect. What exactly [i]is[/i] it?

Desmodeus Dagger is a simple, solid +1 against lots of different monsters.

What Type is Hydra Claws? It's pretty cool.

[Mike Haggar]

You need a draw engine. Here, let me help.

Gogogo Gold
Spell/Normal
Send 1 "Gogogo" monster you control or in your hand to the Graveyard; draw 2 cards.

[newhat]

[quote name='Mike Haggar' timestamp='1342227713' post='5977095']
You need a draw engine. Here, let me help.

Gogogo Gold
Spell/Normal
Send 1 "Gogogo" monster you control or in your hand to the Graveyard; draw 2 cards.
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That does make dead Gogogo cards useful...but it's not a good idea to post new-hash ideas in someone else's card thread.

[Blake]

[quote name='newhat' timestamp='1342224860' post='5977032']
Gogogo Goyle doesn't solve either of the Gogogo problems (a lack of ways to dump targets for Giant short of Rock Launch Area, and a lack of useful cards other than Giant).

Drilltrill is cool. However, it is also a hard "out" against Laggia. No points!

As for the ZW set,

Wyvern Blade is middling--it's 1 for 1 negation, but since you use up a card for it you might as well have used Compulsory or something.

Bahamut Hatchet is obviously powerful if you connect. 1700 ATK might be a bit much for that effect. What exactly [i]is[/i] it?

Desmodeus Dagger is a simple, solid +1 against lots of different monsters.

What Type is Hydra Claws? It's pretty cool.
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Wait, a Lonefire doesn't help set up targets for Giant? I'm... pretty sure it sets it up quickly, though the no good targets except itself is valid.

Nerfed Drilltrill to an effect... Still, kills Laggia, which isn't exactly a bad thing. Very few cards use multiple Xyz Materials, anyways.

Wyvern Blade turns C39 into Gem-Knight Citrine... I'm honestly considering nerfing it to an Ancient Gear, because Citrine is kinda amazing.

Bahamut is either an earth-alligned fish thing with a hippo/elephant face (Arabic), or a straightforward alt spelling of Behemoth. So it's a beast king type deal. Also, lowered to popping 1.

Hydra is a Sea Serpent. Fixed the other issue with it, as well.

[newhat]

[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1398240351' post='5977389']
Wait, a Lonefire doesn't help set up targets for Giant? I'm... pretty sure it sets it up quickly, though the no good targets except itself is valid.[/quote]
Lonefire has targets that themselves draw +1s from the Graveyard or have strong effects. [i]This[/i] might as well be a Normal Monster.

[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1390247951' post='5977389']Nerfed Drilltrill to an effect... Still, kills Laggia, which isn't exactly a bad thing. Very few cards use multiple Xyz Materials, anyways.[/quote]
It's still a hard out to Laggia because of how Summoning Procedures work; you'll detach a Material before it can be negated. The fact that it's an instant +1 and Level 4 means you can throw it into any Deck and get massive card presence off the opponent's Xyz Monsters. Like Kurivolt, only way, way better. Also, that should be a colon before the draw.

[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1255240351' post='5977389']Wyvern Blade turns C39 into Gem-Knight Citrine... I'm honestly considering nerfing it to an Ancient Gear, because Citrine is kinda amazing.[/quote]
Citrine wouldn't be amazing if the -2 it takes to Summon it couldn't be mitigated in some way. Which is the case for this card unless your opponent has Lighpulsar out or something. It's balanced, I think.

[Blake]

[quote name='newhat' timestamp='1342241371' post='5977421']
Lonefire has targets that themselves draw +1s from the Graveyard or have strong effects. [i]This[/i] might as well be a Normal Monster.


It's still a hard out to Laggia because of how Summoning Procedures work; you'll detach a Material before it can be negated. The fact that it's an instant +1 and Level 4 means you can throw it into any Deck and get massive card presence off the opponent's Xyz Monsters. Like Kurivolt, only way, way better. Also, that should be a colon before the draw.


Citrine wouldn't be amazing if the -2 it takes to Summon it couldn't be mitigated in some way. Which is the case for this card unless your opponent has Lighpulsar out or something. It's balanced, I think.
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Eh, it still sets up the grave for Giant. If Gogogo Ghost is released and made generic (Like I think Giant was), then it'd be a 1-card Xyz which makes it the opposite. It's no different than Geargiarmor (Well, sans ATK gain) in that case, but I probably will add mroe Gogogo stuff.

I know it's still an out to Laggia, I even said that. Still... ideas on nerfing it?

The nerf was more a flavor thing, given ZW - Unicorn Spear, but eh.

[newhat]

[size=1]Heh, grammar. "Still kills Laggia" and "Still, kills Laggia".[/size]
[size=1][size=4]Nerfing the woodpecker is simple: take out the draw.[/size][/size]

[Mike Haggar]

LE spam cards

[Blake]

Get out of this topic, stop posting your cards in it. This is not a community thread =/