The Mushroom Kingdom

[Headmaster Monokuma]

[quote name='Ice.' timestamp='1343360571' post='5989895']
Well, I just added Delibird to Team Trainwreck, so I'm ready again.

Like what? It didn't really add anything other cool then reusable TMs, imo. I still haven't finished my Nuzlocke that I started like, a year and a half ago too.

>implying it's ever gonna happen

I doubt it.
[/quote]

f*** yeah.

[spoiler=Stuff]
The number of HMs has been reduced from eight to six.

In international versions of the game, non-nicknamed Pokémon names are displayed with only one capital letter, rather than having all capital letters prior to Generation V.

TMs now have infinite uses, like HMs.


The overworld music also changes in certain circumstances. Almost all the routes now have instruments that differ between the seasons, and layers that activate and deactivate when the player walks or stops, respectively; while music that plays in some towns and cities have layers that can be added by talking to citizens. These people can be seen playing different musical instruments like piano, guitar, etc.


The battle music changes under certain conditions. When one of the player's Pokémon on the battlefield has less than 25% of their HP, the music changes to a faster, more suspenseful music. When battling a Gym Leader's last Pokémon, the music also changes.


The Poké Mart is now combined with the Pokémon Center.


The addition of 92 new moves, bringing the total to 559.

The addition of 41 new abilities, bringing the total to 164. Many older Pokémon are allowed to have new Abilities, including some that were introduced in Generation III and Generation IV, by transferring them from the Dream World. This effectively gives most Pokémon three legitimate abilities, rather than the two which have been standard since Generation III.


Rotom's appliance forms are now no longer Ghost-type Pokémon; instead, they are Electric and the type of their special move.
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I'm a big fan of atmospheric things, and I felt like this Gen had the best atmosphere out of any of them.

It's possible, as unlikely as it is.

[Ice.]

[quote name='Rumisiel' timestamp='1343360947' post='5989900']
f*** yeah.

[spoiler=Stuff]
The number of HMs has been reduced from eight to six.

In international versions of the game, non-nicknamed Pokémon names are displayed with only one capital letter, rather than having all capital letters prior to Generation V.

TMs now have infinite uses, like HMs.


The overworld music also changes in certain circumstances. Almost all the routes now have instruments that differ between the seasons, and layers that activate and deactivate when the player walks or stops, respectively; while music that plays in some towns and cities have layers that can be added by talking to citizens. These people can be seen playing different musical instruments like piano, guitar, etc.


The battle music changes under certain conditions. When one of the player's Pokémon on the battlefield has less than 25% of their HP, the music changes to a faster, more suspenseful music. When battling a Gym Leader's last Pokémon, the music also changes.


The Poké Mart is now combined with the Pokémon Center.


The addition of 92 new moves, bringing the total to 559.

The addition of 41 new abilities, bringing the total to 164. Many older Pokémon are allowed to have new Abilities, including some that were introduced in Generation III and Generation IV, by transferring them from the Dream World. This effectively gives most Pokémon three legitimate abilities, rather than the two which have been standard since Generation III.


Rotom's appliance forms are now no longer Ghost-type Pokémon; instead, they are Electric and the type of their special move.
[/spoiler]

I'm a big fan of atmospheric things, and I felt like this Gen had the best atmosphere out of any of them.

It's possible, as unlikely as it is.
[/quote]

Did you like...copy and paste that off of the wiki.

And no offense but most of those changes are like, minor stuff. Some of the ability stuff and moves I could understand though. I dunno, it just never "clicked" with me. It could be I'm just getting, gasp, [i]bored[/i] of Pokemon.

And don't tease me with the idea that it'll happen. ;_;

[Headmaster Monokuma]

[quote name='Ice.' timestamp='1343361379' post='5989917']
Did you like...copy and paste that off of the wiki.

And no offense but most of those changes are like, minor stuff. Some of the ability stuff and moves I could understand though. I dunno, it just never "clicked" with me. It could be I'm just getting, gasp, [i]bored[/i] of Pokemon.

And don't tease me with the idea that it'll happen. ;_;
[/quote]

Yes.

Pokemon is made of minor changes. The BIGGEST change to happen in ANY Gen was the Physical/Special Split. After that, there's not much to change cause the formula works. All you can do is change minor things and add in new moves, abilities, and Pokemon. Anything bigger is left to Spin-offs and the-much-wished-for console games.

THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT IT MAN. THEY COULD MAKE IT HAPPEN.

[Shradow]

I'd say Gen V had some fairly big changes (relatively speaking). Aside from what Dane said, we also got triple/rotation battles and in-battle idle animations and camera movement.

[Ice.]

[quote name='Rumisiel' timestamp='1343361592' post='5989922']
Yes.

Pokemon is made of minor changes. The BIGGEST change to happen in ANY Gen was the Physical/Special Split. After that, there's not much to change cause the formula works. All you can do is change minor things and add in new moves, abilities, and Pokemon. Anything bigger is left to Spin-offs and the-much-wished-for console games.

THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT IT MAN. THEY COULD MAKE IT HAPPEN.
[/quote]

Eh, true. It's minor changes the game. It wasn't the lack of change that bothered me though, it just didn't captivate me for some reason. I just dropped it before the 8th Gym and had to force myself to continue 4 months later.

And now you bring up the Console Games.

Great, first you tease me with R/S remakes and now you bring up the Orre region. Jerk.

[Headmaster Monokuma]

[quote name='Ice.' timestamp='1343361985' post='5989932']
Eh, true. It's minor changes the game. It wasn't the lack of change that bothered me though, it just didn't captivate me for some reason. I just dropped it before the 8th Gym and had to force myself to continue 4 months later.

And now you bring up the Console Games.

Great, first you tease me with R/S remakes and now you bring up the Orre region. Jerk.
[/quote]

I can't blame you. The Gyms were terrible. I can see why the region/games didn't really interest you. I enjoyed the atmosphere and the gameplay introductions. I'm more interested in the competitive side honestly, and Gen 5 did a lot for it.

Damn right.

I'm an ass. I thought you knew this.

[Ice.]

[quote name='Rumisiel' timestamp='1343362150' post='5989935']
I can't blame you. The Gyms were terrible. I can see why the region/games didn't really interest you. I enjoyed the atmosphere and the gameplay introductions. I'm more interested in the competitive side honestly, and Gen 5 did a lot for it.

Damn right.

I'm an ass. I thought you knew this.
[/quote]

Alright, I'm just gonna lay it out. How does Pokemon get competitive exactly? I understand Fighting games because of the skill/mindgames, Starcraft for the skill/quick thinking & reaction speed and MOBAs for...well, okay, I don't get MOBAs. But still, can you just like explain in a really simple way how it's competitive? Like, uhh, speak Texan. No wait, valley girl. That's stupid enough. Anyways, I've always been curious as to how it gets competitive.

And yes, you are an ass.

[Headmaster Monokuma]

[quote name='Ice.' timestamp='1343362559' post='5989945']
Alright, I'm just gonna lay it out. How does Pokemon get competitive exactly? I understand Fighting games because of the skill/mindgames, Starcraft for the skill/quick thinking & reaction speed and MOBAs for...well, okay, I don't get MOBAs. But still, can you just like explain in a really simple way how it's competitive? Like, uhh, speak Texan. No wait, valley girl. That's stupid enough. Anyways, I've always been curious as to how it gets competitive.

And yes, you are an ass.
[/quote]

Everyone wants to be better then the next person. Different moves are more optimal on different Pokemon. Find out those combos, you have an edge. Different teams need a different Pokemon and a different balance then the next. You can't just slap any Pokemon together and expect to win, compared to a team that had thought.

It's not easy to explain honestly. DIfferent pokemon fill different niches and you just have to have a team that can counter those, but still be able to fight.

Good.

[Ice.]

[quote name='Rumisiel' timestamp='1343362783' post='5989954']
Everyone wants to be better then the next person. Different moves are more optimal on different Pokemon. Find out those combos, you have an edge. Different teams need a different Pokemon and a different balance then the next. You can't just slap any Pokemon together and expect to win, compared to a team that had thought.

It's not easy to explain honestly. DIfferent pokemon fill different niches and you just have to have a team that can counter those, but still be able to fight.

Good.
[/quote]

But doesn't it lack the amount of skill other competitive games would allow?

I mean I read up on the metagame slightly and I heard it's dominated by something. A metagame that is dominated is a bad one, as it shows little room for flexibility in the gameplay of others, unless they expect to lose. That's why I always liked Marvel, the metagame changes every other week, first it's rushdown, then it's keepaway, then it's teleporting mindgames etc etc.

This seems pretty cookie cutter. But w/e, I'll figure it out for myself as I get pummeled by you or Black or Clair.

[Headmaster Monokuma]

[quote name='Ice.' timestamp='1343363064' post='5989961']
But doesn't it lack the amount of skill other competitive games would allow?

I mean I read up on the metagame slightly and I heard it's dominated by something. A metagame that is dominated is a bad one, as it shows little room for flexibility in the gameplay of others, unless they expect to lose. That's why I always liked Marvel, the metagame changes every other week, first it's rushdown, then it's keepaway, then it's teleporting mindgames etc etc.

This seems pretty cookie cutter. But w/e, I'll figure it out for myself as I get pummeled by you or Black or Clair.
[/quote]

Honestly? The Metagame is dominated by WEATHER. You know, that thing everyone wanted to use. Hell, Ceada uses Hail Stall. If I didn't ban Weather, guess what she was gonna use.

Without Weather, everything else gets a chance. Hell, anything already can be viable. Tier's in POkemon don't work the same as, say, Yugioh. Everything in a lower Tier has a chance in that Tier simply because the higher Tiered things can't kill it there.

Go to Smogon. Look at the Tiers each Pokemon is in and read the description on some of those Pokemon. Start in NU. Persian is a great Scout in NU, but Liepard gets use as well as one. Different Pokemon can be chosen over others.

Hell, Dream World changed a lot of things by giving certain Pokemon certain abilities. It's really interesting since some Pokemon counters others, which are further countered by other common things. It's all about being able to predict what your opponent might have and being able to do it consistently.

By the way guys, gonna be posting pairings in a minute, so yeah. If you aren't ready, just let your opponent know when you will be.

[Ice.]

[quote name='Rumisiel' timestamp='1343363438' post='5989968']
Honestly? The Metagame is dominated by WEATHER. You know, that thing everyone wanted to use. Hell, Ceada uses Hail Stall. If I didn't ban Weather, guess what she was gonna use.

Without Weather, everything else gets a chance. Hell, anything already can be viable. Tier's in POkemon don't work the same as, say, Yugioh. Everything in a lower Tier has a chance in that Tier simply because the higher Tiered things can't kill it there.

Go to Smogon. Look at the Tiers each Pokemon is in and read the description on some of those Pokemon. Start in NU. Persian is a great Scout in NU, but Liepard gets use as well as one. Different Pokemon can be chosen over others.

Hell, Dream World changed a lot of things by giving certain Pokemon certain abilities. It's really interesting since some Pokemon counters others, which are further countered by other common things. It's all about being able to predict what your opponent might have and being able to do it consistently.

By the way guys, gonna be posting pairings in a minute, so yeah. If you aren't ready, just let your opponent know when you will be.
[/quote]

Sounds pretty similar to Fighting Games then, actually.

Hell, I may end up enjoying this in the end. Who knows.

And I swear, if I guessed who I'm paired up with, I'm gonna shoot myself.

[Headmaster Monokuma]

[quote name='Ice.' timestamp='1343363755' post='5989974']
Sounds pretty similar to Fighting Games then, actually.

Hell, I may end up enjoying this in the end. Who knows.

And I swear, if I guessed who I'm paired up with, I'm gonna shoot myself.
[/quote]

It's close. Not the exact same, but it's the same premise and works similarly.

HEY GUYS IT'S TIME TO FACE GUYS AND STUFF

ZEROCHILL VS CAEDA
SMEAR VS CLAIR
ICE VS BLACK
ME VS SHRADOW

YEAH

[Shradow]

Oh goodness. You want to get this over with? If you do, I'll be in the main server, name's Shradow.

[Headmaster Monokuma]

[quote name='Shradow' timestamp='1343364370' post='5989982']
Oh goodness. You want to get this over with? If you do, I'll be in the main server, name's Shradow.
[/quote]

Sure, on Pokemon Mexico server. USername is just Dane.

[Ice.]

[quote name='Rumisiel' timestamp='1343364271' post='5989981']
It's close. Not the exact same, but it's the same premise and works similarly.

HEY GUYS IT'S TIME TO FACE GUYS AND STUFF

ZEROCHILL VS CAEDA
SMEAR VS CLAIR
ICE VS BLACK
ME VS SHRADOW

YEAH
[/quote]

KNEW IT.

CALLED IT. CALLED IT CALLED IT.

But uhh, where do we take part in this?

[Blake]

If you're ready for it, I can go now, in Mexico as well.

[Ice.]

I may be able to do it now, if not then tomorrow.

I just need to you know, download it and hope I have time after.

Sorry for the inconvenience bro. I'm not procrastinating my defeat, I swear.

I'm just like, unorganized as f***.

[Blake]

Either way, name is Yuzuru on there, which I forgot to clarify. Just give a heads up if you are ready.

[Clair]

The thing that pissed me off most about Gen V. was how uncreative they were getting with the names and Pokemon.

notably
foongus -> amoongus
klink -> klang -> klinklang

But overall, I like this gen. Has some pretty awesome Pokemon... just wish I knew more about them and the metagame first.

But here we gooo! Smear, where are ya? ;__;

[Shradow]

Holy s*** I won.

Uncreative? Maybe it's my love of puns, but I like Foongus and Amoongus.

I'll disregard anything bad people say about Gen V. It gave me the Iron Giant, so I will love it forever.

[Ice.]

[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1343364966' post='5989992']
Either way, name is Yuzuru on there, which I forgot to clarify. Just give a heads up if you are ready.
[/quote]

I would have guessed.

I'll give you a notice when I'm ready.


[quote name='Clair' timestamp='1343365070' post='5989993']
The thing that pissed me off most about Gen V. was how uncreative they were getting with the names and Pokemon.

notably
foongus -> amoongus
klink -> klang -> klinklang

But overall, I like this gen. Has some pretty awesome Pokemon... just wish I knew more about them and the metagame first.

But here we gooo! Smear, where are ya? ;__;
[/quote]

garbodor or whatever is also stupid as f***. god damn that thing.

And Codey is busy wrestling Kangaroos in Australia School.

He'll probably be ready in like, an hour or so.

[Clair]

[quote name='Ice.' timestamp='1343365252' post='5989996']
garbodor or whatever is also stupid as f***. god damn that thing.

And Codey is busy wrestling Kangaroos in Australia School.

He'll probably be ready in like, an hour or so.
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and pidove? why do we need pidove? THERE ARE ALREADY LIKE 9001 NORMAL/FLYING TYPES OUT THERE.
also, ice cream is now totally pokemon.
I'll bet the designer was really stumped, and really hungry at the same time...

[Shradow]

Well, the ice cream ones came from [url=http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/James_Turner]the first western person to design Pokémon[/url] if that means anything.

[Kazooie]

[quote name='Clair' timestamp='1343365396' post='5989998']
also, ice cream is now totally pokemon.
[/quote]

ice cream is one of the coolest pokemon ever cause ice-type and we need more good ones

D<

[Ice.]

[quote name='Clair' timestamp='1343365396' post='5989998']
and pidove? why do we need pidove? THERE ARE ALREADY LIKE 9001 NORMAL/FLYING TYPES OUT THERE.
also, ice cream is now totally pokemon.
I'll bet the designer was really stumped, and really hungry at the same time...
[/quote]

Nah he was probably high.

"hey man, hey, hey man"

"What is it, Kenji."

"yo man, like, what if, stay with me man, what if we like, we like make an ice cream pokemon man"

"Kenji, are you okay?"

"we need a garbage pokemon too. like, full out piles of garbage. kids loooove garbage."