PS3, Xbox360 getting outdated?

[Tentacruel]

Sure, but i have and still saying that maybe its the hardware getting outdated not the games

 

 

And do you think its outdated or what, i am not saying the the 360 and ps3 suck but i would like developed to put the 360 and ps3 through their paces when the console is still new not 5 years later thats when the quality games come out, i know about all that engine staff but still.....

Are you serious? The best games comes out when the consoles have been around for 5 years, as it takes time for the developers to fully take advantage of the hardware.

[ENMaker]

As someone who's PS3 won't connect to the f*cking internet, I have to focus on offline stuff. CoD4 is far superior to MW2 or 3 in my opinion, yet this has nothing to do with the hardware of the consoles, it has to do with the amount of effort put in by the developers.

[Poc]

Are you serious? The best games comes out when the consoles have been around for 5 years, as it takes time for the developers to fully take advantage of the hardware.

 

you serious? This gen's hardware is ancient at this point. All those fancy graphics are just clever tricks by the developers to make the visuals seem better than they really are.

 

Man, my standard calculator probably has more RAM than the xbox.

[Tentacruel]

you serious? This gen's hardware is ancient at this point. All those fancy graphics are just clever tricks by the developers to make the visuals seem better than they really are.

 

It's called optimization. The beginning of each gen is filled with craptastic tech demo's because no one knows how to use the hardware properly yet.

 

Also, again, hardware is too overemphasized. N64 is still more fun than a lot of the junk that gets put out now.

[Desu the Blue Nerd]

Except Mario doesn't suck and that's a fact, so that says little of your opinion.

 

Listen to yourself for five f*cking minutes. It's NOT a fact. Merely an opinion. Just a popular opinion. Oh hey, a bunch of deaf chicks and my brother like Justin Beiber so he MUST be awesome, right? It's a fact now. Shradow might as well have said it himself since I'm using his logic. That logic applies there too. Unless your logic is that just because you think something is awesome then it is awesome. Even if it's something like the Super Mario Bros. movie which is widely regarded as being complete garbage. Anyway, I don't like Mario so it's not a fact to me that Mario is awesome. You know what that makes my thoughts on it? AN OPINION. Geez, cut the fanboyism for five seconds, will ya?

Play Persona 3(P3P is on the PSN store, if you can't find it anywhere). If you can be bothered, go get P3FES, It has a extra story in it. The Awnser, iirc and some more Personas and things.

Also like, FFX is one of the best in the series and it came out Dec 17, 2001. Then again, 4,6,9 and 10 are the only really good final fantasy games, imo.

 

Also Persona 4. Persona 4: The Golden will be coming out soon for the Vita. Just saying. Heard good things and the anime was amazing so it's also a good recommendation.

P.S. Stop acting like your opinions are facts. They've gotten you in trouble before. Unless of course those really are the only good ones to have ever actually existed and the first didn't save a company based on what I've heard.

The people who said single player is dying obviously haven't played Mass Effect, or the Elder Scrolls games. Maybe for shooters, single player is dying, but single player games in general are teeming with promise.

 

Yes, single player is not YET dead but pay attention and you'll realize everything is slowly being corrupted by Multiplayer. Mass Effect 3 had multiplayer, right? Not saying it actually ruined the game but still mentioning that all developers are indeed becoming more focused on it. And Elder Scroll is getting a freaking MMO. I still need to read the article in Gameinformer about it.

Unfortunately, Single-Player Electronic Diversions are slowly being permeated from the generation of Electronic Diversions simply on the basis of being a primitive experience. While the Elder Scrolls and Mass Effect diversions are, indeed, commendable for being exceptional single-player, most developers would rather cast their spotlight on how graphically accelerated they have advanced, showcasing realism rather than vibrancy. In addition, I feel that the current advantages these developers recieve have also decreased the amount of quality put into the conception of their creations (id est downloadable content allows developers to dispatch intersections in order to appease their consumers early and then finish the product via updates online). It is a reason why I prefer 6th generation console gaming rather than the 7th generation console gaming in general.

 

I'd like to mention that I like your posts in this thread. And that downloadable content is silly. Yay, paying more for a game I already bought. Genius.

What about Zelda, Alan Wake, Heavy Rain, Borderlands, Mario, Red Dead Redemption, Metro 2033, Fallout, God of War, etc.

 

No offense, but I don't really see what your point unless you only play games focused on multiplayer, such as, not to tire out an overused an example, Call of Duty. Or Battlefield. Or Halo. See what I mean? I don't expect to get the same single player experience playing MAG as I do Super Mario Galaxy.

 

Borderlands is a better co-op experience. Just saying. Loved that game but I found it even more enjoyable being able to distract a badass spiderant while my friend attacked it from behind instead of being chased by a hoard of them as my bullets barely dented their tough exoskeleton. Oh, and they're adding in multiplayer to the next God of War Game. Also just saying.

 

And we really don't expect the same experience. The problem here is that everything is slowly regressing to CoD levels and being Multiplayer focused without a decent single player experience.

Are you serious? The best games comes out when the consoles have been around for 5 years, as it takes time for the developers to fully take advantage of the hardware.

 

This. And that next thing this guy says even though it's opinionized.

 

Also, we don't really need new systems. They're not particularly bad yet and do the job. Also, it's not like the most realistic graphics ever actually matter that much when they're only really just a semi decent selling point for not as decent FPS games.

[Shradow]

Mario's been in hundreds of games and has sold millions, most likely billions, of dollars. It doesn't matter what your damn opinion is, that means he doesn't suck.

 

As for the movie, it entertained me but that doesn't keep me and everyone else from knowing for a fact it was a bad movie.

[Trapspringer]

The one thing that really chaps my a** about modern gaming isn't the fact that gaming industries are focusing on multiplayer, it's that they're focusing on ONLINE multiplayer. One of the biggest selling points of last generation gaming was that two of the systems could support four player multiplayer locally. Now, all the consoles can do this, but 90% of games with multiplayer capabilities REQUIRE an online connection to play more than two players. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?!?

['tyleR]

Yes, single player is not YET dead but pay attention and you'll realize everything is slowly being corrupted by Multiplayer. Mass Effect 3 had multiplayer, right? Not saying it actually ruined the game but still mentioning that all developers are indeed becoming more focused on it. And Elder Scroll is getting a freaking MMO. I still need to read the article in Gameinformer about it.

 

Borderlands is a better co-op experience. Just saying. Loved that game but I found it even more enjoyable being able to distract a badass spiderant while my friend attacked it from behind instead of being chased by a hoard of them as my bullets barely dented their tough exoskeleton. Oh, and they're adding in multiplayer to the next God of War Game. Also just saying.

 

And we really don't expect the same experience. The problem here is that everything is slowly regressing to CoD levels and being Multiplayer focused without a decent single player experience.

 

Mass Effect 3 had multiplayer, but you hardly heard about it. All I heard about was how fantastic its singleplayer was. Multiplayer in no way ruined or corrupted Mass Effect, just as it probably won't God of War. Having multiplayer isn't a bad thing. It's a bad thing when the entire game really suffers quality issues because of the multiplayer taking up all the time. Multiplayer itself, though, is not bad. And yes, Elder Scrolls is MMO. Your point being what? That doesn't change the fact that it's a fantastic singleplayer game.

 

Staying neutral is the best line of action for the industry. Having games be just singleplayer or just multiplayer isn't going to work. I mean, obviously some games need to be one and not the other, but that's fine, so long as the industry as a whole isn't going towards one side. Saying multiplayer is a corruption just doesn't make sense. Corruption is having/being an impurity or being tainted. Multiplayer isn't an impurity.

[Flame Dragon]

Single player games are becoming less and less common because it is more fun to play with other people. Even Nintendo, whose games are often single player, have been adding ways to get more people in on the action. I do see a difference between them and and other true multiplayer games though since Nintendo's games can stand alone on the single player.

 

 

 

As for being outdated, tech gets outdated very fast, so its only natural that the longer without a new system the more apparent is gets. It doesn't help that the 360 is 7 years old and the PS3 is 6, and neither will have a new system in foreseeable future.

 

Personally, I think the PS3 can get buy since it still has solid games. The 360 on the other hand is just trash since outside of like 3 franchises everything it does is done by someone else.

[Desu the Blue Nerd]

Mass Effect 3 had multiplayer, but you hardly heard about it.

I've heard quite a bit. But it's probably just because I've seen Let's Plays of the co-op stuff.

All I heard about was how fantastic its singleplayer was.

Minus the supposedly sh*tty ending, right?

Multiplayer in no way ruined or corrupted Mass Effect, just as it probably won't God of War.

I never said it ruined the game. Only pointed out that it had it.

Having multiplayer isn't a bad thing. It's a bad thing when the entire game really suffers quality issues because of the multiplayer taking up all the time. Multiplayer itself, though, is not bad.

Agreed.

And yes, Elder Scrolls is MMO. Your point being what? That doesn't change the fact that it's a fantastic singleplayer game.

You know what an MMO is, right?

 

Staying neutral is the best line of action for the industry. Having games be just singleplayer or just multiplayer isn't going to work. I mean, obviously some games need to be one and not the other, but that's fine, so long as the industry as a whole isn't going towards one side. Saying multiplayer is a corruption just doesn't make sense. Corruption is having/being an impurity or being tainted. Multiplayer isn't an impurity.

But the thing is that Multiplayer is indeed taking over.

Mario's been in hundreds of games and has sold millions, most likely billions, of dollars. It doesn't matter what your damn opinion is, that means he doesn't suck.

 

As for the movie, it entertained me but that doesn't keep me and everyone else from knowing for a fact it was a bad movie.

 

I believe he sucks. That doesn't mean you believe he sucks. Seriously, shut the f*ck up with your damn opininionated bullsh*t. Just because that Italian plumber sells well doesn't mean I'm going to suddenly like him. All your doing is acting as if your opinion is law and guess what? It f*cking isn't.

The one thing that really chaps my a** about modern gaming isn't the fact that gaming industries are focusing on multiplayer, it's that they're focusing on ONLINE multiplayer. One of the biggest selling points of last generation gaming was that two of the systems could support four player multiplayer locally. Now, all the consoles can do this, but 90% of games with multiplayer capabilities REQUIRE an online connection to play more than two players. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?!?

 

Oh god yes. I had an XBox for like maybe three to five years before we finally got Live. And when we did I still couldn't really share my username and play with friends online because my dad used his real name so I still don't usually use it. On the other hand I'd freaking love if me and two of my friends were all capable of playing Borderlands.

As for being outdated, tech gets outdated very fast, so its only natural that the longer without a new system the more apparent is gets. It doesn't help that the 360 is 7 years old and the PS3 is 6, and neither will have a new system in foreseeable future.

 

Personally, I think the PS3 can get buy since it still has solid games. The 360 on the other hand is just trash since outside of like 3 franchises everything it does is done by someone else.

 

As somebody with a XBox and only really has the Sony handheld's I find myself slowly beginning to prefer Sony since I find them coming out with stuff that interests me with the XBox having pretty much nothing anymore.

[Tentacruel]

Seriously, shut the f*ck up with your damn opininionated bullsh*t. Just because that Italian plumber sells well doesn't mean I'm going to suddenly like him. All your doing is acting as if your opinion is law and guess what? It f*cking isn't.

 

Lol desu. Go back through your posts and you'll find PLENTY of opinionated "bullsh*t", as they say. <3

[Shradow]

It's not my opinion that's the reason he doesn't suck, though. I could care less if you like him or not, nor does it matter, I'm just going by the facts.

 

I could hate Mario's guts but I wouldn't be stupid enough to think that his games sucked.

[Flame Dragon]

I believe he sucks. That doesn't mean you believe he sucks. Seriously, shut the f*ck up with your damn opininionated bullsh*t. Just because that Italian plumber sells well doesn't mean I'm going to suddenly like him. All your doing is acting as if your opinion is law and guess what? It f*cking isn't.

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean something is actually bad. I don't like Coca Cola or Pepsi but I don't think those are bad drinks. Their is a difference between not liking something and that something actually being bad.

 

As somebody with a XBox and only really has the Sony handheld's I find myself slowly beginning to prefer Sony since I find them coming out with stuff that interests me with the XBox having pretty much nothing anymore.

The biggest problem with the XBox is they have almost no exclusives games. You can't make your system sell if you don't give people a reason to buy it over its competitors. The only reason we haven't seen the 720 yet is because Xbox live has been making Microsoft a crap ton of money even though

[Desu the Blue Nerd]

Lol desu. Go back through your posts and you'll find PLENTY of opinionated "bullsh*t", as they say. <3

I made it obvious it was merely my opinion and speculations on the subjects at hand though. I didn't scream that my opinions were "lolfacts" which is what I have been complaining about for him and a few others. It's not about him talking about his OPINION but that he just won't admit that's all it actually is. <3

 

Except for stuff about the Persona series if you want to count that even though that was still based on my speculation of playing the games (and watching the anime). I'll admit that is still an opinion although just one example of me somewhat seeming to act as if an opinion is a "matter of fact" which I will once again admit is an opinion.

 

Now would you like to bring up an actual example that I don't have to do for you so that I can actually reply to it? Because other than that you're not actually bringing anything up that I didn't make obvious already. And quite frankly, you're not being all that relevant. As I said in the first two lines I'm not even complaining about him stating an opinion. Just that he won't admit that's all there is to it. His own opinion that is. I felt the need to have to say it twice because clearly you didn't catch how OBVIOUS (notice how often I have to use that word with you? Because these things really should be) it was that I was complaining about that.

It's not my opinion that's the reason he doesn't suck, though. I could care less if you like him or not, nor does it matter, I'm just going by the facts.

 

I've only said I don't like him and to me he sucks. It's my opinion that he sucks. NOT yours and I'm not trying to say it's yours. Mine. Not the general public. Mine. You're NOT even going by facts. Just your opinion.

 

And please read that first sentence of your post again. It didn't make much sense or really any at all.

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean something is actually bad. I don't like Coca Cola or Pepsi but I don't think those are bad drinks. Their is a difference between not liking something is bad and that something actually being bad.

I've constantly repeated over and over that it is only my opinion that I don't like it and therefore it's bad to me. Geez, I have to repeat this too many times and how many more times will I actually have to? >_>

 

The biggest problem with the XBox is they have almost no exclusives games. You can't make your system sell if you don't give people a reason to buy it over its competitors. The only reason we haven't seen the 720 yet is because Xbox live has been making Microsoft a crap ton of money even though

Sounds about right.

[Shradow]

It makes perfect sense, perhaps you need to work on your reading comprehension. And Mario being in hundreds of games and selling millions isn't my opinion.

[Desu the Blue Nerd]

It makes perfect sense, perhaps you need to work on your reading comprehension. And Mario being in hundreds of games and selling millions isn't my opinion.

 

*Facedesk.*

 

So because it wasn't an opinion it doesn't suck? Come on! That makes no logical sense! And that "fact" doesn't mean I don't believe he sucks. I still don't like him. I've been complaining about your "fact" that him and his games are undeniably awesome. How come you aren't getting it through that thick skull of yours that I don't like Mario and that's just my opinion and you liking him is an opinion? You know what an opinion is, right? Yes, he's popular. I never denied that. I've implied it plenty of times. It's why your argument has been sh*t all along. I have a different opinion than you. So what? You said you didn't care about it but it's apparently because differing opinions than yours JUST DON'T EXIST TO YOU. Why are you still acting as if people can't have different opinions or that they just don't?

 

Are we having two completely different conversations yet I'm the only one who actually realized it? It's beginning to seem like that. Are you like one of those bots trying to get me to go into an inappropriate site yet whenever I say no you keep talking about your fetishes? Because those things are pretty annoying and you're being annoying. No wait, this is more like you're one of those bots and I'm a broken record. I keep saying the same thing over and over and you just don't get it.

 

CAN WE JUST GET WARNINGS AND BE TOLD TO SHUT UP ALREADY?! This has been the single dumbest argument I've ever been in and I doubt it's going to end anytime soon as long as Shradow keeps being a bigger stubborn idiot than me.

[Flame Dragon]

I made it obvious it was merely my opinion and speculations on the subjects at hand though. I didn't scream that my opinions were "lolfacts" which is what I have been complaining about for him and a few others. It's not about him talking about his OPINION but that he just won't admit that's all it actually is.

 

Except for stuff about the Persona series if you want to count that even though that was still based on my speculation of playing the games (and watching the anime). I'll admit that is still an opinion although just one example of me somewhat seeming to act as if an opinion is a "matter of fact" which I will once again admit is an opinion.

 

Now would you like to bring up an actual example that I don't have to do for you so that I can actually reply to it? Because other than that you're not actually bringing anything up that I didn't make obvious already. And quite frankly, you're not being all that relevant. As I said in the first two lines I'm not even complaining about him stating an opinion. Just that he won't admit that's all there is to it. His own opinion that is. I felt the need to have to say it twice because clearly you didn't catch how OBVIOUS (notice how often I have to use that word with you? Because these things really should be) it was that I was complaining about that.

 

 

I've only said I don't like him and to me he sucks. It's my opinion that he sucks. NOT yours and I'm not trying to say it's yours. Mine. Not the general public. Mine. You're NOT even going by facts. Just your opinion.

 

And please read that first sentence of your post again. It didn't make much sense or really any at all.

The attitude you have made it seem like you weren't doing that. Thats all really.

 

It makes perfect sense, perhaps you need to work on your reading comprehension. And Mario being in hundreds of games and selling millions isn't my opinion.

COD has sold a crap ton of games and critically does well yet I think the series is trash. Even if something is the best thing ever you can, and people do, think it is bad.

[Shradow]

So because it wasn't an opinion it doesn't suck?

I never said that, where are you getting this? A fact can still be dislikable.

Come on! That makes no logical sense! And that "fact" doesn't mean I don't believe he sucks. I still don't like him. I've been complaining about your "fact" that him and his games are undeniably awesome. How come you aren't getting it through that thick skull of yours that I don't like Mario and that's just my opinion and you liking him is an opinion?

I'm not sure what you mean, I merely said that his games don't suck because he's so popular, because he wouldn't be if his games sucked. "Undeniably awesome" as you put it, has never come up before. And I'm not sure why you still believe I don't know that you don't like him, I've understood that since the beginning, you outright stated it.

You know what an opinion is, right? Yes, he's popular. I never denied that. I've implied it plenty of times. It's why your argument has been sh*t all along. I have a different opinion than you. So what? You said you didn't care about it but it's apparently because differing opinions than yours JUST DON'T EXIST TO YOU. Why are you still acting as if people can't have different opinions or that they just don't?

Again, I'm not sure where you're getting these assumptions. I know other people have opinions and I never said that people can't have differing ones.

Are we having two completely different conversations yet I'm the only one who actually realized it? It's beginning to seem like that. Are you like one of those bots trying to get me to go into an inappropriate site yet whenever I say no you keep talking about your fetishes? Because those things are pretty annoying and you're being annoying. No wait, this is more like you're one of those bots and I'm a broken record. I keep saying the same thing over and over and you just don't get it.

You bring up such weird points that no one ever said, if I had to hazard a guess I'd say you don't quite understand what's going on.

CAN WE JUST GET WARNINGS AND BE TOLD TO SHUT UP ALREADY?! This has been the single dumbest argument I've ever been in and I doubt it's going to end anytime soon as long as Shradow keeps being a bigger stubborn idiot than me.

If anyone were to get a warning I'd say it would be you, you've gotten so worked up over this, it's quite rude.

 

As for CoD, I don't care for it but it's obviously doing something right to be so successful.

[Desu the Blue Nerd]

The attitude you have made it seem like you weren't doing that. Thats all really.

Yeah, I get that a lot. Fairly common misunderstanding with me.

 

COD has sold a crap ton of games and critically does well yet I think the series is trash. Even if something is the best thing ever you can, and people do, think it is bad.

I used the same argument except using Justin Beiber earlier. Completely ignored.

[/color]

I never said that, where are you getting this?

"It's not my opinion that's the reason he doesn't suck, though."

Those are your exact words!

 

I'm not sure what you mean, I merely said that his games don't suck because he's so popular,

Which is a terrible agument for reasons brought up by both FD and I.

because he wouldn't be if his games sucked. "Undeniably awesome" as you put it, has never come up before.

Most people don't think his games suck. I understand that. I think his games suck though. My opinion. I've said that countless times already. And you said multiple times it's a FACT that his games don't suck. A FACT IS SOMETHING THAT'S UNDENIABLE! You knew that, right? And you know what I did? I DENIED it.

And I'm not sure why you still believe I don't know that you don't like him, I've understood that since the beginning, you outright stated it.

THEN WHY THE HELL ARE YOU STILL TALKING?!?!

 

Again, I'm not sure where you're getting these assumptions. I know other people have opinions and I never said that people can't have differing ones.

YOU'VE BEEN CONSTANTLY IMPLYING IT IN THIS ENTIRE ARGUMENT.

 

You bring up such weird points that no one ever said, if I had to hazard a guess I'd say you don't quite understand what's going on.

I said them. Just then. They were my speculations on the argument as a whole in which you're an idiot who won't listen to reason and I'm just being a broken record saying the same thing over and over thart you refuse to listen to.

If anyone were to get a warning I'd say it would be you, you've gotten so worked up over this, it's quite rude.

We're BOTH being so incredibly off topic. We BOTH deserve the warning. Don't pretend I deserve it just because I point out how god damn stupid you can be while you refuse to listen and also help to continue this idiotic argument.

 

As for CoD, I don't care for it but it's obviously doing something right to be so successful.

Wait, so it isn't undeniably awesome? You're not fangasming over it even though it's super popular?

 

And what about Justin Beiber? You ignored that earlier. >: O

[Shradow]

I could deny the earth wasn't round, but that wouldn't mean it's not a fact.

 

I haven't implied that I don't accept other opinions, that's merely what you've decided to infer.

 

And by those words that's not what I was saying.

"Mario games don't suck. My liking of those games aren't the reason his games don't suck."

That is what I was saying.

 

You said, "So because it wasn't an opinion it doesn't suck?". I never said facts couldn't suck.

 

As for Justin Beiber, I must've missed your comment. I'm indifferent about him, but if he outright sucked he wouldn't be so popular or liked.

 

I've been listening this whole time. If I weren't I wouldn't be able to continue because I woudn't have known that you had said anything, nor would I be replying to each part.

[Desu the Blue Nerd]

I could deny the earth wasn't round, but that wouldn't mean it's not a fact.

Because if you denied it you'd just be an idiot. You can't deny the Earth is round. It is round. I'ts undeniable! Your argument sucks! That'as also undeniable. Do you really not know what the difference between an opinion and fact is?

 

I haven't implied that I don't accept other opinions, that's merely what you've decided to infer.

THEN WHY ARE YOU ARGUING WITH ME ABOUT WHAT MY OPINION IS?! Why are you arguing against my opinion and claiming yours as a fact yet still claim to accept other opinions? You're contradicting yourself!

 

And by those words that's not what I was saying.

"Mario games don't suck. My liking of those games aren't the reason his games don't suck."

That is what I was saying.

You should have hjust said that instead of the way in which it means something completely different! And I've been saying I don't like the games and in my opinion they suck. WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING?!

 

You said, "So because it wasn't an opinion it doesn't suck?". I never said facts couldn't suck.

*Facedesk.* I didn't say anything along those lines. I was only questioning your logic.

 

As for Justin Beiber, I must've missed your comment. I'm indifferent about him, but if he outright sucked he wouldn't be so popular.

Okay, look him up and listen to his music. Then gain an opinion on him instead of pretending to just not give a damn in hopes that you're indifference is actually a decent argument. Guess what? IT ISN'T!

 

I've been listening this whole time. If I weren't I wouldn't be able to continue because I woudn't have known that you had said anything, nor would I be replying to each part.

But you're really not! That's the funny thing about this! You're ignoring all logic and replacing it with your own stupidity! Most of your replies aren't even semi-decent and you're just talking so you still seem like you have something to say but you never actually did! I don't know if I should be laughing or be feeling pity for you.

[Reginanos]

Ok, let's try and settle this.

Mario as a video game series is popular: This is a fact, even if we disagree, we must still acknowledge that it is one.

Desperado doesn't like Mario: This is an opinion, and we must respect it whether we agree with it or not.

Shradow likes Mario: This is an opinion, and we must respect it whether we agree with it or not.

Hope this clears everything up and we can get back on track to what this thread is about.

[Doc.]

What about Zelda, Alan Wake, Heavy Rain, Borderlands, Mario, Red Dead Redemption, Metro 2033, Fallout, God of War, etc.

 

No offense, but I don't really see what your point unless you only play games focused on multiplayer, such as, not to tire out an overused an example, Call of Duty. Or Battlefield. Or Halo. See what I mean? I don't expect to get the same single player experience playing MAG as I do Super Mario Galaxy.

Mario and Zelda are NINTENDO, not SONY or Microsoft.

[david ice]

As someone who's PS3 won't connect to the f*cking internet, I have to focus on offline stuff. CoD4 is far superior to MW2 or 3 in my opinion, yet this has nothing to do with the hardware of the consoles, it has to do with the amount of effort put in by the developers.

I know your pain buddy, my 360 will not connect to xbox live no matter what i do.

[Shradow]

We're still talking because you keep asking questions. It would be rude of me not to answer.

 

I do, in fact, know the difference between a fact and an opinion. The earth being round is as undeniable as Mario not sucking.

 

You keep saying I'm claiming my opinion as fact, but if you'd been listening I haven't been. I like Mario. That is my opinion. Mario has been in hundreds of games and has sold millions of dollars and is hugely popular and liked. That is the fact that I have been saying.

 

I said it in a way that was completely the same, just using different words. You just misunderstood what I said before so I had to spell it out for you.

 

I have listened to his music and I don't care one way or the other. I'm not pretending not to give a damn, I honestly don't give a damn, and I'm not hoping for anything.

 

You're doing the same thing here. You yell and insult but it's all just opinionated bullshit, and that's all you ever do around here.