Hip-hop.

[John A. Zoidberg]

There's probably been a topic before, but it's likely past a month old and I really don't wanna get yelled at for necrobumping.

 

Anyways, discuss your favorite hip-hop artists.

My personal favorites are

, Cannibal Ox, and

.

*WARNING* there is some graphic language in the Aesop Rock. I forget about CO and MF, but I'm fairly certain they're clean. Listen at your own risk if you have strict parents or something.

 

Also, don't come to this topic just to tell us that you "listen to everything except for hip-hop," since:

1. You likely haven't heard some of the better hip-hop artists, and

2. It's extremely irrelevant.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Can't say enough about the genre and try to uncover as much of it as I can, so many names I'd recommend that have induced all kinds of delirium and wonder. I'll give a list of my favorite rappers/groups and a song by each to give a general representation of what they're like (arranged in alphabetical order.)

 

Canibus - Master Thesis

De La Soul - Eye Know

MC Shan - Time for Us to Defend Ourselves

 

If you find yourself with some spare time I'd HIGHLY recommend any of those.

['tyleR]

Hova. All day. Every day.

 

Seriously, just listen to Black Album, or American Gangster. AG especially, is some raw s***.

 

Tech N9ne, Odd Future, Childish Gambino, Gangstarr, Erick Sermon, Juicy J, Pete Rock & CL Smooth....so many favorites.

[Forums and Card Games]

Hip Hop is one of those things I listen to when I am in the mood. I dont go throw my book bag on the ground going maybe while listening to Eminem ill cut myself. And my favorite group is BAD MEETS EVIL which is Royce da 5'9'' and Eminem. But other than that, I listen to Watsky, EpicLloyd, ERB, Lonely Island, YFM (are they even a rap group? idts) some Lil Wayne some Drake some Dr. Dre, Destorm, Dumbfounded, Nelly and people like that but I am the type of person who likes all music, so if anyone hands me a song to listen to, Id listen to it.

[Dismal Euphony]

MOST hip-hop is just terrible, honestly (particularly the s*** they play on the radio). Though, some older and lesser-known rappers are good. When it comes to rap/hip-hop, I typically listen to: Childish Gambino, Nas, OutKast, Bone, Thugs & Harmony, (classic) Eminem, Tech N9ne, Lupe Fiasco, B.o.B (very, VERY underrated), Royce da 5'9 (his Bad Meets Evil album with Eminem was f***ing awesome, Nelly (his Country Grammar album was good), A Tribe Called Quest, etc.

 

I can't stand most Drake songs; Lil Wayne is atrocious and needs to keep his mouth shut at all times; Mac Miller is annoying after one song; Meek Millz (even though we're from the same area and I've met him before he was huge) needs to stop screaming in every song; Waka Flaka has yet to release a song that sounds like he's speaking English; Odd Future was cool for like 20 minutes. They were a breath of fresh air, but their music gets really old REALLY quickly. I noticed Aesop Rock mentioned earlier... I will keep my thoughts on him to myself...

[.:Blu:.]

The current state of hip-hop is depressing really with things like Young Money ruining the game.

 

Anyways, I listen to Eminem (doesn't matter classic or new, I'm a hardcore fan and his style to me is as sick as ever), Slaughterhouse, Bad Meets Evil, Horseshoe G.A.N.G (so underrated), Yelawolf, D12, Childish Gambino, Tech N9ne, Jay-Z.

 

Currently my favorite hip-hop song atm:

[Forums and Card Games]

herz my favorite hip hop song out there now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYiOXv3M5Vc

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Why am I the only one with a problem with Eminem? He doesn't even sound good, at all. Just an unpleasant, bitter, mysogynistic dude raging all the time. How many hundreds of millions does he have? Dude's career needs to end.

 

Aesop Rock is good.

Gangstarr is incredible.

Jay-Z is annoying as f***.

Lil B is a genius.

Lupe Fiasco's alright but needs to get over himself. Like, maybe he should rap about something other than how he absolutely refuses to be a sell-out and dumb down his music when he doesn't have anything particularly novel to say to begin with.

Nas is incredible. He's not what he was in the 90's, but stuff like

is still winsome.

Nelly is s***. KRS-One slapped him around for days.

Waka Flocka is okay. He barrages you with interesting noises, particularly gunshots, while grinning like a goon.

Young Money know that people love to hate them and therein lies their success.

 

Fast doesn't necessarily mean good. I've never really felt Bone Thugs, Tech N9ne, Twista, Yelawolf, etc. Busta Rhymes does it the best. He uses it in moderation and gives you the feeling that he's not trying too hard or doing it because he's mad. He's just having fun.

 

This song, for example, is ingenius:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrghtXWfVYM

[Dismal Euphony]

The fact that you said Jay-Z is annoying, then had the audacity to call Aesop Rock "good" and Lil B "a genius"... I don't even have words for that. Though, I shouldn't expect much more from someone named "Lil Wayne!", I suppose... (I'm just going to cross my fingers that it's a troll post)

 

Evidently, you haven't listened to much Eminem--considering you only note on the fact that he's "unpleasant and bitter." Eminem's flow and wordplay is unrivaled by anyone currently out today.

 

Twista and Yelawolf are just relatively bad. Tech N9ne does get a little irritating on occasion because all of his flows are double-time, but he's still a more talented rapper, imo, than most rappers out today.

 

I'm surprised no one has brought up Jedi Mind Tricks yet. Lyrically, those dudes are talented as hell.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Flow and wordplay are like weapons. They can be used for good or in the spirit of anger and bitterness. The latter taints the character of the music. However well-crafted the lyrics might be, they're crafted in the spirit of anger and bitterness, which taints it and makes me not want to listen. Dude needs to calm down.

 

And I disagree that Eminem's flow and wordplay is unrivaled by anyone currently out today. Canibus, El-P, Immortal Technique, Jean Grae, Killer Mike, Nas, Talib Kweli, and most of the Wu-Tang Clan all currently have equal or better lyrics and flow than Eminem. And I'm sure there're plenty others too out there too, those are just off the top of my head at 4AM and Hip-Hop's an extremely vast genre with hoards of unsung underground heroes.

 

I don't see why you're so passionate in your dislike of Aesop Rock. He's a relatively obscure dude with refreshing lyrical abilities and messages. I liked No Regrets and Pigs.

 

As for Jay-Z, he's given wonderful beats but meets them with arrogant snobbery and unremarkable lyrics. I never understood the appeal.

 

I wouldn't expect you to appreciate Lil B, but let's just say that he's everything Hip-Hop is supposed to be.

[Tormented]

I don't specifically like Hip-Hop I do however, like certain Artists, however I'm not too sure if you would call them Hip-Hop artists, nevertheless.

 

Hoodie Allen

Labyrinth

Wiz Khalifa

[Dismal Euphony]

Flow and wordplay are like weapons. They can be used for good or in the spirit of anger and bitterness. The latter taints the character of the music. However well-crafted the lyrics might be, they're crafted in the spirit of anger and bitterness, which taints it and makes me not want to listen. Dude needs to calm down.

 

And I disagree that Eminem's flow and wordplay is unrivaled by anyone currently out today. Canibus, El-P, Immortal Technique, Jean Grae, Killer Mike, Nas, Talib Kweli, and most of the Wu-Tang Clan all currently have equal or better lyrics and flow than Eminem. And I'm sure there're plenty others too out there too, those are just off the top of my head at 4AM and Hip-Hop's an extremely vast genre with hoards of unsung underground heroes.

 

I don't see why you're so passionate in your dislike of Aesop Rock. He's a relatively obscure dude with refreshing lyrical abilities and messages. I liked No Regrets and Pigs.

 

As for Jay-Z, he's given wonderful beats but meets them with arrogant snobbery and unremarkable lyrics. I never understood the appeal.

 

I wouldn't expect you to appreciate Lil B, but let's just say that he's everything Hip-Hop is supposed to be.

 

I hope you realize Lil B is a troll and purposely makes terrible music. And he's "everything hip-hop should be?" So hip-hop is SUPPOSED to purposely be a joke and terrible? I'm sorry, but I don't see that logic.

 

Jay-Z's "arrogant snobbery" is just a lyrical front. Jay-Z isn't just a rapper. He's a business man. He's eons ahead of half of the rappers out today, and he always has been. So of course his lyrics are going to come across as "arrogant snobbery."

 

I don't like ANYTHING about Aesop Rock. I dislike his flow, I hate his voice (my hate for his voice is only rivaled by my hate for Lil Wayne's voice), and I don't think he's all that great of a lyricist. He's just another mediocre MC.

[.:Blu:.]

Flow and wordplay are like weapons. They can be used for good or in the spirit of anger and bitterness. The latter taints the character of the music. However well-crafted the lyrics might be, they're crafted in the spirit of anger and bitterness, which taints it and makes me not want to listen. Dude needs to calm down.

 

And I disagree that Eminem's flow and wordplay is unrivaled by anyone currently out today. Canibus, El-P, Immortal Technique, Jean Grae, Killer Mike, Nas, Talib Kweli, and most of the Wu-Tang Clan all currently have equal or better lyrics and flow than Eminem. And I'm sure there're plenty others too out there too, those are just off the top of my head at 4AM and Hip-Hop's an extremely vast genre with hoards of unsung underground heroes.

 

I don't see why you're so passionate in your dislike of Aesop Rock. He's a relatively obscure dude with refreshing lyrical abilities and messages. I liked No Regrets and Pigs.

 

As for Jay-Z, he's given wonderful beats but meets them with arrogant snobbery and unremarkable lyrics. I never understood the appeal.

 

I wouldn't expect you to appreciate Lil B, but let's just say that he's everything Hip-Hop is supposed to be.

 

Taints the music? No, that gives the music more life. It provides emotion. Something that Lil Wayne's monotonous songs does not have. Eminem brings a level of intensity and aggressiveness that is rarely seen in today's industries, and he is the best when it comes to that style. So no, Lil Wayne's career needs to end cause his music is crap and most people that listen to him or any other Young Money artists are not major hip-hop fans.

 

You clearly do not understand Jay-Z either. This line from the song Renegade explains it perfectly:

"Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?"

 

Lil B is everything that hip-hop is supposed to be? Okay, that and the fact that you listen to Lil Wayne has cause you to lost all credibility...

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Jay-Z's "arrogant snobbery" is just a lyrical front.

 

An unpleasant "lyrical front" at the forefront of all of his music. If he were genuinely better than everyone else, why would he feel such a pressing need to keep reminding us?

 

Jay-Z isn't just a rapper. He's a business man.

 

So? That doesn't make him any better of a rapper. It just means he can get better production to botch horribly with his trademark stuck-up douchebag sound, which continues to resonate throughout every minute crevice of the airwaves.

 

He's eons ahead of half of the rappers out today, and he always has been. So of course his lyrics are going to come across as "arrogant snobbery."

 

I hope you realize Lil B is a troll and purposely makes terrible music. And he's "everything hip-hop should be?" So hip-hop is SUPPOSED to purposely be a joke and terrible? I'm sorry, but I don't see that logic.

 

Is Hip-Hop supposed to be used solely for either venting rage or flaunting ego? Feel free to answer in the affirmative, I'm sure you'd have plenty of people to back you in this day and age. Just ask yourself why humor is such a horrible thing and why it needs to be purged as if it were some sort of epidemic.

 

Hip-Hop was originally about getting people moving, whether by telling a story in such a way that would make people want to dance or by using humor to ease people into their environment and have a good time. That's what Lil B does. He has thousands of songs, hundreds of which he's made into music videos. Yes, part of what he does is satirize rap's current state. Is that so wrong? Is there not a point to be made there? Tell me why that's so bad.

 

I don't like ANYTHING about Aesop Rock. I dislike his flow, I hate his voice (my hate for his voice is only rivaled by my hate for Lil Wayne's voice), and I don't think he's all that great of a lyricist. He's just another mediocre MC.

 

I feel the same way about Jay-Z. I'm not a huge fan of Aesop Rock or anything, I just don't think he's big enough of an issue to be worth demonizing.

 

You clearly do not understand Jay-Z either. This line from the song Renegade explains it perfectly:

"Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?"

 

Lil B is everything that hip-hop is supposed to be? Okay, that and the fact that you listen to Lil Wayne has cause you to lost all credibility...

Where did I say I listened to Lil Wayne? Nothing "has cause me to lost" anything. Don't jump to conclusions, it's not like you've listened to 1% of Lil B's material. And I have heard a lot of Jay-Z and Eminem, not just because it's impossible for me not to have given how ubiquitous they are, but because I really have TRIED to like them given the number of people who do, I've TRIED to find some redeeming feature in their rapping and I just can't. The best parts of their music are their beats.

 

Taints the music? No, that gives the music more life. It provides emotion.

 

The type of "emotion" I don't understand why anyone would want more of in their lives given what a humorless place today's world is already. If Eminem's going to be such a rageaholic, he should at least direct his rage to issues that are actually outrageous, like poverty and massive imbalances in power among different groups of people. Instead, he just rants about how much he hates women and how much people hate him for who he is when they clearly don't and how much of a saint he's been in his struggle with his Vicodin-popping internal demons. To him but for the grace of God do I take seriously.

 

One one of the songs from the 1988 tape, an amateurish Eminem spewed hateful venom at black women:

"All the girls I like to bone have big butts - no they don't

'Cause I don't like that n****r s***

I'm just here to make a bigger hit"

 

Eminem later explained that he wrote the song out of anger, having gone through a nasty break-up with his black girlfriend.

[Night]

Why am I the only one with a problem with Eminem? He doesn't even sound good, at all. Just an unpleasant, bitter, mysogynistic dude raging all the time. How many hundreds of millions does he have? Dude's career needs to end.

 

This.

 

Albeit I used to be a big fan of him back in the day when his lyrics meant something, but seriously now he's just went far too mainstream and his 'fans' are kids who feel obligated to enjoy his music because he's a so called 'legend'. Nahh f*** that, his career should have ended back when it meant something.

[chairman ali]

Lowkey

Logic

The Narcicyst

Wu-Tang Clan - Protect ya' Neck

Army of the Pharaoh - Seven/Battle Cry/Bloody Tears/Spaz out

Jedi Mind Tricks - EVERY GOD DAMN SONG

Jus' Allah

Nas - Film

Vinnie Paz

Diabolic

Immortal Technique

Mos' Def

Shabazz the Disciple

Killah Priest

Insectah Deck

[danielhill1]

what about old school artists guys?