Jake the Sage Posted September 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Actually Dane I'd have to disagree with you on Sonic. He, to me, isn't that broken of a character even if a lot of his moves look the same. Despite that they really only to the same thing which isn't a lot and he can actually be grabbed while doing the attacks; I've had it done to me so no one cal claim it is impossible. Beyond that, yeah he is hard to kill people with but at the same time if you know how to play him right he can prove very difficult to knock out. That actually goes with a lot of characters on Brawl. For instance Wolf. The guidebook says that due to him being slow the best strategy for someone going against him would be to constantly stay in close and rush attack him. Yet my brother, no matter how much I hate it, is incredibly good with Wolf and is an excellent up close combatant with the character. In fact he has the distance Wolf's sideways move goes so down pact he can use it and hit you right as it is finishing. Because of this we have to adopt the hit-and-run-the-f*ck-away strategy if we plan on beating him. Or get lucky . . . very f*cking lucky . . . >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headmaster Monokuma Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 FIRST: I said Sonic was bad, not broken. [quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1347762046' post='6025915'] Actually Dane I'd have to disagree with you on Sonic. He, to me, isn't that broken of a character even if a lot of his moves look the same.[/quote] Said that gave him an ADVANTAGE, not broke him. Let's you fake out your opponent and play mind games. [quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1347762046' post='6025915'] Despite that they really only to the same thing which isn't a lot and he can actually be grabbed while doing the attacks; I've had it done to me so no one cal claim it is impossible.[/quote] Some of his attacks have a huge lag period, of course it's easy to grab him out of them. [quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1347762046' post='6025915'] Beyond that, yeah he is hard to kill people with but at the same time if you know how to play him right he can prove very difficult to knock out.[/quote] He's not hard to knock, you just have to play more carefully then you would against other characters. You don't go to him. He goes to you. [quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1347762046' post='6025915'] That actually goes with a lot of characters on Brawl. For instance Wolf. The guidebook says that due to him being slow the best strategy for someone going against him would be to constantly stay in close and rush attack him.[/quote] Depends on the character you play. If you're using a fast character, play a hit and run strategy. Avoid his attacks and hit him hard when he's vulnerable. [quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1347762046' post='6025915'] Yet my brother, no matter how much I hate it, is incredibly good with Wolf and is an excellent up close combatant with the character. [/quote] That's Wolf's entire playstyle. If he isn't playing close combat with Wolf he's doing it wrong. [quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1347762046' post='6025915'] In fact he has the distance Wolf's sideways move goes so down pact he can use it and hit you right as it is finishing. [/quote] If you're on the ground when he uses it, don't jump. Please don't jump. If you're in the air, learn the timing of your character's air dodge and laugh. [quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1347762046' post='6025915'] Because of this we have to adopt the hit-and-run-the-f*ck-away strategy if we plan on beating him. Or get lucky . . . very f*cking lucky . . . >> [/quote] Believe I mentioned the hit and run away above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted September 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Okay yeah sorry I misread bad as broken, sorry. But what about being able to grab Sonic when you are playing Donkey Kong? How often would that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headmaster Monokuma Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Who the hell plays Donkey seriously? Besides, if they do, they shouldn't be focusing on DK's grabs except for his Back Throw. His Up Smash, Up Aerial, Down Aerial, and Headbutt are his best assists, along with his Giant Punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 [quote name='Rumisiel' timestamp='1347763381' post='6025925'] Who the hell plays Donkey seriously? [/quote] Usually if I'm too hipster to play as any of the good characters, I play as DK. He's actually kinda good. His headbutt move combined with his ground pound deals a sh*t ton of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headmaster Monokuma Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 [quote name='Thar Ablaze' timestamp='1347763665' post='6025926'] Usually if I'm too hipster to play as any of the good characters, I play as DK. He's actually kinda good. His headbutt move combined with his ground pound deals a sh*t ton of damage. [/quote] >Seriously >Hipster But yeah, he's not BAD, but he's not exactly good. He has some good moves, but he's especially easy to chain grab and he's a real easy target to hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 [quote name='Rumisiel' timestamp='1347763831' post='6025928'] >Seriously >Hipster [/quote] [img]http://www.krizna.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/yao-ming-meme_facebook_1-300x300.jpg[/img] But seriously, I've crippled a lot of people with that headbutt move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted September 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 My brother charges up the Giant Punch then uses that so you can't run away. It gets kind of annoying when he can pull it off a lot. Other than that I am currently more interested in figuring out how to actually hack into the game and change character textures around so I can upload new ones. Funky Kong over Donkey Kong, Deadpool over Snake and the like . . . NOw if anyone else has another topic they'd like to discuss I am open for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted September 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 First things first. I just watched an episode with someone who has split personality disorder, more than one personality inside their head in case someone doesn't know, and I got reminded how weird we are compared to everyone else. Even better was that the guy had a female personality . . . Besides that we have a second update on the events that have happened recently. Not sure if I've told anyone yet but I went to my first writer's club meeting this Monday and I have to say that it was awkward. I mean that in the sense that I was the only person who didn't have a Christian themed writing project- I'm not even speaking about Trio of DEF II. EDIT: What kinds of writing would you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 BUMP Okay so I'm basically half way through the entire plotting of Trio of DEF II. One of the major events is already planned and right now I am working on [spoiler=SPOILERS!]the main enemy attacking[/spoiler] but something just popped into my mind . . . Once I am writing it I'll be able to produce it really quickly, seeing as it is virtually written out already. So I decided, when I've gotten a certain amount finished I would stop and make a "teaser" short story to give everyone. What do you guys think? I already know a part(s) I am going to put in it, two ideas that can't be included in the current story, but what about you guys? Short story! Throw some ideas my way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I have an idea inspired by one of C.C's statuses: The story begins with a once charming slender swordsman, whom fought for money and respect from the community. His brother, an intelligent and experimental mage living in the shadows, became jealous of him because he gets all the women and attention. With this, the mage goes into madness and unleashes a power that has built-up inside him for years, submitting everyone in his path into slavery under his rule, including his own brother. The story begins with his brother escaping the powerful bonds of his own flesh and blood, freeing everyone from the hypnotizing spell, and eliminating the evil that resides in him, the mage. For the record, all my ideas are terrible~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I dunno about short stories, but I already figured out several ways that Ken could've defied the death people thought he had been dealt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I forgot most of them, please if you would Broken remind me? Thar though that is actually good I really can't use it for a short story to introduce/teaser people with Trio of DEF II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 It's quite simple. [spoiler=Three ways] [color=#ffffff]There are a few ways Ken would've done it. Basically, a smart thing to do with the nanotech would be to see how they interact with cells. After a few tests, Ken would've had the confidence to use them in a unique way: Using them to repair nerve endings, allowing for greater thought flow. After a test, he most likely would have used them on himself to improve mental faculties so he could make even better nanotech. Further, due to the urgency, he would have used some nanotech to keep him mentally active and alert in order to keep working. Through this, he would have figured that Creator would probably backstab him, and after converting his nanotech to a different frequency to Creator's controller, a few things could then occur.[/color] [color=#ffffff]1) He could have used the nanotech to create a functional duplicate of himself, vis vital fluids. Using a nanotech running on a remote frequency, he could have controlled the duplicate when confronting Creator, resulting in the death of the duplicate and the controller nanotech. With the security of being dead, the real Ken could have easily fled with the nanotech in his brian being off Creator's grid. With the manner of the duplicate's death, the autopsy couldn't even show bodily fluids, due to the horrible radiation no doubt evaporating them, thus rendering it a dry husk. No assumed dead, Ken could very easily work in the background all he liked, with none being the wiser as no one took a GOOD look at the supposed body.[/color] [color=#ffffff]2) Prior to the encounter, he could have caused a secure connection through nanotech with his own computer system. By first downloading a copy of his brian waves into the computer, he could then leave a constant memory download up until his final moment, in order to retain all memory of what happened in the back-up. And then, the nanotechs under Creator's control would then destroy his body, and the controller linked to the computer. With the death of the controller nanotech, a unit of nanotech that were to respond to its death would activate, downloading Ken's mind into their bodies and fleeing. From there, their function would be to gather organic matter in order to contruct a new body for Ken, though, that leaves the possibility of coming back wrong, which is always fun.[/color] [color=#ffffff]3) Using nanotech under his secure control, he could have anticipated his death and then set some nanotech to begin repairs of his body 24 hours after his death. From there, he could covertly escape where he was being hold and work in the background.[/color] [color=#ffffff]From any of those three plots, he could then begin a plot to get back at Creator is the most humilating way possible: reducing all his prized possessions, and then Creator himself, to nothing.[/color][/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Okay to be honest Broken out of all of those I see the second one being the best. In fact I can easily add that into something else I've been thinking about that . . . yeah . . . okay I might have a good idea going here now. Alright there is now a high chance of you coming back, though not technically alive anymore or even as a human being, but mentally you will continue to exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Oh, I figured that. As a brick joke, there should be an amusing article in the newspaper about how several animals from a zoo in that area suddenly went missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 [quote name='BrokenHeart15' timestamp='1348376528' post='6030188'] As a brick joke, there should be an amusing article in the newspaper about how several animals from a zoo in that area suddenly went missing. [/quote] I don't get it. How would that be relative to anything you've stated before or even be funny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 The function of the nanotech that took Ken's mind and fled was to rebuild his new body from available organic matter, however, he failed to specify [i]which[/i] matter would be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Ah, okay that makes sense now. However I planned on tweaking it a bit and making it where you never regained a body, but that will have to be for later I suppose. It is getting late here so I'm off to bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 It would silly to leave the nanotech as they were or in a computer sysytem. Nanotech aren't exactly eternal and being in a computer has you being subject to wipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 True if you were trapped in a single computer. But now with everything having wireless internet and syncing together a file/program can easily fly around the world with very little resistance and the resistance meet could be hacked through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 But the matter would be keeping yourself together, plus viral interference. Asides, I can't imagine anything more agonizing than being forced to live in a computerized envionment; you'd go nuts from the loneliness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Well you wouldn't be exactly alone, considering you'd be able to converse with people in the real world- almost like a video chat really. Even then you can pop up on someone as an instant message. So you wouldn't be alone at all if you could get in contact with someone with the proper coding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Well, if people were aware of you, there would be some trying to get rid of you. Ken would have to forgo direct contact so Creator didn't learn of his survival. And in order to effectively communicate video chat like, the opposing party would need a microphone and webcam to do so. Granted, being on the web for so long, no doubt Ken would have encountered a fair few viruses, and in the interest of self-preservation he would have consumed them and integrated their programming into him sohe would have more survivability. Course, that would have some negative impact of physical appearance and sanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 [quote name='BrokenHeart15' timestamp='1348471724' post='6030863'] Well, if people were aware of you, there would be some trying to get rid of you. Ken would have to forgo direct contact so Creator didn't learn of his survival. And in order to effectively communicate video chat like, the opposing party would need a microphone and webcam to do so. Granted, being on the web for so long, no doubt Ken would have encountered a fair few viruses, and in the interest of self-preservation he would have consumed them and integrated their programming into him sohe would have more survivability. Course, that would have some negative impact of physical appearance and sanity. [/quote] Granted Creator believes you are already dead, so anything wouldn't be directly linked to you unless he delved into it higher; even then he wouldn't be able to figure out you had uploaded your mind into the internet since he never had a scan of your brain while you were still "alive." Also I have considered everything else you've already stated and included it. What about you Thar? Anything specific you want me to add to your character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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