YCLoveMaker Hotel: We Love You All to Death~!

[Jake the Sage]

Big gay Al? I am actually thinking they'll turn 17 gay and have 18 as some dippy blonde, which she is indeed blonde.

[Desu the Blue Nerd]

[quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1346892797' post='6019920']
I haven't had the time and when someone said they have the entire thing for me to grab I took the chance.. Basically unless I hadn't been given that oppertunity I'd have never gone through with seeing it until a very long time has passed.
[color=#0000CD]At least you're finally getting to it.[/color]
Though to be honest again I don't think I'll be able to use spiral force
[color=#0000CD]Thank god.[/color]

Okay actually I just read it and the answer is absolutely, positively no. I CANNOT use Spiral Energy because it is based on "the power of evolution, symbolized by a drill, generated by DNA-based beings such as humans whose double helix molecular structure". Becaue of that, specifically the latter part, I am unable to use it considering I'm not human and don't even have DNA . . .
[color=#0000CD]Well it's more about having the ability to evolve. Not about being human. Other creatures can do it. Although thinking about what you are you might still not be able to use it.[/color]

So yeah, I can only pilot the mecha.
[color=#0000CD]Seriously, I'll smack you.[/color]

[color=#EE82EE]Wait.....I think [i]I[/i] might be able to use Spiral Power, [/color]
[color=#0000CD]*Raises hand.*[/color]
[color=#EE82EE]but I'm not interested in it at all. [/color]
[color=#0000CD]*Lowers hand.*[/color]
[color=#EE82EE]Unlike Dad I don't go looking for new powers/abilities/skills to add to the ever massing bundle I already have or might have. Give me an old fashioned wooden staff....[/color]
[color=#0000CD]Thank god. This is why you are WAY better than your dad. Well that and because you have boobs.[/color]
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[Jake the Sage]

[quote name='useD Swordsman' timestamp='1346894546' post='6019945']
[color=#0000CD]At least you're finally getting to it.[/color]
[b]Yeah I know, but it still took me a long time. I would like to remind everyone that FMA has been out for a LONG time and I only recently managed to read the entire thing[/b]

[color=#0000CD]Well it's more about having the ability to evolve. Not about being human. Other creatures can do it. Although thinking about what you are you might still not be able [/color]
[color=#0000CD]to use it.[/color]
[b]I can[/b][b]'t use it because I can't evolve in the sense they are speaking. I absorb things into me, wither it be skills or what not, but still that it not truly evolving.[/b]

So yeah, I can only pilot the mecha.
[color=#0000CD]Seriously, I'll smack you.[/color]
[b]Why would you do that? I like piloting mechas sometimes . . . and from what I see it isn't that hard in Gurren Laggen.[/b]

[color=#0000CD]Thank god. This is why you are WAY better than your dad. Well that and because you have boobs.[/color]
[color=#ee82ee][smacks Desu] That is all I have to say about "you have boobs" you insensitive jerk[/color]
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[The Warden]

And that's why you possess no potential Jake.

[Desu the Blue Nerd]

[quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1346895424' post='6019964']
[color=#0000CD]At least you're finally getting to it.[/color]
[b]Yeah I know, but it still took me a long time. I would like to remind everyone that FMA has been out for a LONG time and I only recently managed to read the entire thing[/b]
[b][color=#0000CD][color=#0000CD]That still took way too long.[/color][/color][/b]

[color=#0000CD]Well it's more about having the ability to evolve. Not about being human. Other creatures can do it. Although thinking about what you are you might still not be able [/color]
[color=#0000CD]to use it.[/color]
[b]I can[/b][b]'t use it because I can't evolve in the sense they are speaking. I absorb things into me, wither it be skills or what not, but still that it not truly evolving.[/b]
[b][color=#0000CD]Just say you copy stuff. :I[/color][/b]

So yeah, I can only pilot the mecha.
[color=#0000CD]Seriously, I'll smack you.[/color]
[b]Why would you do that? I like piloting mechas sometimes . . . and from what I see it isn't that hard in Gurren Laggen.[/b]
[b][color=#0000CD][color=#0000CD]Actually, it's pretty hard unless you posses some spiral power.[/color][/color][/b]

[color=#0000CD]Thank god. This is why you are WAY better than your dad. Well that and because you have boobs.[/color]
[color=#EE82EE][smacks Desu] That is all I have to say about "you have boobs" you insensitive jerk[/color]
[b][color=#0000CD]Owwy...[/color][/b]
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[quote name='BrokenHeart15' timestamp='1346895500' post='6019966']
And that's why you possess no potential Jake.
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[color=#0000CD]He is the Heir of Void after all. [/color]

[Jake the Sage]

[quote name='BrokenHeart15' timestamp='1346895500' post='6019966']
And that's why you possess no potential Jake.
[/quote]

Well by definition potential is:

[b] potential[/b]


[b] po·ten·tial [puh-ten-shuhl][/b]

[color=#333333]adjective[/color]
[color=#333333]1.[/color] possible, as opposed to actual: the potential uses of nuclear energy.
2.[color=#333333] capable[/color] of being or becoming: a potential danger to safety.
3.Grammar . [color=#333333]expressing[/color] possibility: the potential subjunctive in Latin; the [color=#333333]potential[/color] [color=#333333]use[/color] [color=#333333]of[/color] [color=#333333]can[/color] in I can [color=#333333]go.[/color]

By one I cannot fit, but the definition can be applied to me mainly because of the example. I can easily become a danger to safety in many places, though most of the time I'd not; however the potential always remains.

[hr]

I am a void . . . mainly existing of consciousness and universal energy. I only have a body because otherwise it is impossible to speak with people; unless you are a great psychic that is.

And yeah I suppose I can't pilot Gurren Laggen mechas after all. That sucks . . . so in that dimension I can't do sh*t (XD) Yet another place I become more or less powerless! LOL

DF copying means that they remains the same, I copy some and utilize others in different ways or even combine them

[The Warden]

That's just an example, you are not capable of becoming anything. You do not express possibility either. What you do is possible only because someone else did it.

[Jake the Sage]

[quote name='BrokenHeart15' timestamp='1346896475' post='6019983']
That's just an example, you are not capable of becoming anything. You do not express possibility either. What you do is possible only because someone else did it.
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Alright I'll give you that a majority of my powers do fall under that catagory. But let me as this. How do you guys come up with your powers if not by having copied off of someone else? After all if "everything has been done before" then doesn't that mean we're [i]all[/i] copying off of someone else?

[The Warden]

Maybe, but we're not [i]directly[/i] copying, that's the difference. To make something yours, you have to take your own spin on it, even if done before. I utilize a wide variety of powers because I know how they work and thus am able to take my own unique spin on using em. Above all, I use them because I can see the potential in them.

My greatest strength is and always will be knowledge. I know the strengths and potential in abilities, and I also know their weaknesses. Would I use an absolute power? No, because what fun is there without the risk of losing?

[Jake the Sage]

[quote name='BrokenHeart15' timestamp='1346896814' post='6019995']
Maybe, but we're not [i]directly[/i] copying, that's the difference. To make something yours, you have to take your own spin on it, even if done before. I utilize a wide variety of powers because I know how they work and thus am able to take my own unique spin on using em. Above all, I use them because I can see the potential in them.

My greatest strength is and always will be knowledge. I know the strengths and potential in abilities, and I also know their weaknesses. Would I use an absolute power? No, because what fun is there without the risk of losing?
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And yet what if I combine powers from the places I have been too into combinations that have not been utilized before and use them in different ways? Would that not be the same as what you had already stated?

But what is absolute power? Something that cannot be defeated? Then in a roleplay fight you would never be able to use it at all so there is no point in learning it at all unless you want to be a jerk. I don't even know if I or anyone else has an "absolute power"

[The Warden]

But if they're not yours, you're basically just doing what nay crossover would do. If they're not yours to begin with, combining them still doesn't make them yours.

[Desu the Blue Nerd]

[quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1346896606' post='6019989']
Alright I'll give you that a majority of my powers do fall under that catagory. But let me as this. How do you guys come up with your powers if not by having copied off of someone else? After all if "everything has been done before" then doesn't that mean we're [i]all[/i] copying off of someone else?
[/quote]

[color=#0000CD]Well having a complete resistance to only bullets was originally a joke that had been made in an MMO I used to play. Not just something I saw on TV and thought was cool. And my weapon "spawning" does have a bit of a twist (ignoring that although seeming not very original it's not something I've actually seen much of before I started using it) seeing as how it's just transporting created weapons from a secret armory to my current location which would also in turn give me the weakness that if I'm not in the normal dimension I can't spawn any weaopons. But the idea was more of "hey, I like weapons so why not be able to use them a lot and focus my power on them."[/color]

[color=#0000CD]And yes, pretty much all ideas have been used already but there's still an attempt to be original. Not just blatantly copying.[/color]
[quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1346897029' post='6019998']
And yet what if I combine powers from the places I have been too into combinations that have not been utilized before and use them in different ways? Would that not be the same as what you had already stated?
[color=#0000CD]No. For him other things he sees is mere inspiration. He doesn't just go "lolshadowclonejutsuandbecauseIsawitontvtheycanusealchemyaswell." As he said he twists things around and actually makes it his own.[/color]

But what is absolute power? Something that cannot be defeated? Then in a roleplay fight you would never be able to use it at all so there is no point in learning it at all unless you want to be a jerk. I don't even know if I or anyone else has an "absolute power"
[color=#0000CD]Well absolute power is obviously godmodding. He's basically saying he has good sportsmanship.[/color]
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[The Warden]

Actually Desu, it is plausible to make an Absolute Power without godmoding; but that's just being dickish.

[Jake the Sage]

I have good sportsmanship DF. I don't use Shadow Clones and considering the aclehmy part I actually put a lot of thought into it and it isn't something I can easily use without risking being beaten quite easily; also I can't do the same thing as the Alchemist brothers do where they clap their hands together and use alchemy without having the circles draw. I have to have the circles as well as the preconditions for my type of alchemy.

And I don't just see it and decide to use it. I have to consider if I can actually use it and if it fits with how I am. Spiral Energy and Water Bending for instance.

[Desu the Blue Nerd]

[quote name='BrokenHeart15' timestamp='1346898146' post='6020014']
Actually Desu, it is plausible to make an Absolute Power without godmoding; but that's just being dickish.
[/quote]

[color=#0000CD]How so?[/color]
[quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1346898203' post='6020015']
I have good sportsmanship DF. I don't use Shadow Clones
[color=#0000CD]You have used them before. I've seen you use them. ._.;[/color]
and considering the aclehmy part I actually put a lot of thought into it and it isn't something I can easily use without risking being beaten quite easily; also I can't do the same thing as the Alchemist brothers do where they clap their hands together and use alchemy without having the circles draw. I have to have the circles as well as the preconditions for my type of alchemy
[color=#0000CD]So it's basically the same thing except slightly harder to use?[/color]
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[Jake the Sage]

Okay so I use it in the most extreme cases, when I am certain I have no other way out and have had the foresight to think of it. But other than that I don't have much use for shadow clones or see the point in making one when they vanish after one hit. As for the alchemy it requires everything normal alchemy does, energy and a incantation circle, as well as it's own preresiquets to utilize it; in fact I have to still look up the incantation circles to do simple magic, I had to memorize my incantation circle and that is the only one I can draw from memory.

[The Warden]

Either by intelligent use of a power or a combination of several, it is possible. Wind and Water for example.

[Thar]

My power feels so monotonous. I feel like I should branch out some more composite abilities.

Moreover, are there really only 3 volumes of that manga Jake is reading? I read the first chapter.

[The Warden]

Now come on Thar, I didn't waste all that time with you just so you can go get a different power set.

[Desu the Blue Nerd]

[quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1346898527' post='6020018']
Okay so I use it in the most extreme cases, when I am certain I have no other way out and have had the foresight to think of it. But other than that I don't have much use for shadow clones or see the point in making one when they vanish after one hit. As for the alchemy it requires everything normal alchemy does, energy and a incantation circle, as well as it's own preresiquets to utilize it; in fact I have to still look up the incantation circles to do simple magic, I had to memorize my incantation circle and that is the only one I can draw from memory.
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[color=#0000CD]I don't see how any of this really proves your point.[/color]
[quote name='BrokenHeart15' timestamp='1346898533' post='6020019']
Either by intelligent use of a power or a combination of several, it is possible. Wind and Water for example.
[/quote]

[color=#0000CD]I don't really understand the example but to the first part I think I see what you could possibly mean.[/color]

[Jake the Sage]

[quote name='BrokenHeart15' timestamp='1346898533' post='6020019']
Either by intelligent use of a power or a combination of several, it is possible. Wind and Water for example.
[/quote]

If you're referring to water bending I have no aptitude for it at all. I cannot use it to move anything larger than a puddle of water and then I can do nothing more than hold it or move it around a bit; even then breaking my concentration causes it to drop to the ground. As for wind control I am quite adept at it but the most I can do is make small tornadoes and nothing more. Choking people by pulling the air out of their lungs is beyond me . . .

We've already discussed why I cannot use Spiral Energy.

[The Warden]

In most bodies, oxygen and water are vital for survival. Using wind, you can suck the very air from their lungs and let them suffocate as you pull the air away from them, leaving them in an empty space.

Likewise, you can control the water in their bodies to turn them into a living puppet, as the muscles, the brain, practically everything in a living body has water in it. Or, you can merely pull the water out via whatever pathways you choose, leaving them a dried husk.

[Jake the Sage]

[quote name='useD Swordsman' timestamp='1346898778' post='6020025']
[color=#0000CD]I don't see how any of this really proves your point.[/color]
[/quote]

You states, more or less, that all I have to do is watch it and I can use it. I was pointing out that I cannot and some abilities are beyond me

[Thar]

Not a different power-set, Broken. Just a way to make composites of my elements for a wider range of abilities.

[Jake the Sage]

[quote name='BrokenHeart15' timestamp='1346898912' post='6020028']
In most bodies, oxygen and water are vital for survival. Using wind, you can suck the very air from their lungs and let them suffocate as you pull the air away from them, leaving them in an empty space.

Likewise, you can control the water in their bodies to turn them into a living puppet, as the muscles, the brain, practically everything in a living body has water in it. Or, you can merely pull the water out via whatever pathways you choose, leaving them a dried husk.
[/quote]

Again Broken I've already stated the maximum skill I can use in manipulating wind as well as explaining my inability to use water in any sense but the most basic

EDIT: D*mn it Thar! Don't ninja me so my posts get seperated into two tiny little ones (XD)