YCLoveMaker Hotel: We Love You All to Death~!

[Lt. Colonel Remo]

We've had that done in the past so I'm just nipping it in the butt.

bud**

 

Like a flower bud

 

AND SO WHAT IF I SPELLED CAEDA AS KAEDA

 

SAME THING

 

THE LETTER C HAS NO REAL PURPOSE ANYWAYS

[Jake the Sage]

Dear lord why does the conversation I can provide the most accurate and useful information to happen when I'm not around?

 

>Black was fed up. He reported.

>Pika was fed up with him too. She saw it as a threat. She demodded him.

 

Whatever else any of you two said goes into the field of subjectivity. That just now is exactly, simply, all that went down during that event.

 

Well that's it? Should have known.

 

I'll admit I hate that Black is gone but at least he does come back around every so often.

 

*bud

 

Like a flower bud

 

It can be said either way man

 

[hr]

 

Now that's over I want to discuss a new topic I've been talking about for a while with someone else.

What does everyone thing the legitimacy of holding a role play tournament for YCM is?

[Kazooie]

What does everyone thing the legitimacy of holding a role play tournament for YCM is?

 

100% chance of absolute failure.

[Jake the Sage]

100% chance of absolute failure.

 

Well if people were left to try and decide the matches for themselves yeah I understand that.

 

However what if there was at least three judges viewing the match and specific rules the contestants had to abide by?

[Mugendramon]

Well if people were left to try and decide the matches for themselves yeah I understand that.

 

However what if there was at least three judges viewing the match and specific rules the contestants had to abide by?

 

100% chance of absolute failure.

 

Seriously Jake, people lost interest insanely fast on YCM. Tournaments are the vaguest of the vaguest in terms of RPing, what makes you think anyone would stick around?

[Jake the Sage]

Tournaments are the vaguest of the vaguest in terms of RPing, what makes you think anyone would stick around?

 

Prizes and bragging rights?

 

Also people generally lose interest because it takes too long, because posts aren't instant. Take it off site so the responses can be instant and people won't take so long.

[Lt. Colonel Remo]

Well if you could add hype by having discussion threads/teams then maybe

 

Kinda like when Opal did the Mafia game that was forum-wide

 

If you don't have enough heavy-hitters maintaining a constant level of attention, the whole thing will fall apart

[Jake the Sage]

Well if you could add hype by having discussion threads/teams then maybe

 

Kinda like when Opal did the Mafia game that was forum-wide

 

Oh there is going to be discussion threads about who would win and everything including bets you could make on the outcome of a certain fight.

 

If you don't have enough heavy-hitters maintaining a constant level of attention, the whole thing will fall apart

 

Yeah that is the one problem I might have. Getting a lot of people who are noteworthy names in would be difficult. But what if you could pick a character you've done and use them?

 

Kind of like Kirei's Cross Over Role Play.

 

 

I even have the rules set up

[spoiler=Rules]

Rule 1: No God Modding. If you need this spelled out for you, then you shouldn't be here.

Rule 2: No OP character abilities.

 

Rule 3: No post size limit. Be as descriptive as you need to be in your postings.

 

Rule 4: Posting time limit is 2 days (48 hours), but you should inform your opponent upon posting a reply, instead of being an ass. Exceptions can be made from outstanding circumstances.

 

Rule 5: No numerical speeds or other numeric values aside from physical constants.

 

Rule 6: No teleporting, ever. If you go from point A to point B without traveling the distance between in its entirety in a speed that is not considered OP then its counted under this rule.

 

Rule 7: No bunnying. You are not allowed make make constant attacks during your post, and that is all. Actions that transpire as a result of that attack are, of course, perfectly fine.

 

Rule 8: NPC limit at 0. NPC are treated as full characters in regards to being hit and receiving damage but their power must be relative to the controllers character in terms of balance.

 

Rule 9: First post goes to <Whoever the f*ck>, who will set the stage in his/her post.

 

Rule 10: Agreeing to these rules is a post along the lines of "I accept"

 

Rule 11: As this is a universal fantasy/sci-fi RP, science can be bent, but not to bullshit capacities. Remember, this IS Earth, or at least functions under the same laws.

 

Rule 12: Locked Fight, no entrance from an outside party, at all.

 

Rule 13: Don't be stupid or cheap. No "going underground" to completely evade something that would otherwise kill you.

 

Rule 14: Failure to comply with rules 1, 2, 5, 6, and 7 will result in a repost. You are allowed ONE repost, and thereafter an infringement results in a disqualification, and forfeit of any bounty wagered.

 

Rule 15: Any information not on your character sheet or not stated in your introduction post is completely invalidated, and cannot be used within the confines of the battle itself. You aren't allowed to make up abilities as you go along, don't even try.

 

Rule 16: You not only reserve the right to have a post explained to you by your opponent, but judging decisions must, and I mean MUST be made with both parties present. Once the judges make their call it is final.

 

Rule 17: Mock Death Match, loser is declared when one combatant is dead, however there are no lasting effects on the character beyond the role play. Dead means he isn't functional so the 'lol never alive to begin with' sh*t cant be used as a get out.

[/spoiler]

[Mugendramon]

Kind of like Kirei's Cross Over Role Play.

 

Grand Crossover, is that not as dead as I predicted it would be? Not as clusterfuck-y as I predicted it to be?

[Jake the Sage]

Grand Crossover, is that not as dead as I predicted it would be? Not as clusterfuck-y as I predicted it to be?

 

Dunno, not a part of it

[Desu the Blue Nerd]

Rule 9 is bad.

 

Grand Crossover is bad but not activity wise.  A month in and 16 pages. Glancing through it has a good amount of activity from quite a few people. Last post was yesterday at 12:15pm. OoC still has pretty active discussion. Maybe not the absolutely insane amount expected but it's there still right now. Not really your best example to our dismay. I'm ignoring that the point made by bringing it up doesn't discredit Jake's since he was using the Crossover as an example of another thing that uses premade characters. You should discredited it by saying using premade characters is just sort of meh.

100% chance of absolute failure.

 

I disagree. It's only really at 80% once mere quick assuming cynicism and distaste in Jake is set aside. Although it doesn't seem like the naysayers in this have a great grasp on the RP community anymore. Basically, they still suck but they're also more motivated.

Well if people were left to try and decide the matches for themselves yeah I understand that.

 

However what if there was at least three judges viewing the match and specific rules the contestants had to abide by?

 

Well a big problem that would need to be taken into account is balance. Does a rule or area the fight is taking place in give an extremely unfair advantage to one player? Like you could take away jumping but to somebody who can fly they would end up with an advantage to an opponent who'd have more difficulty evading or traversing terrain. It's also why rule 9 isn't very good. A player can easily give him/herself an advantage via a large lake or ocean that lets them abuse their water powers.

Seriously Jake, people lost interest insanely fast on YCM. Tournaments are the vaguest of the vaguest in terms of RPing, what makes you think anyone would stick around?

 

Doesn't seem as bad as it used to be in the RP section. It's had a long track record of unfinished RPs for years and knowing that people want to achieve to be that thing that actually finishes. It's something I've certainly seen boasted about as well as gotten better in recent times.

Well if you could add hype by having discussion threads/teams then maybe

 

Kinda like when Opal did the Mafia game that was forum-wide

 

If you don't have enough heavy-hitters maintaining a constant level of attention, the whole thing will fall apart

 

And Remo is making a lot of excellent points that would make it an interesting competition not just for those participating which in turn gets people interested in future iterations of the event.

 

If anything, you'd just gotta worry about how much of a hardass Rinne sometimes is.

[Spirit of DMG]

THE LETTER C HAS NO REAL PURPOSE ANYWAYS

 

Interesting comment there, [b]C[/b]aptain Remo.

 

Now, Jake, I have no complaints about those rules, aside from Nine. For the sames reasons stated above. Yeah, get rid of that one,

[Jake the Sage]

Now, Jake, I have no complaints about those rules, aside from Nine. For the sames reasons stated above. Yeah, get rid of that one,

 

As I had already said in the status update, I forgot to remove that.

 

Now who should be the judges?

[Fusion X. Denver]

My only biff with RP fights is that victory basically boils down to either one person getting bored and letting their opponent win, or when someone can't think of another creative counter and/or asspull.

Though that may just be me.

 

Whoa whoa Desu's posting. Did Striker get in your good graces, or...

[Jake the Sage]

My only biff with RP fights is that victory basically boils down to either one person getting bored and letting their opponent win, or when someone can't think of another creative counter and/or asspull.

Though that may just be me.

 

Well that is why we're having judges and also an application which you cannot deviate from.

[Fusion X. Denver]

I don't see the harm in trying. Worst comes to worst, it dies after a day or two and everyone goes on with their lives as per usual.

 

And even if writing up rules and the other technical stuff takes a while, you could always save it for another site.

[Sploda]

RP tournaments require a very firm and controlling host, they typically won't work. I say this from experience.

 

@Fusion

RP fights between decent RPers end at either a pre-determined time or both RPers will realize when the RP needs to end and move to do so.

 

Repeated asspulls is what you call a godmod-fest and usually drives away all other RPers and give the participants a bad rep.

[Fusion X. Denver]

Ah right, the ties. All of my fights with Cortez have ended in a tie.

I think there's an unspoken rule that it ends that way if you're both evenly conceding damage and balancing out your actions.

 

I think it'd be interesting if the Grand Master assigned each contestant a secret weakness that they would have to lightly hint at through their fighting styles and the players have to guess and strike at it throughout the fight in order to win.

[Mugendramon]

I think it'd be interesting if the Grand Master assigned each contestant a secret weakness that they would have to lightly hint at through their fighting styles and the players have to guess and strike at it throughout the fight in order to win.

 

Good idea as this might be, the issue arises when you consider how good players would be, in order to "lightly" hint- of they're not that good, they're either not going to say anything about it at all, or even worse, make it blatant.

[Fusion X. Denver]

Good idea as this might be, the issue arises when you consider how good players would be, in order to "lightly" hint- of they're not that good, they're either not going to say anything about it at all, or even worse, make it blatant.

That is very true. But no RP's ever perfect (as far as I know). 

Worst comes to worst, it dies after causing a couple headaches and everyone goes on with their lives as per usual.

[Jake the Sage]

Well there is/was going to be an application which perfectly described everything about your fighter, like what they can and can't do, which would include any possible weaknesses.

 

The purpose of the application is not only to see who would be joining and setting up the matches, but to ensure no one can asspull anything. You try, you get disqualified.

[Lt. Colonel Remo]

And Remo is making a lot of excellent points

I GOT 6-SHOT'S PRAISE AND I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO KILL ANYONE

 

Interesting comment there, Captain Remo.

Kapitan*

 

It's fixed now

[Shadow Zero]

The rp tournament (as it is being suggested) sounds like a decent idea. I'd be interested to see how it turns out. If things are done right, it could possibly be at least as successful as the YCM popularity thing that was done some years back, and would be a good way to breath new life into the rp section.

 

Also, black had an angry leaving video? I can honestly say that I did not expect that from him, and that I am curious to exactly what he said and did on it. Is it still around?

[Fusion X. Denver]

Well there is/was going to be an application which perfectly described everything about your fighter, like what they can and can't do, which would include any possible weaknesses.

 

The purpose of the application is not only to see who would be joining and setting up the matches, but to ensure no one can asspull anything. You try, you get disqualified.

If you get a strict enough mediator, then things should be fine.

When all's said and done though, it seems the biggest problem with RPs was the interest and commitment the people in them keep.

 

The rp tournament (as it is being suggested) sounds like a decent idea. I'd be interested to see how it turns out. If things are done right, it could possibly be at least as successful as the YCM popularity thing that was done some years back, and would be a good way to breath new life into the rp section.

 

Also, black had an angry leaving video? I can honestly say that I did not expect that from him, and that I am curious to exactly what he said and did on it. Is it still around?

YCM popularity thing? Do you mean the Club Pikachu/Org 13 thing, or...

 

It wasn't angry, just jaded.

Though he made it clear he hated Powerforce.

His video should still be in the last 2-3 pages of the Leaving/Return thread.

[Desu the Blue Nerd]

My only biff with RP fights is that victory basically boils down to either one person getting bored and letting their opponent win, or when someone can't think of another creative counter and/or asspull.
Though that may just be me.

Isn't somebody's inability to think of a proper counter to an opponents move sort of the point?

Whoa whoa Desu's posting. Did Striker get in your good graces, or...

Nah, he still sucks.

Good idea as this might be, the issue arises when you consider how good players would be, in order to "lightly" hint- of they're not that good, they're either not going to say anything about it at all, or even worse, make it blatant.

 
Isn't that ALSO the point? I mean, it is an RP fight. You're trying to win while still HAVING (why even mention that some people might not when that already means likely disqualification?) to hint towards it so how well you hide it while still implying it's there (and remember that the judges do know about it so they'll be able to tell) so that does depend on your own skill level. No, the actually unfair balance would come from how much of a degree the weakness affects the people. I could use pretty much the same example that I did before.

Well there is/was going to be an application which perfectly described everything about your fighter, like what they can and can't do, which would include any possible weaknesses.
 
The purpose of the application is not only to see who would be joining and setting up the matches, but to ensure no one can asspull anything. You try, you get disqualified.

 

Well the problem here stems to would the contestants already know everything about their opponent, including their weaknesses, or not? Because if not some people are going to go right for the weakness and be like, "Oh hey, how strange. It's your weakness." While others may actually try to use logic throughout the fight to make it seem like he/she figured out the weakness for him/herself. And if it's already known then they're both going to try to go for the weakness right away. Either the weakness portion needs to be kept secret only to the judges or even better, not there at all which would lead to people to actually think about how their opponent's powers and fighting style work and figure out a weakness for themselves. Trying to deny that without clear reasoning would just be considered as an asspull from the judges.
 

I GOT 6-SHOT'S PRAISE AND I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO KILL ANYONE
 
Kapitan*
 
It's fixed now

 

I like to think that the murder was metaphorical.