Kazooie Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 1. who the hell is Kaeda 2. Pika gave us powers against YCMaker's say (because he, well, never says anything.) Black, seeing as it WAS done without the main Admin's permission, went ahead and talked to him about it. Pika has certain powers that allowed her to come across it- and she didn't agree to it. She gave a speech about it pointing out how and why it was wrong that Black did it. After which she demodded him. Fast forward to present day, when after formally quitting the forum he limits his activity to posting his new format Fableds. 1. Remo is very bad at spelling my name for some reason. 2. It's also worth mentioning that Black wasn't the only one who did this. I won't name names, whoever knows already knows and I'm not gonna spread it more than it is, but following Pika's incredibly poor logic, they should have been demoted as well. So Pika is effectively taking over the site, and has blackmailed the other mods, and also is very piss poor at her job, due to being one of the worst mods on YCM, while doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Maybe she just wanted sole control so she could get some money from the site? I mean, I don't know what else this site would get money from, aside from ad revenue, so... *shrugs* Knowing me, if I had been around when this had happened, I probably would have mouthed off to Pika or something on account of how wrong it all was, and end up getting banned for it. *shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted August 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 For some reason I'm still thinking we're confusion Hatcher (who had her previous name as PikaPerson01) with Crab Helmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Man, I don't even know anymore. Anyway, what's up with the forums since I've been away? If what I've seen is any indication, the place seems to have slowed to a more restrained pace, at least here in C&O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 For some reason I'm still thinking we're confusion Hatcher (who had her previous name as PikaPerson01) with Crab Helmet No we aren't. Crab has nothing to do with this, this is all Pika. :/ @Above: The forum has slowed down, but to be honest, it's kinda a good thing. A lot of the speed in the past was from an influx of new members who, to be honest weren't gonna stay. That and people just being assholes. But that still exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted August 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 No we aren't. Crab has nothing to do with this, this is all Pika. :/ Hu . . . that's odd. What's up with the forums since I've been away? The place seems to have slowed to a more restrained pace, at least here in C&O. Yeah C&O has been pretty slow as of late because school/college has gotten back in. I think it also has a lot to do with the fact that the people we do know are starting to decide to leave instead of stick around. Kind of like how I got here the user OmegaCatbus decided to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Wasn't that guy banned as opposed to deciding to leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Anyway, what's up with the forums since I've been away? If what I've seen is any indication, the place seems to have slowed to a more restrained pace, at least here in C&O. The Graphics section is dead, as is Creative Writing, Multimedia, and Custom Cards as usual. You missed quite a bit of drama involving Zazu, who flamed up the status bar something terrible under the alt named .codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 The Graphics section is dead, as is Creative Writing, Multimedia, and Custom Cards as usual. You missed quite a bit of drama involving Zazu, who flamed up the status bar something terrible under the alt named .codex. You forgot General. But yeah, a little drama was missed. The whole Zazu thing was pretty minor though, and no one truly misses him as far as I can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 I'm guessing he was banned as soon as he was found out. I'm pretty sure that the rules state that only one account is allowed per person, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Even if that were true, it is a betrayal of trust since really, Pika did a lot to grab an Admin account in order to improve the site. If we all forget things were in the shit for a while since YCMaker wasn't promoting mods and there was very little being done. Pika MADE Black a mod, and it was well within her right to take the modship away. I don't know the full argument, but there will be no point arguing it Caeda. I only have scraps I've heard around whilst you only have Black's word, and let's face it, he likes to act the victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Even if that were true, it is a betrayal of trust since really, Pika did a lot to grab an Admin account in order to improve the site. If we all forget things were in the shit for a while since YCMaker wasn't promoting mods and there was very little being done. Pika MADE Black a mod, and it was well within her right to take the modship away. I don't know the full argument, but there will be no point arguing it Caeda. I only have scraps I've heard around whilst you only have Black's word, and let's face it, he likes to act the victim. The betrayal of trust isn't an argument here. Pika did NOT make Black a mod. He was a mod before she got the access to an Admin account. By your logic, Black was only reporting to the person who made him a mod, therefore there was no reason to demote him at all. Meta/Mirror made him Damage Control. YCMaker made him a mod. Pika never trusted Black anyway and never showed him any respect, she only made her dislike of him more known and he did the same in return. The two never got along, there was never any trust there. Second, I would take Black's word over Pika's word any day. Yes he does act the victim a bit too much, but it's not like he hasn't been given a reason to. Pika was in the wrong here. She's threatened other mods. She's a dictator, far worse then Crab Helmet honestly. Third, it isn't just Black's word. Like I said, there were other people involved, but I'm not naming names. There's no point in risking getting them in trouble over it too. Black's let it go. He was sick of being a mod, he just wouldn't let go of the position cause he felt like he owed something to the site. He's happier without YCM really. That I can say for sure. The only reason I argue it is because I have no love for Pika, and I would LOVE to see her brought down notch or two. Preferably twenty+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 I could have sworn he was a mod after. But in any case, I wouldn't exactly say a hate for Black is unjustified. He got under the skin of a lot of people after all, and he had made many more enemies than friends. His own little leaving video didn't exactly have the best things to say. But honestly, why should we care HOW the site is run? From what I see Pika is doing an alright job as is, and I find that satisfactory enough. And if she is a dictator, then don't get on her bad side, plain and simple. And to be honest, I did enjoy watching Black have a tantrum as he, as you say, was knocked down a notch or twenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 I could have sworn he was a mod after. But in any case, I wouldn't exactly say a hate for Black is unjustified. He got under the skin of a lot of people after all, and he had made many more enemies than friends. His own little leaving video didn't exactly have the best things to say. But honestly, why should we care HOW the site is run? From what I see Pika is doing an alright job as is, and I find that satisfactory enough. And if she is a dictator, then don't get on her bad side, plain and simple. And to be honest, I did enjoy watching Black have a tantrum as he, as you say, was knocked down a notch or twenty. He was not. You can hate whoever you want. I, for example, hate Jake. However, if him and I were in a similar position to Pika and Black, I wouldn't demote him for one thing that was minor just because I disliked him. His leaving video was extreme, but honest. He had nothing to lose at that point anyway, so why should he care? We should care because it's on a bad path. Pure dictatorship is bad. Pika doesn't listen to people. She doesn't care about people. She just does what she wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Then clearly you've never been in power, because that's what people do, abuse it. Like when Koko decided to randomly change Striker's name multiple times. But let's face it, in a dictatorship, you don't piss off the dictator. Cause tatattling on the dictator to an indifferent god only annoys the dictator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Then clearly you've never been in power, because that's what people do, abuse it. Like when Koko decided to randomly change Striker's name multiple times. That's a lot different then just demoting someone because you don't like them. Abuse of power isn't okay when it's harmful. Lily and Striker had come to an understanding about that and it wasn't meant as malicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Also, wasn't Black taking his frustrations out on some of the newbie CC posters? I seem to recall a pretty mean rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted August 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 You can hate whoever you want. I, for example, hate Jake. However, if him and I were in a similar position to Pika and Black, I wouldn't demote him for one thing that was minor just because I disliked him. Actually there is an old saying that "if you hate someone, even the tiniest thing will become major" or something to that effect. So though to others it may look like something small, since you hate them to you it looks like something major. So not saying you would, but since you do hate me there is a chance you'd do the same thing. I don't hate you. Hell, if I was a Mod I wouldn't even do anything bad to Broken despite his pension for getting on my nerves; if I did then someone would probably tell me I was being stupid, I'd apologize for being an ass. Then clearly you've never been in power, because that's what people do, abuse it. Most people Broken, most people. There are a few, Phantom Roxas and Flame Dragon specifically, that I think handle their Moderator status well enough. Hell! I advocate Phantom Roxas for an Admin position constantly because I don't see how he'd ever abuse it. Both of them are helpful and listen to people when they're brought concerns. But that's just me. Someone else might have a different view of them. Like when Koko decided to randomly change Striker's name multiple times. Or when someone changed my name to 'Jake the Copycat' when Sonic and I had similar avatars. Still don't know who that was though (>>) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Also, wasn't Black taking his frustrations out on some of the newbie CC posters? I seem to recall a pretty mean rant He also made an apology thread for that, lightened up, and got someone to help make a chart he could use instead of having to make those rants. When you have correct the same 2/3 mistakes all the time, you get a little bitter about it. It doesn't help that for a long time, Lily had been unable to help mod CC and it left him alone because Alfred was basically useless except to disagree with whatever the majority of the mods said. He was getting a little bitter, but that had passed by the time Pika decided to demote him and there were no hard feelings left among the majority of CC. @Jake: I don't put a lot of stock into old sayings. While it's certainly possible I would take anger out on you, I see it very unprofessional and I can't imagine that I would do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted August 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Also, wasn't Black taking his frustrations out on some of the newbie CC posters? I seem to recall a pretty mean rant Okay Broken before this becomes a complete debate between you too . . . EDIT: Okay too late, but still my point remains. If it's going to become a debate between you two, though I like the amount of posting here, please take it to PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Yeah, I'm the last person you want to talk to about bitterness behind a job. Every day at work I spend 7 hours repeating the same question over and over; but I have the professionalism to not take it out on people. Besides, it was all down to his paranoia anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Yeah, I'm the last person you want to talk to about bitterness behind a job. Every day at work I spend 7 hours repeating the same question over and over; but I have the professionalism to not take it out on people. Besides, it was all down to his paranoia anyways. He is a bit too paranoid, but... It's not like he doesn't have reason to be. I've done what I can, and I can say that it isn't near as bad anymore as it used to be. The fact that drama tends to follow him, and that he has legitimately gotten sick from it in the past doesn't help. Even if you don't believe it, he doesn't enjoy it one bit and it tends to make him sick. Anyway, we should probably stop here before Jake gets too annoyed~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted August 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Anyway, we should probably stop here before Jake gets too annoyed~ Not annoyed really. I just don't want Mugen or another Mod coming in once I get off and having to tell you two to take it to PM since the discussion really is just between you two. We've had that done in the past so I'm just nipping it in the butt. If I could be certain they wouldn't come in and tell you to move the conversation to PM I wouldn't care a single bit. And with that I'm going to bed since it's late. And I want to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Well it's a hotel, current events is a perfectly legitimate discussion. Also, half the drama that follows him are a direct result of his actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Dear lord why does the conversation I can provide the most accurate and useful information to happen when I'm not around? >Black was fed up. He reported. >Pika was fed up with him too. She saw it as a threat. She demodded him. Whatever else any of you two said goes into the field of subjectivity. That just now is exactly, simply, all that went down during that event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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