CrabHelmet Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 First of all, since I said there would be prizes, I guess I should create some prize-ish things or something. 1st Place: 500 Points + 3 Reps2nd Place: 100 Points + 1 Rep Remember, Points and Reps on YCM = REAL MONEY. This is a serious tournament. Very serious. So serious, people have killed to advance in it. That's how serious it is. Never underestimate the value of Three Reps. RULES, because it seems silly not to have any.1. You may use any card that has been released in the TCG.2. You may use any card that was released in the OCG prior to or at the time of the OCG release of Phantom Darkness, which occurred on 23 November 2007.3. You must conduct all duels via the Yu-Gi-Oh Virtual Desktop.4. You must follow the official rules of the game.5. You must follow the Atem Penultimate Banlist. That's right. The twist here is that the tournament uses neither the September 2007 banlist nor the March 2008 banlist. It uses a list superior to both of them, the Atem Penultimate Banlist, which was constructed by people who understand the game far better than Konami does. [spoiler=The Official Atem Penultimate Banlist]I. Forbidden Cards You cannot use these cards in your Deck or Side Deck: ACCUMULATED FORTUNEBLACK LUSTER SOLDIER - ENVOY OF THE BEGINNINGBUTTERFLY DAGGER - ELMACARD OF SAFE RETURNCHANGE OF HEARTCHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON - ENVOY OF THE ENDCHAOS SORCERERCHIMERATECH OVERDRAGONCONFISCATIONCRUSH CARD VIRUSCYBER END DRAGONCYBER TWIN DRAGONCYBER JARCYBER-STEINDAIROKKAN (Sixth Sense)DARK ARMED DRAGONDARK HOLEDARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOSDECK DEVASTATION VIRUSDELINQUENT DUODIMENSION FUSIONEXCHANGE OF THE SPIRITFIBER JARGOLD SARCOPHAGUSGRACEFUL CHARITYHARPIE'S FEATHER DUSTERIMPERIAL ORDERLAST TURNLAST WILLLIMITER REMOVALMAGICAL EXPLOSIONMAGICAL SCIENTISTMAKYURA THE DESTRUCTORMEGAMORPHMEIFU NO SHISHA GOES (Gorz the Emissary of Darkness)MIRAGE OF NIGHTMAREMONSTER REBORNMORPHING JARNOBLEMAN OF CROSSOUTPAINFUL CHOICEPHANTOM OF CHAOSPOT OF GREEDPREMATURE BURIALRAIGEKIRETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSIONRING OF DESTRUCTIONSANGANSINISTER SERPENTSKY SCOURGE NORLERASSNATCH STEALSNIPE HUNTERTHE FORCEFUL SENTRYTHOUSAND-EYES RESTRICTTIME SEALTRAP DUSTSHOOTTREEBORN FROGTSUKUYOMIULTIMATE OFFERINGVICTORY DRAGONWITCH OF THE BLACK FORESTYATA-GARASU NEW! - Accumulated Fortune, Card of Safe Return, Chimeratech Overdragon, Crush Card Virus, Cyber End Dragon, Cyber Twin Dragon, Dark Armed Dragon, Dark Magician of Chaos, Deck Devasation Virus, Dimension Fusion, Gold Sarcophagus, Limiter Removal, Magical Explosion, Megamorph, Meifu no Shisha Goes (Gorz the Emissary of Darkness), Monster Reborn, Morphing Jar, Nobleman of Crossout, Phantom of Chaos, Premature Burial, Return from the Different Dimension, Sangan, Sky Scourge Norleras, Snipe Hunter, Trap Dustshoot, Treeborn Frog, Ultimate Offering II. Limited Cards You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined: BREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIORCALL OF THE HAUNTEDCARD DESTRUCTIONCARD TROOPERCEASEFIRECHAIN STRIKEDANDELION (Dandylion)ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOSEXODIA THE FORBIDDEN ONEGIANT TRUNADEGREEN BABOON, DEFENDER OF THE FORESTHEAVY STORMJINZOLEVEL LIMIT - AREA BMAGIC CYLINDERMAGICIAN OF FAITHMARSHMALLONMIRROR FORCENIGHT ASSAILANTSPIRIT REAPERSWORDS OF REVEALING LIGHTTRIBE-INFECTING VIRUSTWIN-HEADED BEHEMOTHUNITED WE STAND NEW! - Call of the Haunted, Jinzo, Tribe-Infecting Virus NEW! - The following cards are no longer Limited: Advanced Ritual Art, Book of Moon, Brain Control, Cyber Dragon, D.D. Warrior Lady, Destiny Hero - Disk Commander, Destiny Hero - Malicious, Fissure, Foolish Burial, Future Fusion, Gravity Bind, Left Arm of the Forbidden One, Left Leg of the Forbidden One, Light and Darkness Dragon, Mage Power, Magical Stone Excavation, Manticore of Darkness, Mask of Darkness, Metamorphosis, Mind Crush, Mystical Space Typhoon, Neo-Spacian Grand Mole, Ojama Trio, Ouke no Shinden (Temple of the Kings), Overload Fusion, Pot of Avarice, Raiza the Storm Monarch, Reinforcement of the Army, Right Arm of the Forbidden One, Right Leg of the Forbidden One, Royal Decree, Scapegoat, Smashing Ground, The Transmigration Prophecy, Torrential Tribute, Wall of Revealing Light So, who feels up to it? 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Frostpaw Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 How do you get Yugioh Virtual Desktop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonenhikada Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 I have problems with mine... I can't seem to duel anyone what a shame,bcause I'm always listening but nothing happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzi Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Once I figure out YVD, I'll enter. Though the chances are, I'll lose. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzumakinaruto93 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 are there no semi-limited cards on that banlist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 How do you get Yugioh Virtual Desktop? Here. I have problems with mine... I can't seem to duel anyone what a shame' date='bcause I'm always listening but nothing happens.[/quote'] Did you arrange a duel in advance with someone else and give them your IP? It's not like GKO where you start listening and someone will find you. Once I figure out YVD' date=' I'll enter. Though the chances are, I'll lose. =/[/quote'] Would this help? are there no semi-limited cards on that banlist? None whatsoever. Semi-limiting cards is unnecessary in a well-constructed list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonenhikada Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 no I didn't I though it was some sort of lobby type thing like gameking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Frostpaw Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 It doesn't work for me either. It says that there are missing pieces to the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 I'll join. Now off to make a deck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 snipe hunter, treeborn, dustshot banned this list fails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 snipe hunter banned this list fails Care to explain the reasoning behind this statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 well snipe hunter is crap to put it bluntly obvious these people must use weighted dices to think that it deserves banning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzumakinaruto93 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 snipe hunter banned this list fails Care to explain the reasoning behind this statement? guess he really like snipe hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 no actual its only in my side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 well snipe hunter is crap to put it bluntly obvious these people must use weighted dices to think that it deserves banning Or maybe he's banned because he's a highly searchable monster that can perform mass spot removal on any cards he chooses for a relatively low cost, thereby reducing the effect of skill required in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 and when it works only 4/6 there is chance that you hand will disappear all snipe hunter is a 0 advantage card if you want to ban all other 0 advantage cards go ahead hey lets ban sangan! Or lets ban D.D. Crow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzi Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 and when it works only 4/6 there is chance that you hand will disappear all snipe hunter is a 0 advantage card if you want to ban all other 0 advantage cards go ahead hey lets ban sangan! Or lets ban D.D. Crow!Sangan is banned. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 wtf i didnt see it man these list is absolutely the most stupid thing ive ever seen obviously made by people who cant accept losing to people who use OTK decks. They probably just use monarchs all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 and when it works only 4/6 there is chance that you hand will disappear all snipe hunter is a 0 advantage card if you want to ban all other 0 advantage cards go ahead hey lets ban sangan! Or lets ban D.D. Crow! Neither of those are +0. Sangan is +1; D.D. Crow is -1. For more information' date=' read the extremely handy Card Advantage FAQ that I wrote for people who don't understand the advantage system. However, the total card advantage is not the reason Snipe Hunter was banned; the problem with Snipe Hunter is the immediate field advantage. Removing any type of card instantly as many times per turn as one wishes = bad for the game. Yes, there is a chance that you'll roll five 6's in a row, but there is also a chance that Pot of Greed will be the second-to-last card in your deck. That doesn't make Pot of Greed any less broken. wtf i didnt see it man these list is absolutely the most stupid thing ive ever seen obviously made by people who cant accept losing to people who use OTK decks. They probably just use monarchs all the time. Yeah, you caught us. Treeborn Frog was banned because we like Monarch decks. We wanted to make them as overpowered as possible, so we got rid of that stupid frog. We also got rid of Premature Burial so that Perfect Circle would become more broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzumakinaruto93 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 and when it works only 4/6 there is chance that you hand will disappear all snipe hunter is a 0 advantage card if you want to ban all other 0 advantage cards go ahead hey lets ban sangan! Or lets ban D.D. Crow!Sangan is banned. >_> lol btw sangan is a +1 also the 4/6 is good ods, u have a 66% chance of destroying anything on the field, as many times as u want pluss its highly searchable...how can u say that doesn't deserve ban? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 well if ur saying that something that has a big impact on the field derseves banning how come raiza isnt on there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 well if ur saying that something that has a big impact on the field derseves banning how come raiza isnt on there? Can't you tell the difference between returning one card to the deck and destroying every card the opponent has on the field? Raiza is strong, but not overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 right ur saying snipe destroys every card on the field if u were a good player you would put all ur good cards on the field at once and risk them all being destroyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 right ur saying snipe destroys every card on the field if u were a good player you would put all ur good cards on the field at once and risk them all being destroyed Excellent logic. Sure, every card on your field might be destroyed, and your opponent might be able to attack your life points directly with every monster he has, leading to a quick and easy win, but somewhere in your hand and deck, there must be more good cards! Pity the game is over, so you can't use them. What's your opinion on Dark Armed Dragon being banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 meh cant say really a good side deck can own DAD Also if they have a load of monsters on the field they probably not have many cards in their hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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