Alice Moonflowyr Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Either I'm really mistaken, or there seems to be lots of contraversy surrounding these guys. I personally think that they're awesome, especially How You Remind Me, Savin Me, Photograph, Gotta Be Somebody...geez. Lotsa stuff. Right up there with Miku and Flyleaf in mah fav band/singer list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Oh hell no. Some of their stuff is okay... ... but when I say or type that I feel I have to sandpaper my tongue/fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted May 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 I really dont get some peoples problem with these guys....they have awesome music, what more do you really need out of a band? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Music is objective, so realistically, you can't say "awesome" music, unless you're talking about instrumental skill or the arrangement as a whole (or, to put it simply, who well the song is composed). Nickelback have neither. I personally dislike their music. It's boring and plain. I don't think they've written something original, well, ever. For me, originality is big, so I dislike Nickelback entirely. I've also never heard of any "controversy," most people just hate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted May 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 [quote name='John A. Zoidberg' timestamp='1335916335' post='5930565'] Music is objective, so realistically, you can't say "awesome" music, unless you're talking about instrumental skill or the arrangement as a whole (or, to put it simply, who well the song is composed). Nickelback have neither. I personally dislike their music. It's boring and plain. I don't think they've written something original, well, ever. For me, originality is big, so I dislike Nickelback entirely. I've also never heard of any "controversy," most people just hate them. [/quote]Fine, awesome IMO. Happy? Meh, I like the kind of music they have. It's my kind of music. Green Day, Flyleaf, Nickelback...they're my kind of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 I grew up listening to Nickelback so I basically entirely accustomed myself to them. Although admittedly when I was much younger I thought they were the best thing ever. I still do like them, but don't listen to them half as much because they get repetitive a little too easily for my taste most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted May 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Some of their songs do sound kinda the same, I'll give you that. But a few of them are rly good. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUnforgiven Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 How can you tell a girl is natural blonde? If they think nickleback is a refund!!! No but seriously a pretty decent band... and to whom ever said music was objective...... it is not. Music is about expression, not skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 [quote name='TheUnforgiven' timestamp='1336161647' post='5932546'] How can you tell a girl is natural blonde? If they think nickleback is a refund!!! No but seriously a pretty decent band... and to whom ever said music was objective...... it is not. Music is about expression, not skill. [/quote] The correct word was subjective there, actually, looking back on it. It was a miswording on my part. Regardless, skill and expression have nothing to do with my point. My point is that you can't call a group good or bad based on their sound, as that's an opinionated feeling. Technically, a band is not "good" unless they are musically (most often in a theory aspect) adept. You can be terrible at an instrument and still have decent knowledge of theory. You can, however, say "this music sounds good," or "in my opinion, this music is good" since in that phrasing, it means that to you, it sounds good. Whether or not a band is good or bad does depend generally on knowledge and skill- there is no disputing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUnforgiven Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 [quote name='John A. Zoidberg' timestamp='1336186122' post='5932749'] The correct word was subjective there, actually, looking back on it. It was a miswording on my part. Regardless, skill and expression have nothing to do with my point. My point is that you can't call a group good or bad based on their sound, as that's an opinionated feeling. Technically, a band is not "good" unless they are musically (most often in a theory aspect) adept. You can be terrible at an instrument and still have decent knowledge of theory. You can, however, say "this music sounds good," or "in my opinion, this music is good" since in that phrasing, it means that to you, it sounds good. Whether or not a band is good or bad does depend generally on knowledge and skill- there is no disputing that. [/quote] You sound like my Music Appresiation teacher, and every music major at my college.... Where talking bout 21st century music.... not classical..... Take your "Music theory" to a thread that gives a flying F*ck.... And if enough people agree, i most certainly can say a band sounds great... and it be atleast partially true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 [quote name='TheUnforgiven' timestamp='1336204229' post='5932857'] You sound like my Music Appresiation teacher, and every music major at my college.... Where talking bout 21st century music.... not classical..... Take your "Music theory" to a thread that gives a flying F*ck.... And if enough people agree, i most certainly can say a band sounds great... and it be atleast partially true. [/quote] You really don't get it, do you? >_> [b]I am not telling you that you can't say that a band sounds great. That is what you can say because that is your opinion.[/b] What you CAN'T say, is that a band IS good without there being any real knowledge of theory or real skill, or at least knowledge of composition in general. For example- John Petrucci IS good. His music is complex, as his knowledge of both his instrument and how to write pieces is superb and probably unmatched in the entire progressive rock community. On the opposite side of the spectrum, you can say Nickelback SOUNDS good. That means it is pleasing to you personally. That is what is correct. Let me make an analogy with video games. Runescape is fun. It is good to the player. But the actual mechanics of gameplay are stupid and poorly done, so you can't say "Runescape is a good game!" because it's clearly very poorly made. f*** man, all you've been doing this entire time is misinterpreting my actual point. Also, you're just making a terrible argument. Classical music and 21st century music shouldn't be thought of as alien to one another. They are both music, actually with many common themes. Many modern composers (and even bands, realistically) have a lot of influence from these classical artist that you so willingly wish to alienate from modern music. You know, music majors say those things for a reason- [i]it's true.[/i] I'm honestly just excited for your argument to turn into "HEY F*** YOU, I'M RIGHT!" because that's where it seems to be headed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc. Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Watch CS118's "YTP:Nicklesh!t writes a song about bodily functions", I swear it is the only "Nickleback" song I ever sat through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUnforgiven Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 [quote name='John A. Zoidberg' timestamp='1336221239' post='5932911'] You really don't get it, do you? >_> [b]I am not telling you that you can't say that a band sounds great. That is what you can say because that is your opinion.[/b] What you CAN'T say, is that a band IS good without there being any real knowledge of theory or real skill, or at least knowledge of composition in general. For example- John Petrucci IS good. His music is complex, as his knowledge of both his instrument and how to write pieces is superb and probably unmatched in the entire progressive rock community. On the opposite side of the spectrum, you can say Nickelback SOUNDS good. That means it is pleasing to you personally. That is what is correct. Let me make an analogy with video games. Runescape is fun. It is good to the player. But the actual mechanics of gameplay are stupid and poorly done, so you can't say "Runescape is a good game!" because it's clearly very poorly made. f*** man, all you've been doing this entire time is misinterpreting my actual point. Also, you're just making a terrible argument. Classical music and 21st century music shouldn't be thought of as alien to one another. They are both music, actually with many common themes. Many modern composers (and even bands, realistically) have a lot of influence from these classical artist that you so willingly wish to alienate from modern music. You know, music majors say those things for a reason- [i]it's true.[/i] I'm honestly just excited for your argument to turn into "HEY F*** YOU, I'M RIGHT!" because that's where it seems to be headed. [/quote] Im just saying.... music theory does not come into play with our modern bands. Classical and modern music are 2 differant worlds. Thye originated from the same place, but simply put are separate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 [quote name='TheUnforgiven' timestamp='1336240465' post='5933020'] Im just saying.... music theory does not come into play with our modern bands. Classical and modern music are 2 differant worlds. Thye originated from the same place, but simply put are separate. [/quote] It still really seems like you're not comprehending what I've told you at all. Why doesn't it come into play? Give me one good reason why modern bands should be exempt from playing music with an inch of true knowledge of music. Your logic is so terrible. You don't even have an argument. You're essentially just saying, "I'm right. I don't have any reasoning or anything, but, well, I'm right." Music is music. It does not matter if they sound different, they are part of the same group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flinsbon Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I think he's trying to say that what you consider "good" music would fail in today's society because people seem to have lost a taste for that kinda stuff. The most popular and successful stuff today comes from people who can't sing for their lives and who's music is basically just noise. Therefore, what you consider "good" music is, in effect, no longer "good" because almost no one likes it. Yeah, it's sad that this is the truth but it really is at this point. I can't stand to listen to anything recent because everything is just so bad to me. OT: I see no reason for people to call Nickelback bad. He's 100 times better than anything released today. Honestly, his music was really popular for years and then all of a sudden people start saying he's the worst thing in the world? I don't think so. There's something wrong here. Btw, this whole "yelling" thing everyone rips on him for is just his style of singing, not his inability to sing. It works fine for him, so leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Freya Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Personally I love Nickleback. There's such a great emotional range to any of their albums. look at Here and Now alone and you'll find anything from raw sexuality, to anger, to some really deep, meaningful stuff, to just happiness. perhaps musically speaking they aren't the world's best band in terms of music, or originality, I don't deny that, but the truth is they have a song for every emotion I can feel and that means that I can really relate to them, I can put together a playlist of Nickleback for any situation, and frankly, in my opinion, that makes the band spectacular, because at the end of the day, music is about emotion, and self-expression, and connecting wit the audience, and Chad and the guys really have that down-packed, at least in my humble, fangirl opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindingTheEverlight Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 The singer has ramen noodle hair, and he never changes his voice to go with a certain song, he never just tones it down to fit it. Plus, when he sings it sounds like he's taking the best dump of his life. Dint get me wrong, they have decent songs, but they are more than definitely not even close to being in my top 50 favorite bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 FAAAAR AWAY FOR FAR TOO LONG~*~* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanPark24 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I liked one song of theirs once, but after a while, all their songs ran together and I couldn't tell them apart. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Grew up a Nickelback fan. I've always liked their music even though some of their newer stuff isn't quite as good as the older stuff is. I don't understand the hate surrounding them at all. I guess I can understand the people who say the band isn't that great, but Chad Kroeger is an awesome singer and songwriter and he's very talented. I just hate the idiots who blindly hate on them without listening to any of their music because everyone else does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I like their stuff pre-Rockstar. I actually didn't think that song was too bad until it was played ALL OF THE TIME, EVERYWHERE. But yeah, a lot of people enjoy just blindly hating them and while I agree that they aren't one of the most technically gifted bands, they are alright. Like, if they were played I wouldn't make comments like "turn that s*** off". Average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotKrow Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I'm not a fan of Theory of a NickelCreed. However, some of their older songs are good or decent, from what I've heard of their newer albums I have not not enjoyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='Achacia' timestamp='1342465911' post='5980091']from what I've heard of their newer albums I have not not enjoyed. [/quote] I'm wondering if the use of the double negative was intentional there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotKrow Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Naw, it's a typo. I can't edit it on my phone...now I look like a Nickelback fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='Achacia' timestamp='1342466811' post='5980107'] Naw, it's a typo. I can't edit it on my phone...now I look like a Nickelback fan. [/quote] Haha. In fairness, it could be a lot worse. It just so happens that majority of their new stuff is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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