Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Edited version of the deck last night. Monsters: 22[2]Vennominaga the Deity of Poisonous Snakes[3]Vennominon the King of Poisonous Snakes[3]Skreech[3]Gale Lizard[3]Alien Shocktrooper[2]Alien Warrior[2]Razor Lizard[2]Venom Serpent[1]Venom Cobra[1]Sangan Spells: 9[3]Snake Rain[2]Hand Destruction[1]Monster Reborn[1]Premature Burial[1]Heavy Storm[1]Card Destruction Traps: 9[3]Damage = Reptile[3]Snake Whistle[3]Rise of the Snake Deity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abstract [Atrocity] Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 if you're usin skreech, run Serpentine princess. I think it's water is a reptil and has 2000 DEF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renzin Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 How you will Summon Vennominaga the Deity of Poisonous Snakes?You need to add Hammer Shot or Torrential Tribute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 How you will Summon Vennominaga the Deity of Poisonous Snakes?You need to add Hammer Shot or Torrential TributeI could just depend on the fact that my opponent will destroy my Vennominion eventually. Torrential is too slow for the deck to use and except to work. It'll basically be dead weight since the win conditions are King and Deity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renzin Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 How you will Summon Vennominaga the Deity of Poisonous Snakes?You need to add Hammer Shot or Torrential TributeI could just depend on the fact that my opponent will destroy my Vennominion eventually. Torrential is too slow for the deck to use and except to work. It'll basically be dead weight since the win conditions are King and Deity. Can you activate Rise of the Snake Deity if Vennominion is destroyed by battle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 How you will Summon Vennominaga the Deity of Poisonous Snakes?You need to add Hammer Shot or Torrential TributeI could just depend on the fact that my opponent will destroy my Vennominion eventually. Torrential is too slow for the deck to use and except to work. It'll basically be dead weight since the win conditions are King and Deity. Can you activate Rise of the Snake Deity if Vennominion is destroyed by battle?Well, this is its effect: Rise of the Snake DeityGroup: Trap CardType: TrapActivate only when a face-up "Vennominon the King of Poisonous Snakes" you control is destroyed. Special Summon 1 "Vennominaga the Deity of Poisonous Snakes" from your hand or Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 How you will Summon Vennominaga the Deity of Poisonous Snakes?You need to add Hammer Shot or Torrential TributeI could just depend on the fact that my opponent will destroy my Vennominion eventually. Torrential is too slow for the deck to use and except to work. It'll basically be dead weight since the win conditions are King and Deity. Can you activate Rise of the Snake Deity if Vennominion is destroyed by battle?Well' date=' this is its effect: Rise of the Snake DeityGroup: Trap CardType: TrapActivate only when a face-up "Vennominon the King of Poisonous Snakes" you control is destroyed. Special Summon 1 "Vennominaga the Deity of Poisonous Snakes" from your hand or Deck.[/quote']You can NOT activate "Rise of the Snake Deity" if "Vennominon the King of Poisonous Snakes" is destroyed by battle. This is because destruction by battle occurs during the Damage Step, and since "Rise of the Snake Deity" is not a Counter Trap, does not affect ATK/DEF, does not affect battle damage, and has no text or ruling declaring that it can be activated during the Damage Step, you cannot chain it to Vennominon's death by battle. Also, your Venom monsters are utterly useless for all intents and purposes other than being beatsticks; they may as well be Normal monsters. This is because Venom Counters have no effect unless "Venom Swamp" is face-up on the field, and your deck does not contain "Venom Swamp". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 And completely understood the second part. I formatted the deck as is to give people ideas about what to do with the deck. Like if they think I should use Venom Swamp or not. And then I could change the deck accordingly. But I guess that wasn't too obvious (though everyone should know I'm not a complete n00b) and I should probably write at the bottom a note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 So, you intentionally put Venom monsters in without Venom Swamp...so that people would tell you to add Venom Swamp? Doesn't make any sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 So' date=' you intentionally put Venom monsters in without Venom Swamp...so that people would tell you to add Venom Swamp? Doesn't make any sense to me.[/quote']You must not be thinking too much, then. Don't you know anything about the human mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 So' date=' you intentionally put Venom monsters in without Venom Swamp...so that people would tell you to add Venom Swamp? Doesn't make any sense to me.[/quote']You must not be thinking too much, then. Don't you know anything about the human mind?You made a deliberate and blatant mistake with the intention of someone telling you to fix it, and lo! someone told you to fix it. Congratulations, you are a master of psychology. Putting in half a "visual tool" serves no purpose; you either put it all in, or don't include it at all. Also, the last deck you posted was a DDT deck without Trade-In, so you have a bit of a record of excluding key cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 So' date=' you intentionally put Venom monsters in without Venom Swamp...so that people would tell you to add Venom Swamp? Doesn't make any sense to me.[/quote']You must not be thinking too much, then. Don't you know anything about the human mind?You made a deliberate and blatant mistake with the intention of someone telling you to fix it, and lo! someone told you to fix it. Congratulations, you are a master of psychology. Putting in half a "visual tool" serves no purpose; you either put it all in, or don't include it at all. Also, the last deck you posted was a DDT deck without Trade-In, so you have a bit of a record of excluding key cards.No card is "key" unless it's essential. And I didn't have to have Trade-In in the deck, did I? It actually worked quite well without it. And I didn't make a big deal about what you said so why are you being all aggressive about this? It was said and I took what you said and explained myself. It was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 So' date=' you intentionally put Venom monsters in without Venom Swamp...so that people would tell you to add Venom Swamp? Doesn't make any sense to me.[/quote']You must not be thinking too much, then. Don't you know anything about the human mind?You made a deliberate and blatant mistake with the intention of someone telling you to fix it, and lo! someone told you to fix it. Congratulations, you are a master of psychology. Putting in half a "visual tool" serves no purpose; you either put it all in, or don't include it at all. Also, the last deck you posted was a DDT deck without Trade-In, so you have a bit of a record of excluding key cards.No card is "key" unless it's essential. And I didn't have to have Trade-In in the deck, did I? It actually worked quite well without it. And I didn't make a big deal about what you said so why are you being all aggressive about this? It was said and I took what you said and explained myself. It was over.Pardon my ignorance, since I clearly know nothing about psychology, but what reaction were you expecting upon accusing me of not thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Supreme Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 This Deck Fails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 This Deck FailsSurprisingly, the version I currently have is quick. I'm going to replace it in the post in just a moment. @Crab: Not everything is an insult. I was just saying you weren't thinking into it enough :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renzin Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 xD by the way what are you going to do if your opponent set a Marshmallon or similar without Venom Swamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Well, I have Razor Lizard for one. I'm thinking about dumping the Hand Destructions and replacing them with more useful cards, seeing as this deck usually doesn't have a very large hand. Possibly Lightning Vortex and Hand Destruction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 ITT: Internet fite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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