Premier Alexander Romanov Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8fm3Z7jgWM&ob=av2n"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8fm3Z7jgWM&ob=av2n[/url] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Zu49V.jpg[/IMG] Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Evo price is sort of inconsistent at 1,maybe take it out for a variance or take out a diplo for another one. Do you get out two solldas or two freezerdons in one duel a lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 No, not really. What would you suggest in their place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Darwinos and the level 6 are horribly inconsistent. Evol engine is: 3 Westlo 3 Najasho 0-1 Casinerio 3 Cerato 2-3 Vulcano 2 Diplo Then you run stuff like Gorz, Veiler and Maxx C And while you're at it, find space for Fiendish Chain, and the engine change means you free up space in your extra deck for Rank 4s entirely. Oh and you should be running Zenmaister regardless. Extra should look more like 1 Stardust (If you keep Road, which is probably sub-optimal) 3 Laggia 2 Dolkka 1 Number 50 1 Utopia 1 Utopia Ray 1 Zenmaister 1 Emeral 1 Chain 1 Thunderclap 1 Roach 1 Zenmaines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 But I want to run RNK 5s. Freezerdon allows for Laggia's effect to be used 3 times, and Volcasaurus pwns monsters. How do I run Laggia and #19 in the same deck? And why Thunderclap? I don't have any RNK 5-6s to Overlay him into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 You have Enemy Controller. .-. And running the Rank 5 engine makes you lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I do admit, it's not the most consistent deck, but I want to make it work. Who wouldn't want to use their Laggia 3 times? Also, could you please elaborate on why running Rank 5s in an Evol Deck is so bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='TheFinalFan' timestamp='1332870535' post='5890994'] I do admit, it's not the most consistent deck, but I want to make it work. Who wouldn't want to use their Laggia 3 times? [/quote] Why would you not just get out 3 Laggias then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderVolt Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 You really wont have the time to get them both out consistently, by the time you have the chance to summon Freezerdon your opponent will have forced you to use Laggia's effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Poison Love' timestamp='1332874138' post='5891081'] You really wont have the time to get them both out consistently, by the time you have the chance to summon Freezerdon your opponent will have forced you to use Laggia's effect. [/quote] Which is why I am trying to build a deck that can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='TheFinalFan' timestamp='1332874235' post='5891084'] Which is why I am trying to build a deck that can. [/quote] But why when 3 Laggias can do the exact same thing ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1332874391' post='5891087'] But why when 3 Laggias can do the exact same thing ._. [/quote] Why do what you can do for 3 Rank 4s when you can use a Rank 4 and a Rank 5 instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='TheFinalFan' timestamp='1332874531' post='5891091'] Why do what you can do for 3 Rank 4s when you can use a Rank 4 and a Rank 5 instead? [/quote] Mainly because it's much easier to get out 3 Ranks 4s, rather than the latter, in Evols. If you must do so: -1 Starlight Road -2 Primordial Soup +3 Fiendish Chain I don't really recognize the rest anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I don't understand what's wrong with my combo? Is it not worth maximizing the ability of a single Laggia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Your combo involves stupidly large amounts of dead draws and unnecessary cards. Multiple Laggias, or Laggia and Dolkka are better than wasting any time going for Freezerdon, it's the absolute worst Xyz ever made for a reason. You'd be better off making so many monsters, like any other Rank 5, literally. You're basing your deck around the idea that you draw perfectly every game. We're trying to help it so, instead of having dumb and bad combos, you actually draw perfectly almost every game. Consistency > One rare combo You're not even "maximising" one Laggia, you're relying way too much on a shitty combo, when you could be sitting on 2 2400 Solemn Judgments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Thank you. So, since my "brilliant" combo is no longer feasible, and it looks like rebuilding my deck from the ground up is in order, what should I change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='TheFinalFan' timestamp='1332885644' post='5891467'] Thank you. So, since my "brilliant" combo is no longer feasible, and it looks like rebuilding my deck from the ground up is in order, what should I change? [/quote] Did you seriously not read the posts in this thread? People already said what you should change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 They never said anything about the Spells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 [quote name='TheFinalFan' timestamp='1332887102' post='5891519'] They never said anything about the Spells. [/quote] We're not even complaining about the Spells. It's the pure concept. If a build does the exact same thing as another build, but one of them is strictly inferior, the better build should be chosen at all times. Especially if they're basically the same deck type. 1. You should never, ever have more than 1 or 2 Laggias on the field at a time anyway. Mainly because Dolkka has more priority with it. Laggia + Dolkka > Laggia + Freezerdon. In simple terms. If you ever need more than 1 Laggia, or use all 3, somehow, you have Avarice. And you should be running Daigusto Emeral. And Lavalval Chain. Vylon Disigma is just bad. And nearly every Evol spell is bad, just because you can run much more useful cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Well, not all of the Spells are bad. Evo-Force works wonders with Najasho, while Evo-Variance pulls out monsters, and Primordial Soup recycles Evolsaurs. But I will modify my build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 [quote name='TheFinalFan' timestamp='1332954753' post='5892473'] Well, not all of the Spells are bad. Evo-Force works wonders with Najasho, while Evo-Variance pulls out monsters, and Primordial Soup recycles Evolsaurs. But I will modify my build. [/quote] Evo-Force is the one exception, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Darwinos is terrible, but using 3 Elias and 1 Terias works very well. That means that you are now given an extra slot in your maindeck to worth with in addition to 4 more slots in your Extra Deck to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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