Duel Portal - Duel with your created cards [SUPPORT THREAD] [ONLINE]

[Zazubat]

So, not only can someone you share with edit and delete your cards at will (and it doesn't even ask for confirmation -- as in "Are you sure?") but someone can edit/delete a card you are using in the middle of a duel and it will crash the duel.

 

 

The problems with that are mounting and the trolling potential is very high.

Well, you are only going to give your cards to people who aren't trolls, so I doubt it will be a problem. Though what is a problem is that it changes it for both people, simply changing it for one person seems like the best solution, or even taking out the whole editing all together, though I'm not sure if that's possible, at least not easily.

 

I have still yet to try DP out totaly, as I don't really have a set to test atm, but I will soon start to be more active when I finish my set up.

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

What about a creator x user system? Basically, the creator of the card has full control over what can be done with it, while else a user who has had said card shard to him/her from the creator only has limited access to it. 

[Shinobi Phoenix]

Well, you are only going to give your cards to people who aren't trolls, so I doubt it will be a problem. Though what is a problem is that it changes it for both people, simply changing it for one person seems like the best solution, or even taking out the whole editing all together, though I'm not sure if that's possible, at least not easily.

 

I have still yet to try DP out totaly, as I don't really have a set to test atm, but I will soon start to be more active when I finish my set up.

 

Then you miss the point that you don't know someone is a troll if they aren't obvious until they show their colors, not to mention there IS the situation where you just disagree and someone immature decides to be a dick.

 

You can't say there aren't situations where this can be a problem or used as a weapon, even if this had good intentions, but I don't understand why you can't just give "Read-Only" rights and they can only see and use the card instead of the only option being that you give them Editing Rights.

 

 

It's not exactly new to share documents with people (Google Drive/Docs anyone? I use that myself with people for YGO), but none of them force you to give edit rights, let alone ownership where you can even delete the data outright (and it's so easy to do it by accident too, Commit Changes is directly above touching the Delete Card option and it doesn't ask if you to confirm the deletion).

[Zazubat]

it doesn't ask if you to confirm the deletion

It doesn't? That's something that needs to be fixed as well. Anyway, back to your point, yes I can see that somebody might show their true colors, though you could have a backup for it. And while it's a bit annoying, at least it's not a huge problem right now. Of course, it's something Seattleite is going to have to rework at some point, though for now, simply not giving it to someone/making a back-up will work fine.

[Shinobi Phoenix]

It doesn't? That's something that needs to be fixed as well. Anyway, back to your point, yes I can see that somebody might show their true colors, though you could have a backup for it. And while it's a bit annoying, at least it's not a huge problem right now. Of course, it's something Seattleite is going to have to rework at some point, though for now, simply not giving it to someone/making a back-up will work fine.

 

 

I have a file that I have everything written on long before I show anyone else, does that mean I want to write all the data back in to recreate each deleted card?  I hardly want to do that the FIRST time now, with having to decide what to upload first to use and then have to upload each card and each support and each staple support and do it again and then repeat each time for the other decks and then realizing this is supposed to be a hobby in spare time, not work.  Maybe when you're a kid with not much to do, data entry doesn't seem like much, but most adults DREAD having to do it any more than necessary with the little time we get to ourselves (which reminds me, I still have to file my taxes...).

 

The only way creating cards is streamlined (and that's barely) is if one already had the YVD-format of cards in a document for fast copy-pasting (assuming THAT FILE has all the updates of the actual work file).  I suppose one might have to start copying the generated YVD text to another file for backup, but the fact you have to now have backups of that on top of the ones for your actual work just adds to unnecessary effort needed for this.  Ironically, I already HAVE a YVD file ready to go assuming I want to go through and update it. 

 

 

 

 

DP is using similar format to YVD, I haven't tested or asked what the differences between the two are (as in where it is categorizing what perimeter in the format).

 

Example (from my pre-written file):

 

|Jester Knight|01|AICD-JST|Spellcaster/Effect|Dark|4||1500|1500|Your opponent cannot target other [Jester] monsters for attacks. If this is the only face-up monster you control (ignoring any other "Jester Knight") when it battles an opponent's monster: Skip damage calculation and return the opponent's monster to the top of your opponent's Deck. During the end of the Battle Phase that this card attacks and the previous effect activates: Return all other monsters you control to your hand.|

 

 

Could I just copy-paste that right into the generator or are certain perimeter locations different compared to YVD and thus need to be switched around first?  (...though admittedly, I could do the work myself and put the same card into the generator and compare the codes to see what is changed around, but it can't help to ask anyway and avoid doing all that work myself.)

[Zazubat]

I have a file that I have everything written on long before I show anyone else, does that mean I want to write all the data back in to recreate each deleted card?  I hardly want to do that the FIRST time now, with having to decide what to upload first to use and then have to upload each card and each support and each staple support and do it again and then repeat each time for the other decks and then realizing this is supposed to be a hobby in spare time, not work.  Maybe when you're a kid with not much to do, data entry doesn't seem like much, but most adults DREAD having to do it any more than necessary with the little time we get to ourselves (which reminds me, I still have to file my taxes...).

 

The only way creating cards is streamlined (and that's barely) is if one already had the YVD-format of cards in a document for fast copy-pasting (assuming THAT FILE has all the updates of the actual work file).  I suppose one might have to start copying the generated YVD text to another file for backup, but the fact you have to now have backups of that on top of the ones for your actual work just adds to unnecessary effort needed for this.  Ironically, I already HAVE a YVD file ready to go assuming I want to go through and update it. 

 

 

 

 

DP is using similar format to YVD, I haven't tested or asked what the differences between the two are (as in where it is categorizing what perimeter in the format).

 

Example (from my pre-written file):

 

|Jester Knight|01|AICD-JST|Spellcaster/Effect|Dark|4||1500|1500|Your opponent cannot target other [Jester] monsters for attacks. If this is the only face-up monster you control (ignoring any other "Jester Knight") when it battles an opponent's monster: Skip damage calculation and return the opponent's monster to the top of your opponent's Deck. During the end of the Battle Phase that this card attacks and the previous effect activates: Return all other monsters you control to your hand.|

 

 

Could I just copy-paste that right into the generator or are certain perimeter locations different compared to YVD and thus need to be switched around first?

Tell me, how long does it take to copy and paste your text into a .txt? About 5 secs? I'm quite sure everybody has time for that. And if takes up so much of your time, maybe you should consider doing something that's actually productive instead of playing a game (too bad I don't have anything productive to do...)

 

here's some text I copied, took about 10-15 secs:

|Reptor Orchis||REP|Reptile/Synchro/Effect|Earth|6||2000|2500|1 "Reptor" Tuner Monster + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters

When this card is Synchro Summoned, your opponent adds 1 Monster Card from their deck to their hand. Once per turn, you can select 1 random card in your opponents hand and look at it: If its Monster Card, select 1 other random card in your opponnets hand and discard it. Then your opponent adds 1 Monster Card from their Graveyard to their hand. You must control this face-up monster to activate and and resolve this effect. This card cannot attack the turn you activate this effect.|

[Shinobi Phoenix]

Tell me, how long does it take to copy and paste your text into a .txt? About 5 secs?

 

You mean AFTER you already wrote it from another file into DP, each section, you know, what type of card it is, what the stats are (single line each), checking each box for everything it is and then repeat 30 times PER deck.  Before it was just add in the data and it's all fine after you already did all that data entry for a single deck.  Now you HAVE to create a backup just for DP because there's just one more thing that can go wrong?  I just said I had a YVD backup already as it is...which I stopped working on a long time ago... for the same reason.  Now I have to make ANOTHER ONE that I will still only use for one program and I can barely use the backup I have even though the game is already using similar code format because I still have to go in and change stuff first?

 

Do you know the word "tedious" or how about how much people hate it?  You must love to fill out surveys and paperwork... I hope your dream ambition is to be an accountant.  I hardly bother registering my games with Nintendo anymore (all those repeated surveys constantly).  I just don't see what you are arguing for.  Since you don't mind doing it, it's ok that everyone else has to?  it's too much to ask to minimize extra work needed for all this because it's getting a little med-to-high-maintenance.  I'm not even asking you directly for what it's worth you to argue about it.

[宇佐見 蓮子@C94]

Yay~

I got DP up and is able to upload my cards! Now you too can enjoy my horribly broken mess of cards! 

Username is Toyo-tan. PM me for a duel, since I'll never remember to be online otherwise.

Currently in the process of uploading my Xyz Daily and Magician's Advent, under the Special Filters of XYZD and MADV respectively. 

Yay~

 

EDIT: I can't seem to save my deck. Anyone else has this issue?

EDITIEDIT: Apparently I'm not the only one. Hope this gets fixed soon. Otherwise there will be blood.

[seattleite]

BTW-- The "http://duelportal.tk/" link still doesn't work, only the direct IP address version or does it just work for some and not others?

 

And yes, I would like a follow-up on this editing other people's cards issue?  The FAQ says it is for BOTH players as it says if the person the card is shared with DELETES it, it deletes it from both, even though they are not the original creator.

 

I assumed the sharing option was like sharing docs on Google Drive where you can give them "View Access", "Edit Access" or share full ownership but I suppose it automatically gives Edit Rights damn-near ownership rights.

 

I don't have any control over the domain name unfortunately. It just goes down from time to time.

 

Ok, so as it turns out, if someone else does edit your card, it shows up for you.

 

So, that is probably now on the list of things to fix. There's also the thing where if I were to edit a Fusion monster and then edit another, the Fusion box would be checked for the non-Fusion monster. It's not a big deal, but it's bound to lead to facepalming moments like the issue where the checkboxes would always reset to Aqua-Type.

 

Oh, and I'm glad to see that the text runs over in the lobby now. If I am allowed more "complaining about little things" time, I'd just like to say that when the limit for a line is reached, it does the ugly thing of breaking the words. Again, it's no big deal, just a little unnerving.

 

Well this is good to know :) Both can be fixed relatively quickly.

 

So, not only can someone you share with edit and delete your cards at will (and it doesn't even ask for confirmation -- as in "Are you sure?") but someone can edit/delete a card you are using in the middle of a duel and it will crash the duel.

 

 

The problems with that are mounting and the trolling potential is very high.

 

It wouldn't crash in the middle of a duel, but you wouldn't find it in your deck next time you open it.

 

I'll see if I can get some kind of read-only feature.

 

Could I just copy-paste that right into the generator or are certain perimeter locations different compared to YVD and thus need to be switched around first?  (...though admittedly, I could do the work myself and put the same card into the generator and compare the codes to see what is changed around, but it can't help to ask anyway and avoid doing all that work myself.)

 

Yes, DP uses the same format as YVD now ( although I would be very cautious as i've seen many "regulars" mess up YVD coding from time to time)

 

EDIT: I can't seem to save my deck. Anyone else has this issue?

 

Works fine for me. It seems you've saved your deck already, multiple times. But i'll look into why it was giving an error (when there wasn't one).

[Aix]

seattleite, is it possible to allow us to upload card pictures and have them appear immediately?

 

Is there a technical problem or are you worried that people will submit inappropriate pictures or something?

 

If it is the latter, could you have a safe uploaders list for people on this forum who are known to not upload porn?

[ledtitus]

Could there be another forum for posts related to DP and posts related to fixing DP here?

[TRUE RULER^(Imper.Di )]

Not to sound like a weenie but, I lost my Password to: DJx00 email: [email protected]

[seattleite]

seattleite, is it possible to allow us to upload card pictures and have them appear immediately?

 

Is there a technical problem or are you worried that people will submit inappropriate pictures or something?

 

If it is the latter, could you have a safe uploaders list for people on this forum who are known to not upload porn?

 

It's more of a technical problem. The images are hosted on dropbox and it's very strict about authorization and such. There's no easy, automated way to do it.

 

Could there be another forum for posts related to DP and posts related to fixing DP here?

 

We could try. Our last forum died out but if you want to have one I could get one.

 

Not to sound like a weenie but, I lost my Password to: DJx00 email: [email protected]

 

I'll PM u.

[Zazubat]

I don't think that a whole forum would be needed, but maybe a sub-forum on this site. Could be for Tournies, Deck Showcases and Discussing. Would also limit the amount of request posts I see in here.

[Loyalist]

I request a duel! Because I'm bored and in a bit of a bad mood and need to take my mind off things.

[Avaren]

if you are still on, I'll take a piece of that action

[Loyalist]

if you are still on, I'll take a piece of that action

GAME ON!

[TRUE RULER^(Imper.Di )]

Appears All/Almost all of my images are deleted. ? Dunno why. I'm still up to play anyone

[seattleite]

Not deleted, dropbox is just acting weird. I'll look into it.

[ledtitus]

I don't think that a whole forum would be needed, but maybe a sub-forum on this site. Could be for Tournies, Deck Showcases and Discussing. Would also limit the amount of request posts I see in here.

 

Am taking about having 1 forum for Dp activities and 1 for Dp fixing( bugs) etc. These will help us know better where to look to, other than just post everything here and making it be more of a mess.

 

@Sea- Yes that will help me lot!

[Zazubat]

 

Am taking about having 1 forum for Dp activities and 1 for Dp fixing( bugs) etc. These will help us know better where to look to, other than just post everything here and making it be more of a mess.

 

@Sea- Yes that will help me lot!

You mean a new topic? If that's what you mean, then yes support for that.

[Zacktheflash96]

Meant to ask a while back seattleite i have a request, could you try and add a banish from top of the deck function please? I dunno how hard it would be for you to implement but quite a few of my effects involve banishing from the top and it would be very useful, rather than having to mill then banish each time xD

[Kuri]

Noticed DP has a website that can run the game o.o Does that make the application obsolete? Or is the application and website both going to be used. Sorry haven't been active here in a year. 

[TRUE RULER^(Imper.Di )]

The desktop program cannot be used. You must use the website. The Online equivalent is usable BUT it is going through renovations constantly BUT IS CURRENTLY PLAYABLE, so come play sometime.(Username: DJx00 OR Imperium.D).

[Kuri]

What happened to the desktop version?