Structure Deck 24: Tribute to the Jurassic Deities (Comments Wanted)

[Agro]

Comments Wanted PLEASE (only 5 cards to talk about anyway, right?)

[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP001 Ancient Deity Tyranno (Ultra Rare)[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP002 Blazing Tyranno (Super Rare)[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP003 Tyranno Pulse (Super Rare)[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP004 Jurrac Aelo[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP005 Jurrac Dino[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP006 Jurrac Guiaba x2[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP007 Jurrac Ptera[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP008 Jurrac Velo x2[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP009 Jurrac Herra[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP010 Jurrac Tyranus[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP011 Blazing Hiita[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP012 Flame Spirit Ignis[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP013 Goka, the Pyre of Malice[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP014 Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP015 Miracle Jurassic Egg[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP016 Black Tyranno[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP017 Super-Ancient Dinobeast[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP018 Hyper Hammerhead[/b][/color]
[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP019 Cannon Soldier[/b][/color]
[color=#008000][b]SD24-JP020 Jurassic Altar[/b][/color]
[color=#008000][b]SD24-JP021 Enemy Controller[/b][/color]
[color=#008000][b]SD24-JP022 Axe of Despair[/b][/color]
[color=#008000][b]SD24-JP023 Share the Pain[/b][/color]
[color=#008000][b]SD24-JP024 Fossil Dig x2[/b][/color]
[color=#008000][b]SD24-JP025 Monster Gate[/b][/color]
[color=#008000][b]SD24-JP026 Big Evolution Pill[/b][/color]
[color=#008000][b]SD24-JP027 Tail Swipe[/b][/color]
[color=#008000][b]SD24-JP028 Foolish Burial[/b][/color]
[color=#008000][b]SD24-JP029 Pot of Duality[/b][/color]
[color=#008000][b]SD24-JP030 Monster Reborn[/b][/color]
[color=#ee82ee][b]SD24-JP031 Fire Fang[/b][/color]
[color=#ee82ee][b]SD24-JP032 Sealing Ceremony of Katon[/b][/color]
[color=#ee82ee][b]SD24-JP033 Bottomless Trap Hole[/b][/color]
[color=#ee82ee][b]SD24-JP034 Hunting Instincts[/b][/color]
[color=#ee82ee][b]SD24-JP035 Fossil Excavation[/b][/color]
[color=#ee82ee][b]SD24-JP036 Tyrant's Temper[/b][/color]
[color=#ee82ee][b]SD24-JP037 Spiritual Fire Art - Kurenai[/b][/color]

[color=#ff8c00][b]SD24-JP001 Ancient Deity Tyranno[/b]
[b]FIRE / Level 8[/b]
[b][ Dinosaur / Effect ][/b]
[b]You can Special Summon this card from your hand or Graveyard by tributing 2 Level 4 FIRE monsters. Once per turn: You can banish 1 FIRE monster in your Graveyard to target 1 Level 4 or lower FIRE monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon it.[/b]
[b]ATK / 2400 DEF / 1200[/b]

[b]SD24-JP002 Blazing Tyranno[/b]
[b]FIRE / Level 4[/b]
[b][ Dinosaur / Effect ][/b]
[b]If this monster is tributed: You can add 1 Level 4 Dinosaur-Type monster from your Deck to your hand. If you control a "Jurassic Altar", you can add 1 "Ancient Deity Tyranno" from your Deck to your hand instead.[/b]
[b]ATK / 1800 DEF / 200[/b]

[b]SD24-JP003 Tyranno Flare[/b]
[b]FIRE / Level 4[/b]
[b][ Dinosaur / Effect ][/b]
[b]You can Special Summon this card from your hand if you control exactly 1 Level 4 or lower FIRE monster. Once per turn: You can tribute 1 FIRE monster to target 1 monster your Opponent controls with an ATK equal to or lower than the ATK of the tributed monster; inflict damage equal to half of the targeted monster's ATK and increase the ATK of 1 monster you control by 600[/b]
[b]ATK / 1600 DEF / 200[/b][/color]

[color=#008000][b]SD24-JP020 Jurassic Altar[/b]
[b]Spell / Field[/b]
[b]Increase the ATK of all Dinosaur-Type monsters by 300. Once per turn, when a Dinosaur-Type monster is tributed: Banish 1 Dinosaur-Type monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon 1 Dinosaur-Type monster from your Deck with an ATK that is less than the banished monster.[/b][/color]

[color=#ee82ee][b]SD24-JP031 Fire Fang[/b]
[b]Trap[/b]
[b]Tribute 1 FIRE monster; destroy 2 cards your Opponent controls. Then your Opponent draws 1 card.[/b][/color]

Fixes would be appreciated. I'm sure I'll be adjusting more than a few things.

[Alice Moonflowyr]

Hmmm....I'm not very familiar with the Jurrac archtype...I'll comment on the CC.

Ancient Deity Tyranno I can already see being majorly abusable. Especially in Flamvells....

Blazing Tyranno is obviously the Searcher here. It looks pretty cool, although mebbe some cost/restriction stuff on it.

Tyranno Flare is, again, abusable with Deity. But it seems pretty cool on its own.

Jurassic Altar is pretty cool, no complaints there.

Fire Fang=Icarus Attack. That is all.

[Agro]

[quote name='Dworkin' timestamp='1332292099' post='5881446']
Hmmm....I'm not very familiar with the Jurrac archtype...I'll comment on the CC.

Ancient Deity Tyranno I can already see being majorly abusable. Especially in Flamvells....

[b]Well, yeah, that's true, I was sure to lower its ATK to 2400. The main idea here is obviously to make FIRE be more dominant as there's been too much focus on LIGHT and DARK.[/b]

Blazing Tyranno is obviously the Searcher here. It looks pretty cool, although mebbe some cost/restriction stuff on it.

[b]Yeah, there should probably be something more than what I have. Maybe make it Dinosaur-Type instead of FIRE.[/b]

Tyranno Flare is, again, abusable with Deity. But it seems pretty cool on its own.

[b]I'd say that technically speaking it's less abusable than Grapha, but then again, Grapha has no effect after being SS'd.[/b]

Jurassic Altar is pretty cool, no complaints there.

[b]Good, since the deck wouldn't function so cooly w/o it. xD[/b]

Fire Fang=Icarus Attack. That is all.

[b]Only difference is that it's a -1, which allows it to be less abusable while lowering the restrictions on what must be tributed.[/b]
[/quote]Alright, thanks for the comment!

[Alice Moonflowyr]

[quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332292569' post='5881452']
Alright, thanks for the comment!
[/quote]No prob! Its only fair after you commented on my Valkeries! Which I fixed btw.

[Agro]

[quote name='Dworkin' timestamp='1332292793' post='5881456']
No prob! Its only fair after you commented on my Valkeries! Which I fixed btw.
[/quote]Yup. I've also done 2 edits:
Removed the destruction evasion eff of ADT
Changed search function of Blazing Tyranno from FIRE to Dinosaur-Type.

[Alice Moonflowyr]

Much better.

[Kingdom Xathers]

It seems nowadays, people are making Searcher Pairs similar to Agent Earth/Hyperion. Not that I'm complaining, this one is actually pretty decent. And compared to Hyperion, Ancient Deity Tyranno seems rather balanced in its Destruction Immunity effect.

Overall, I would see this Deck as another way to use Evolzaurs... which I utterly HATE!! (mainly 'cuz I don't have the card IRL, lol) But without the evil influence that is Evilzaurs(pun intended), this sounds like a very fun deck. Kudos, Aggro. =3

[Kyng's Old Account]

Alright, I, too, am unfamiliar with how the Jurracs work, so I'll gladly do an indepth look at the CCs you've made, if that's alright:
[hr][b]SD24-JP001 Ancient Deity Tyranno
FIRE / Level 8
[ Dinosaur / Effect ]
You can Special Summon this card from your hand or Graveyard by tributing 2 Level 4 FIRE monsters. Once per turn: You can banish 1 FIRE monster in your Graveyard to target 1 Level 4 or lower FIRE monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon it.
ATK / 2400 DEF / 1200[/b]

Now I like this one: not only does it get out easily, but it also allows you to bring out your FIRE monsters. The concept of banishing to Sp Summon from said Graveyard is, in itself, balancing, as you’re taking out two cards, 1 +1 and 1 -1, and the level restriction works in the favor of Summoning more of these guys. Nice card, it may be restricted to the FIRE Attributes, but I reckon it’d provide some decent support all around.

[hr][b]SD24-JP002 Blazing Tyranno
FIRE / Level 4
[ Dinosaur / Effect ]
If this monster is tributed: You can add 1 Level 4 Dinosaur-Type monster from your Deck to your hand. If you control a "Jurassic Altar", you can add 1 "Ancient Deity Tyranno" from your Deck to your hand instead.
ATK / 1800 DEF / 200[/b]

Simple support for Ancient Deity; I appreciate how its high ATK works in it’s favour, and it’ll work well as a good searcher for general Dino-Decks. This’d also combo brilliantly with Super Conducter Tyranno, seeing as he’ll give a Black Ptera when necessary.

[hr][b]SD24-JP003 Tyranno Flare
FIRE / Level 4
[ Dinosaur / Effect ]
You can Special Summon this card from your hand if you control exactly 1 Level 4 or lower FIRE monster. Once per turn: You can tribute 1 FIRE monster to target 1 monster your Opponent controls with an ATK equal to or lower than the ATK of the tributed monster; inflict damage equal to half of the targeted monster's ATK and increase the ATK of 1 monster you control by 600
ATK / 1600 DEF / 200[/b]


Instant Rank 4, obviously. I, personally, find the latter effect slightly overpowering, even with the restriction on the Sp Summon, seeing as this guy is a guaranteed 2400 Beater if you have good support.

[hr][b]SD24-JP020 Jurassic Altar
Spell / Field
Increase the ATK of all Dinosaur-Type monsters by 300. Once per turn, when a Dinosaur-Type monster is tributed: Banish 1 Dinosaur-Type monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon 1 Dinosaur-Type monster from your Deck with an ATK that is less than the banished monster.[/b]

Once again, this works in favor of the Veteran Dinosaurs like Ultimate Tyranno, Black Tyranno, and Super Conducter Tyranno; it’s versatile and functional. I imagine this card would be run with a more Beater-based deck, though then again there are very few non-Beater Dinos around nowadays.

[hr][b]SD24-JP031 Fire Fang
Trap
Tribute 1 FIRE monster; destroy 2 cards your Opponent controls. Then your Opponent draws 1 card.[/b]

Wonderful IF you have the set-up. Icarus Attack except directed to your opponent plus he gets a Draw. Alright. I reckon making it similar to Kuraz would make this much more interesting, as well as support your drawing, but it’s not my card and it has been made exceedingly well.

[Agro]

[b][color=#ff0000]Well I'll just go through these comments real quick.[/color][/b]

[quote name='Kyng' timestamp='1332335026' post='5881970']
Alright, I, too, am unfamiliar with how the Jurracs work, so I'll gladly do an indepth look at the CCs you've made, if that's alright:
[hr][b]SD24-JP001 Ancient Deity Tyranno
FIRE / Level 8
[ Dinosaur / Effect ]
You can Special Summon this card from your hand or Graveyard by tributing 2 Level 4 FIRE monsters. Once per turn: You can banish 1 FIRE monster in your Graveyard to target 1 Level 4 or lower FIRE monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon it.
ATK / 2400 DEF / 1200[/b]

Now I like this one: not only does it get out easily, but it also allows you to bring out your FIRE monsters. The concept of banishing to Sp Summon from said Graveyard is, in itself, balancing, as you’re taking out two cards, 1 +1 and 1 -1, and the level restriction works in the favor of Summoning more of these guys. Nice card, it may be restricted to the FIRE Attributes, but I reckon it’d provide some decent support all around.

[b][color=#ff0000]Well, the first and really main thing I wanted to do with these cards was give some FIRE support, seeing as LIGHT and DARK have so much currently, so yeah. It works well in a lot of the FIRE decks out today and is extremely versatile.[/color][/b]

[hr][b]SD24-JP002 Blazing Tyranno
FIRE / Level 4
[ Dinosaur / Effect ]
If this monster is tributed: You can add 1 Level 4 Dinosaur-Type monster from your Deck to your hand. If you control a "Jurassic Altar", you can add 1 "Ancient Deity Tyranno" from your Deck to your hand instead.
ATK / 1800 DEF / 200[/b]

Simple support for Ancient Deity; I appreciate how its high ATK works in it’s favour, and it’ll work well as a good searcher for general Dino-Decks. This’d also combo brilliantly with Super Conducter Tyranno, seeing as he’ll give a Black Ptera when necessary.

[color="#ff0000"][b]...I keep forgetting that you don't really play competitively... Super Conductor is a terrible card, as is Black Ptera. The best cards, Dino-wise, are actually smaller guys that Special Summon others to go into Xyz. They're all very meticulous archetypes (namely, Evols and Jurracs) and less prone to just beatdown strategies.[/b][/color]

[hr][b]SD24-JP003 Tyranno Flare
FIRE / Level 4
[ Dinosaur / Effect ]
You can Special Summon this card from your hand if you control exactly 1 Level 4 or lower FIRE monster. Once per turn: You can tribute 1 FIRE monster to target 1 monster your Opponent controls with an ATK equal to or lower than the ATK of the tributed monster; inflict damage equal to half of the targeted monster's ATK and increase the ATK of 1 monster you control by 600
ATK / 1600 DEF / 200[/b]


Instant Rank 4, obviously. I, personally, find the latter effect slightly overpowering, even with the restriction on the Sp Summon, seeing as this guy is a guaranteed 2400 Beater if you have good support.

[color=#FF0000][b]Well, actually the only thing that I find OP'd is the fact that I gave it such easy summoning requirements. In most current decks he's easily Special Summonable and immediately becomes a Rank 4, namely Evolzar Laggia or Dolka. The effect is actually pretty simple and the only thing that you may find OP is the fact that the cost is only tributing, but there's only 1 card that really does well to tribute like that (FIRE monster-wise), so no one will really care if it can increase ATK.[/b][/color]

[hr][b]SD24-JP020 Jurassic Altar
Spell / Field
Increase the ATK of all Dinosaur-Type monsters by 300. Once per turn, when a Dinosaur-Type monster is tributed: Banish 1 Dinosaur-Type monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon 1 Dinosaur-Type monster from your Deck with an ATK that is less than the banished monster.[/b]

Once again, this works in favor of the Veteran Dinosaurs like Ultimate Tyranno, Black Tyranno, and Super Conducter Tyranno; it’s versatile and functional. I imagine this card would be run with a more Beater-based deck, though then again there are very few non-Beater Dinos around nowadays.

[color=#FF0000][b]Nothing works in favor of those Tyrannos... And its focus wouldn't be based on beaters, it'd be based on getting monsters out to Xyz or tribute.[/b][/color]

[hr][b]SD24-JP031 Fire Fang
Trap
Tribute 1 FIRE monster; destroy 2 cards your Opponent controls. Then your Opponent draws 1 card.[/b]

Wonderful IF you have the set-up. Icarus Attack except directed to your opponent plus he gets a Draw. Alright. I reckon making it similar to Kuraz would make this much more interesting, as well as support your drawing, but it’s not my card and it has been made exceedingly well.

[b][color=#ff0000]Basic idea: Give Dinos an Icarus Attack. I gave it a draw for the sole reason that the restrictions on the tributing are so loose and many decks wouldn't want to give up that extra card to the Opponent. But if using Dinosaurs, that limits it even more and would balance out that -1 to make it +0, like Icarus is.[/color][/b]
[/quote]

Thanks for the comments Kyng!

[CDDRodrigo]

They make for a great deck actually.

they already have access to Evolzars which makes everything better, and that boss monster increases the consistency a lot. I don't see the cards being broken either, although I feel like an hybrid of Lavals and those Dinos that could result in Synchro AND Evolzar spam could be problematic to the metagame.

[Agro]

[quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1332341470' post='5882052']
They make for a great deck actually.

they already have access to Evolzars which makes everything better, and that boss monster increases the consistency a lot. I don't see the cards being broken either, although I feel like an hybrid of Lavals and those Dinos that could result in Synchro AND Evolzar spam could be problematic to the metagame.
[/quote]My response is simple: AT LEAST IT WON'T BE DARK AND LIGHT, RIGHT? 8DDDDDD

But no, you're right about that, I'll just need to figure out if there are any small tweaks I can make.

Also... Evols kinda suck if you take away too much space to put in Jurracs. Though simply Velo and Guiaba are already run in a lot of decks.

But yeah, I wonder if it would be too problematic. The thing is, it'd probably not be as angering to play against as some other decks, like Wind-Ups or Inzektors. I think people would definitely prefer to have FIRE Dinos be a meta level deck.

[CDDRodrigo]

FIRE Dinos would be amazing as a metagame deck if we DIDN'T have Solemn and Divine Wrath on legs and wings.

[Agro]

[quote name='CDDRodrigo' timestamp='1332342027' post='5882062']
FIRE Dinos would be amazing as a metagame deck if we DIDN'T have Solemn and Divine Wrath on legs and wings.
[/quote]Actually, you lost me. Explain?

[CDDRodrigo]

[quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332344875' post='5882115']
Actually, you lost me. Explain?
[/quote]

I would not like a metagame based on Evolzars if their deck could be even more consistent than Rabbit.

[Agro]

But it IS a deck based on managing resources. There's a chance that they will be easy to disrupt. I guess playing them may be the only way to know though.