Lonk Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 With the confirmation of SSB4 happening last year and Sakurai starting production, it is time for the prediction season. Since the official Smash Bros. Thread is dead, I thought that this would be a good thread that can generate some worthwhile discussion. So, if one would want to suggest what characters/stages/music tracks/ect, they must make at least 6 sentences backing up why they would want that character/stage/music track/other to be in the game and/or why they would be good for the Smash Bros. Universe. Debates on how the character/stage/music track are welcome, since it promotes thinking. After all, SSB possibilities are not only a meme, but quite a useful discussion generator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Well, I heard something on Youtube about Ghirahim being in SSB4. Personally, as for new charecters, I expect...... Zorark ( replacing Lucario ) Sora ( Kingdom Hearts ) Geno ( Super Mario RPG ) Isaac ( Golden Sun ) Ameratsu ( Okami ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
❤ Lovely Warrior ❤ Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 I see no more than 1 or two non Nentindo characters getting in. It IS a Nintendo game after all. The characters I see making it in are Zoroark (Replacing Lucario), Krystal (Either replacing Wolf or as an addition), Dixxy Kong (Since she was going to be in Brawl), and maybe another Link clone like Young Link, or Toon Link, or a Zelda clone like Toon Zelda. For 3rd party characters any Capcom character is out since Capcom down right refuses to have anything to do with it but Square Enix has a chance to have a character or two in the game. I would like to see Geno, Black Mage, White Mage, or Ninja. NO Cloud if they are going to include a character It should be one that has actually appeared on a Nintendo console and has appeared either recently, in a game with Nintendo characters, or as a classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 I want more focus on skill. (and a more combo based engine) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
❤ Lovely Warrior ❤ Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1331402869' post='5864668'] I want more focus on skill. (and a more combo based engine) [/quote] I think its fine the way it is but I would like them to switch it back to Melee style were it was fast and crazy and fun as hell not slow and boring like Brawl was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='❤ Lovely Warrior ❤' timestamp='1331403025' post='5864677'] I think its fine the way it is but I would like them to switch it back to Melee style were it was fast and crazy and fun as hell not slow and boring like Brawl was. [/quote] I want it so the characters don't float like balloons and I can combo them. It would make games much more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
❤ Lovely Warrior ❤ Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 They only do that in Brawl and in the others it all depends on who you play as. Combos wouldn't work well in Smash Bros since Smash Bros tries to keep everything as simple as possible and so you rely more on skill than just juggling people in a never ending combo. Adding in combos would make things more complected having to input long button combinations and would turn off some fans of the series. I personally hate long button combinations becuase over half the time I can't get them. Which is why I like Smash Bros' easy to use controls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted March 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 I would also like to see more comboing. I loved brawl and all, but the combat was too slow. Compare the Wombo Combo from Melee and the Wombo Combo from Brawl: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD_imYhNoQ4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD_imYhNoQ4[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi3bi5WfwXA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi3bi5WfwXA[/url] Even though the 2nd video was a joke, it is quite easy to see the speed difference in the games. Also, I would absolutely love to see Lloyd in the 4th game, and I have my reasons as well: 1) Tales of series was genuinely unknown internationally. However, Tales of Symphonia's release gave the series as a whole much more international popularity. Even then, the series is still quite underrated and, therefore, a Tales represenative can boost the series' popularity. Considering that Lloyd is the main protagonist of Symphonia, the game that put the game on the international map, it would be a good move to put him in. Also, Lloyd has appeared mainly on Nintendo Platform games (Symphonia, SC Legends, and Dawn of the New World/Knight of Ratatosk, ect.). Despite being a 3rd party character, he would fit in perfectly to the universe. 2) Lloyd Irving's moveset is possibly the most easiest for Sakurai to do. Because the Tales series has a strikingly similar combat engine to that of the Smash Bros. series, it really should not be hard to set Lloyd's moves. Lloyd's combat style was practically meant to be put in brawl. 3) There were subtle hints shown that Namco wanted him to be in Brawl. Soul Caliber Legends had Lloyd in it as a guest character, probably because he couldn't make it onto Brawl. Dawn of the New World was made, not just because the fans wanted a continuation from where Symphonia left off, but also to expose more of Lloyd to the world. Even though he wasn't represented well, the intention was pretty clear that Namco wanted him to be in the next Smash Bros. game. 4) Even though Lloyd is not in the top 50 video game characters in Japan, Lloyd Irving is well-liked there, being number 5 in the top Tales characters. 5) Smashboards, the premier Smash Bros. forum, wants him to be in there. They even made a professional and extensive hack of him over Wolf just to fill the void that Lloyd wasn't even in Brawl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Music wise, I expect...... Ghettis Theme, Elite 4 Theme, N's Theme ( Pokemon Black and White ) Probably some Luigi's Mansion 2 Music Ho-oh Theme ( Pokemon HG ) Yin Yarn Battle ( Kirby Cancas Curse ) Groose's Theme ( LoZ Skyward Sword ) Ultimate Show ( Super Paper Mario ) Music from Kid Icarus Uprising Music from Metroid Other M Music from Super Mario Galaxy Primal Dialga ( Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2 ) Final Boss Music from Bowser's Inside Story Should Sonic and Snake return, music from their games Music from Donkey Kong Country Returns Masked Dedede ( Kirby Super Star Ultra ) Various songs from Kingdom Hearts should Sora be in it I can see Lucas and Lucario not returning. Wario, Jigglypuff, Ice Climbers, and Mr. Game and Watch might get the axe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted March 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 I have a feeling Wario is still going to stay. More specifically, I hope the Final Battle with N theme makes it in. Also, Yin-Yarn battle was from Epic Yarn, not Canvas Curse. I also want the Gym Leader's Final Pokemon to make it in. Also, from Tales of Symphonia, the music should include Beat the Angel, Fighting of the Spirit, Fatalize, the Tower of Salvation, and End of a Thought. Character-wise, Issac has a large chance of making it in. It was a disappointment to see him left out of the playable roster in Brawl. Also, Zoroark would be a good addition. What I would really like to see as a stage is the Venus Lighthouse and the Tower of Salvation's entrance chamber. Venus Lighthouse would have main ground to battle on, and uppercutting your opponent with a strong A^ attack would knock them down into the tower, where the Earth Energy would make them fly upward. Meanwhile, there are also two elevators that can get you a bit lower into the level. The Tower of Salvation chamber would have a Double-Decker Ground, where there will be a lower level and an upper level that is soft ground. There will also be caskets of dead people floating on the far edges of the stage. These caskets will count as platforms. The ones on the left would start at the left bottom and ascend upward to the right while the ones on the right will start on the right top and descend downward to the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 The way I want the combo system to work is your attacks get additional ground and wallbounces depending on your opponent's damage, and you can convert single hits into 100%+ with enough skill on the right stage. I also want a combo counter, just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Shard, stop wanting to turn SSB into every other fighting game in existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Shradow' timestamp='1331416861' post='5865027'] Shard, stop wanting to turn SSB into every other fighting game in existence. [/quote] I'm not. combos still exist in smash, they're just not clearly defined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
❤ Lovely Warrior ❤ Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 I think its fine and should stay the way it is. Also the DK Crew for SSB4 [img]http://donkeykong.neoseeker.com/w/i/donkeykong/thumb/d/db/DKRapDK64_%282%29.jpg/275px-DKRapDK64_%282%29.jpg[/img] But using Tiny's new look... [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100520180332/fanon/images/a/a7/Tiny_Kong.png[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherz Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 I would like to see the mii in it. Why, because the mii is in alot of wii games. Also, wouldnt be awesome to have basicly u fighting in vit. The mii are typicly all around characts. The miis are just epic. Do I need to continue??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 [quote name='sirluke99' timestamp='1331418807' post='5865062'] I would like to see the mii in it. Why, because the mii is in alot of wii games. Also, wouldnt be awesome to have basicly u fighting in vit. The mii are typicly all around characts. The miis are just epic. Do I need to continue??? [/quote] [s]The mii was a terrible ugly rip off of the Microsoft Avatar[/s] I personally would hate it, and it doesn't even seem like it'd have any special moves, unless you want to bring boxing and swordfighting sports into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 [quote name='Ctrl' timestamp='1331485054' post='5866039'] The mii was a terrible ugly rip off of the Microsoft Avatar [/quote] Well, seeing as the Mii came first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Having Toon Zelda (Who could transform into Tetra, of course) would be pretty awesome, I'd say. Who'd esentially be what Toon Link is to Regular Link; Better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 [quote name='Shradow' timestamp='1331486053' post='5866082'] Well, seeing as the Mii came first... [/quote] Really? Wasnt the 360 before wii? No? Whoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Well, the 360 was before the Wii I think, but the avatars weren't implemented until later, but the Miis were with the Wii from the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted March 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 One possibility I don't see happening is Ridley. After all, seeing Ridley as a boss in brawl eliminated his chances of being a playable character due to how unusual his combat style would be if he was a playable character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Plus, him being downsized to the degree it would take to make him, say Bowser's size, it would be too weird. Petey Piranha would be more likely, if they were to add any sort of boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted March 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 I know downsizing Ridley would work, but the fact that he is in the air or on some kind of perch 90% of the time would make him feel akward to play with. Petey can actually be downsized, and he does have a good set of moves to use to warrant him as a playable character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted March 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 So, no one has any counters about Lloyd being in the next Smash Bros. game (other than the pointless "he's a 3rd party character who's particularly unknown")? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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