Mehmani Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 I honestly don't care if Osama was a scapegoat, one agrees with Iraq because intervention to depose despots (not bad, eh?) is the type of foreign policy I advocate. Iraq was done very poorly and I think there should have been a lot more care and planning but the act of intervention itself I agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vairocana Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Because America: World's Policeman, enforcing our morals on everyone else whether they want it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 [quote name='Vairocana' timestamp='1332255982' post='5880400'] Because America: World's Policeman, enforcing our morals on everyone else whether they want it or not. [/quote] "Our Morals"? You mean, basic human rights? Such a terrible thing, or course...Edmund Burke's most famous quote is "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. And your solution to all these unjust murders of innocents and ideological killings and oppressive, violent dictatorships is to hope and wish that they may end? If God has the power to stop evil but does not, he is malevolent. We have the power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Tim Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 People like this have been all over the news lately...... First they talk about that corrupt egyptian guy..... Then They shoot Osama Bin Laden.... Then Gahdafi is killed...... Koney (Need I say more) [b]NOW THIS!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?![/b] [b]OT: [/b]Nothings going to get done immediatley, besides what are americans/canadians/ any other 1st world country gonna do? Yah we could spend money and risk lives to free a pretty irrelevant country and kill the guy but then another civilian jumps to power thinks he can rule then corrupts the place again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 [quote name='Vairocana' timestamp='1332195553' post='5879312'] aliensguy[/quote] Would probably be oblivious to the fact that Uganda has no significant oil supplies and that the US has an ever-increasing amount of bases across the world that is still increasing. [quote]I see morality very much tied into intent of action. But that's a very big and nebulous can of worms that I don't really want to open.[/quote] The given ruling doesn't involve quite as many worms. If it was done after prompting you'd say it didn't count. If it was done without prompting or had minimal prompting you'd give it some ulterior motive. When something like morality is largely up in the air you can easily say anything a group you disagree with is immoral and in the wrong whenever they do anything. [quote]It doesn't sit well with me for some reason. [/quote] And for others, the fact that they're causing the deaths of thousands doesn't sit well with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vairocana Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 [quote name='Dт. Михаи́л Ботви́нник PчD' timestamp='1332263135' post='5880543'] "Our Morals"? You mean, basic human rights? Such a terrible thing, or course...Edmund Burke's most famous quote is "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. And your solution to all these unjust murders of innocents and ideological killings and oppressive, violent dictatorships is to hope and wish that they may end? If God has the power to stop evil but does not, he is malevolent. We have the power. [/quote] Look, the White Savior complex. I'm not necessarily advocating some laissez faire hide-our-heads-in-the-ground kind of action (WW2 clearly showed us that that does not work), but you seem to be advocating for strong military intervention in literally dozens of countries around the world. Some of which don't want us there. The US sanctions plenty of countries being ruled by people we don't like, but military might is not something that should just be thrown out there at the slightest sign of trouble. There is nothing that gives us the moral right to invade a country because we don't like how it's being ruled. [quote=]Would probably be oblivious to the fact that Uganda has no significant oil supplies and that the US has an ever-increasing amount of bases across the world that is still increasing.[/quote] But...what if the military bases around the world are secretly searching for more oil? [img]http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/conspiracy-keanu-template.jpg[/img] [quote=]The given ruling doesn't involve quite as many worms. If it was done after prompting you'd say it didn't count. If it was done without prompting or had minimal prompting you'd give it some ulterior motive. When something like morality is largely up in the air you can easily say anything a group you disagree with is immoral and in the wrong whenever they do anything.[/quote] Really, it's only moral if God directly tells our president it is. Ok, but really, I'll concede this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 [quote name='Vairocana' timestamp='1332278410' post='5880981'] But...what if the military bases around the world are secretly searching for more oil? [/quote] They don't need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vairocana Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 [quote name='~Coolio~' timestamp='1332293647' post='5881483'] They don't need to. [/quote] That's exactly what I'd expect someone from the government to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 [quote name='Vairocana' timestamp='1332299870' post='5881659'] That's exactly what I'd expect someone from the government to say. [/quote] Probably. But, seeing as expanses for economic purpose have been done after the benefit emerged I doubt this would be some sort of new case. Anything not about supplies would likely be against China, such as the mounting troops in Australia, but this doesn't help there either. Until something bigger emerges I'll just assume some guy made some money off of hipsters while the public outcry got the government to do something, or at the least tried to get them to stop as the Kony director got arrested for public masturbation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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