taker55 Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 this is a disscussion about red eyes black metal dragon do you think it can beat blue eyes shiny dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Yes, because Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon is actually playable in a decent decktype. Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon is bad everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Yes' date=' because Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon is actually playable in a decent decktype. Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon is bad everywhere.[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Also, there's something else that should be noted. Look at these: Now, look at this: You can tell just by looking at him how much more awesome Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon is. Go on, take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzumakinaruto93 Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 yeah the red-eyes on the right have an awsome picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 REBMD looks like the original only more shiny while BESD looks like a mechanic slob. REBMD is more playable and can easily fit in many decks unlike BESD. bottom line- REBMD>BESD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterOfMagicians Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Blue Eyes Shining Dragon actually has a better chance of being brought to the field than Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon.Reason:1) To Summon Blue Eyes Shining Dragon you only need 1 Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon on the field. How do you get it on the field? Simple, use a lot of cards that replace monsters in fusions. The Ultimate Dragon doesn't require a fusion of JUST Blue Eyes White Dragons, and you can also use cards that speed up fusion. Who cares if the fusion material monsters are removed from play? In a matter of a few turns you have Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon out, with anywhere between 3000 and 4200 ATK power. 2) To summon Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon it can ONLY be Special Summoned if the card is still in your deck. Notice in the card name it doesn't say you can bring it from your hand. ONLY from the deck to the playing field IF You have Red Eyes Black Dragon equipped with Metal Morph already on the field. Your chances of getting those two cards to come up and still have the Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon in the deck is very slim. All in all, Blue Eyes Shining Dragon wins this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 but it deosnt fit in all decks, you will need a deck based on this card if you want to get it easily whereas REBMD can fit in any Dark and Dragons deck, well almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterOfMagicians Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Not really, you have to form the deck around the REBMD as well. If you are in a duel, and have that deck, the last thing you want to keep drawing in a tight situation is cards you can't use (REBMD is one of them!). Yes, its only 2 extra cards, but think about it. 2 cards make all the difference in a duel. You are facing down your opponent's 3000 attack point monster, you have a red eyes black dragon on the field, you need one card to save yourself and you draw.....REBMD. or You are sitting there with a Tyrant Dragon, your opponent has Magician of Black Chaos equipped with a spell card bringing its attack to 3500. You managed to stop its first attack, but now you have no useful traps protecting you, and only 400 lifepoints. You need to draw to save yourself and you get....Metalmorph. Yes, its nice, and it will save 300 of your lifepoints from being destroyed, but what is going to protect those 300 lifepoints from the monster he'll summon next turn? Point is, if those cards weren't in the way, you might have been able to draw something a tad more useful. In a BESD deck, you can still keep all of your original cards in your deck. No changes need to be made because all you are adding is that one card. There are even cards that allow you to bring fusion monsters directly from the fusion-deck zone you can add. Now all you have to do is draw that card and BAM you have your shining dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 not really too. a simple dragons deck with REBD can work, just put the two cards and you get the opportunity to summon REBMD. for having BESD in your deck you need at least 3 BEWD, 1 BEUD, 1 Poly and 1 BESD.for having REBMD in your deck you need 1 REBD, 1 Metalmorph and 1 REBMD meaning it uses less cards and therefore less chances of drawing useless cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterOfMagicians Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 actually, you don't even need that. I forget the card name, but you automatically special summon 1 fusion monster from your fusion deck zone. I forget the cost, and I am pretty sure you cannot attack with it, but you can use it to bring out BESD. So really for that you only need 2 cards instead of 5.REBMD you still need a minimum of 3 cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 but there is still the cost and if you want to deck it then you have to depend on it and that might be a bit of a dismay if you cant get it whereas if you put REBMD you really dont need to depend on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Not that you should be summoning either card. REBMD is to be Trade-in fodder. Shining cannot. Therefor, REBMD is superior. They should make a Dragon draw card. That would be the key to making a top-tier Dragon deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzi Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 REBMD > BESDOh, and REBMD in a Dark/Dragon deck is instant fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 The whole argument between CD and MOM is flawed for this reason: Neither REBMD nor BESD should ever hit the field. REBMD, however, is what makes Chimeratech Overdragon a good decktype. BESD is what makes...um...yeah, he doesn't really fit into ANY decent deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfmvrocks Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 REBMD pwn's BESD. I bet someone will come in and say "Use Future Fusion and Dragon's Mirror to get BEUD and tribute it." I'm gonna XD. Woot, 600 Posts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 The whole argument between CD and MOM is flawed for this reason: Neither REBMD nor BESD should ever hit the field. REBMD' date=' however, is what makes Chimeratech Overdragon a good decktype. BESD is what makes...um...yeah, he doesn't really fit into ANY decent deck.[/quote'] No you're just biased. REBMD is what makes your Chimeratech Overdragon deck a good one. Not Chimeratech in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 At least it makes even 1 good deck go round. Blue Eyes Shining is just a fugly waste of shiny cardboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XanderTheGreat Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 ... This whole topic reminds me of how much Redrum is GOD in the form of a dragon. Awesome. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 This thread is chalked full of win. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kcWRu2XC_A&feature=PlayList&p=Mnnl03_T9jU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 This thread is chalked full of win. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kcWRu2XC_A&feature=PlayList&p=Mnnl03_T9jU >.> This necrobump is full of win. Edit: I saw this video yesterday :D Anyways not a valid reason to bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 This thread is chalked full of win. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kcWRu2XC_A&feature=PlayList&p=Mnnl03_T9jU >.> This necrobump is full of win. Edit: I saw this video yesterday :D Anyways not a valid reason to bump. Umm; if that's not, I'm sure that the concept of Necro bumping being hilarious is one, if not that, my incredible tiredness for spending the entire early morning on YCM (hey, better than Warcraft), and many other valid reasons support this necro bump, kay punk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paladin of mana Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 In my opinion is that Blue Eyes Shinning Dragon is a card best used by main characters who can draw cards when needed, expect when the plot requires otherwise. REMD on the other hand, works for Human Players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 This thread is chalked full of win. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kcWRu2XC_A&feature=PlayList&p=Mnnl03_T9jU >.> This necrobump is full of win. Edit: I saw this video yesterday :D Anyways not a valid reason to bump. I'm sorry, but that it worthy of a necro bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 OMFG MASTER OF MAGICIANS IS A FCUKING IDIOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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