CDDRodrigo Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 I need a lot of help in this. HEROes seem to be a very good take at current's meta. [img]http://i.imgur.com/fEZ5o.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 -2 MST +1 Spark +1 Blast And lose an Xyz (probably Pearl) for another Nova Master. You don't need MSTs in main because of Spark and because backrow doesn't phase the deck... at all really. Nova Master because Zenmaines is a card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='evilchris' timestamp='1330641771' post='5850469'] -2 MST +1 Spark +1 Blast And lose an Xyz (probably Pearl) for another Nova Master. You don't need MSTs in main because of Spark and because backrow doesn't phase the deck... at all really. Nova Master because Zenmaines is a card. [/quote] Very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Tracks Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 It feels like you're trying to mix the anit-meta-y one with the Rank 4 spamy one. I wouldn't run more then one Hero Blast if you main triple Miracle Fusion. It'll be a dead more then you want it to. I'd also cut a Super Poly for a Mask Change or Parallel World Fusion. This deck seems to either have its had set most of the time so you either won't have something to discard for Super Poly or you won't want to discard what you have in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='Tiger Tracks' timestamp='1330642664' post='5850500'] It feels like you're trying to mix the anit-meta-y one with the Rank 4 spamy one. I wouldn't run more then one Hero Blast if you main triple Miracle Fusion. It'll be a dead more then you want it to. I'd also cut a Super Poly for a Mask Change or Parallel World Fusion. This deck seems to either have its had set most of the time so you either won't have something to discard for Super Poly or you won't want to discard what you have in hand. [/quote] 1. Have you read Elemental HERO The Shining? 2. Super Poly is a must @3. 3. Mask Change and PWF are terrible. 4. There's this thing called a playstyle, it's tailored to different deck types... Yeah Heroes don't just randomly set their whole hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Tracks Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 1. Yes, I have. It's just that the best Miracle Fusion targets for him are Alius and Stratos so you can enable Spark plays and plus respectively. This means Alius will be either in your hand or banished most of the time; another words Hero Blast becomes less playable. Additionally with MST being seen at three more often and Torrential being at two it becomes that much easier for any competent player to force The Shining to miss the timing. 2. No it's not and I'd appreciate YCM to stop thinking that it is. Super Poly eats ups your hand. Since most of your hand will be set because of the monster engine he's using, Super Poly becomes that much worse. If he had a way to replenish hand advantage quickly than triple Poly would be fine. 3. Mask Change isn't the greatest no, but it's targets are. Vapor is good - especially with Absolute Zero - and the other Masked Hero isn't terrible. Parallel Fusion off the bat isn't a -1 like the other two are and lets you recycle Stratos to make E-Calls live again and enables future Stratos -> Bubbleman plays. Which is worth considering. 3. I know different decks have different play styles. This is why I said: [quote] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]It feels like you're trying to mix the anit-meta-y one with the Rank 4 spamy one.[/size][/font][/color] [/quote] The two decks play differently. The anti-meta one is anti-meta and will try to plus off of Gemini Spark and The Shining. The Rank 4 version with Bubbleman comes from OCG land which is practically a different play-style by itself. The Rank 4 build wants to set its hand so it can summon Stratos, search Bubbleman, special summon Bubbleman, and make a Rank 4. The Miracle Fusions, Super Poly, Mask Change, and Fusion Gates are played in this deck to alleviate the small monster count. OT: I still think you should cut Hero Blast. They generally get worse when you play more Miracle Fusions. Unless you can get a way to recover hand advantage, I would also suggest cutting Super Poly down to 2. Maxx "C" can do that but can but can get stuck in your hand and mess up Bubbleman plays. Card Car might have the same problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 I'm only running Bubbleman because Ab0 is a card, and a great one at it. And Bubbleman gives easier access to Blade Armor Ninja, which is an amazing game pusher. And honestly, Xyz Spam HEROes suck .-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 lol he tried to compare me to the rest of YCM. Also, played right, Hero Blast is amazing. That and you have 3 Alius, not 1. You use 1 and Stratos generally for the Shining. You can then have another in grave. I know, how insane is that?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Tracks Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1330648623' post='5850829'] I'm only running Bubbleman because Ab0 is a card, and a great one at it. And Bubbleman gives easier access to Blade Armor Ninja, which is an amazing game pusher. And honestly, Xyz Spam HEROes suck .-. [/quote] Then play a more reliable HERO Beat or Rescue HEROs. At least use Ice Edge or Ocean. Bubbleman sucks. [quote name='evilchris' timestamp='1330649083' post='5850850'] lol he tried to compare me to the rest of YCM. Also, played right, Hero Blast is amazing. That and you have 3 Alius, not 1. You use 1 and Stratos generally for the Shining. You can then have another in grave. I know, how insane is that?! [/quote] Between your attitude and that after how long I've been on YCM and still don't know who you are; it seems reasonable. Played right anything is good. That isn't a reason to play three though. It's not likely to have enough Alius targets though out the game to warrant triple HERO Blast. It'll dead draw too much and you can't count on recycling them through The Shining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianGuy1137 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 If you REALLY want to run Bubbleman, it should be maxed out with Rai-Ohs cut down + ridiculous amount of traps/handtraps. Otherwise, the above post covers my thoughts. Super Poly should go down to 2, Hero Rescue should go down to 1 at most purely because it's not too consistent in this build, Maxx C is a great card to max out, and Veiler is great to try out at 2. You could also try 1 Evocator Chevalier since he's a Gemini Spark and Nova Master target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 [quote name='AsianGuy1137' timestamp='1330654180' post='5851014'] Hero Rescue should go down to 1 at most purely because it's not too consistent in this build [/quote] If you mean E-Call, you gotta be kidding me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Tracks Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 He means Hero Blast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 But it's very consistent =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yugipwn Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 bubbleman is bad. his effect is extremely situational and is only good when you and your opponent are top decking. you should give ice edge a try. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Ice_Edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Ice Edge is a cool guy indeed, I'll try, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yugipwn Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 whoo hoo!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 I've seen people actually play this Deck with Shard of Greed. Not sure your thoughts on that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Shard of Greed is a smart tech in many anti-meta oriented decks, but I'm not sure if I can find space for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Never seen Shard of Greed work well in HEROes. Also, are you aiming more on a BubbleBeat playstyle, or more of an Ice Edge playstyle? This is when it comes down to deciding. Bubbleman playstyle leads to a more explosive possibility. Ice Edge baits out their backrows for more conservative play. But this is for you to decide which playstyle suits you better. Either way, I advise testing 1 Photon Thrasher over a Hero Blast or something. It's a very nice 2100 beater that's easy to get on the board, and is searchable by RotA and lets you go Blade Armor easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Thanks for the suggestions guys. This deck is the best deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Not enough Knospe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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