J-Max Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Hello YCM. I am looking for 4-5 Graphics Designers to help out with the Design of the Awards themselves after the Awards are over. The last Awards were a Disaster due to GFX Designers leaving left and right. I need people to be willing and able to help out the whole way. I will be paying 2000 Points to each GFX Member that completes their task (Doesn't have to be as soon as after the Awards but it would help.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 I will double any payment you give out. This might be better posted in the gfx showcase section as well. (I'll pin) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Thanks Yin When I go on myy PC later I will.com Unless LZ or another Mod could move it for me please? Thankies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 I'd rather have food than points. Thank you<3 Oh, that means I'll join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Joining as well. And... [quote name='Ɽarity' timestamp='1329166677' post='5815105'] I'd rather have food than points. Thank you<3 [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 lol, you're both more then Welcome ^^ Feel free to contact me By PM or here if you would like to have certain Awards to design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durandamon Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I'm sorry...I would like to, if you don't mind of course...to try this...I mean, I'm not that good but I, well I can help...of course, if it's okay with you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 XD No need to be so modest around me. Of course you can give it a go. If however you find it to be too much for you then just let me know ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durandamon Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Great, I'll do my best, when is the deadline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Not until after the awards of course. I'll be asking you all which Awards you would like to design via PM> I reckon 2 Weeks after the Awards end is plenty of time :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durandamon Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Great, thanks again. I'll be willing to do any of the awards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 The thing with this type of project is that the outcome will be a singular style, if designed by 4-5 people you lose that singularity and the set as a whole looks unprofessional and does not work well. You also have the trouble in getting your ideas across to 4-5 people every step of the way, and then the clear fact that a piece designed by a fairly new member, as opposed to a design by a vet will be monumentally different in regards of quality, so not only will you now have two completely different styles, but you will now have a quality issue. There's also the other obvious issue here, the dropouts. Every time the awards roll around someone inevitably resigns from the task without even making it clear to the others on the task. This is not a problem in a professional workplace because the quality is of the same range, ideas can be shared with ease and understanding, and there is relatively no dropouts due to a complete interest in the task. This is YCM, not a professional workplace, so I'm going to assume you see the issue. However, there is another way to get such results, hire a single artist. I would be willing to do the awards in entirety, this would resolve most if not all the issues presented. I do not require any points for my work, however I do ask to be credited at all times. Thank you for your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 [quote name=''Nw' timestamp='1329221453' post='5816288'] The thing with this type of project is that the outcome will be a singular style, if designed by 4-5 people you lose that singularity and the set as a whole looks unprofessional and does not work well. You also have the trouble in getting your ideas across to 4-5 people every step of the way, and then the clear fact that a piece designed by a fairly new member, as opposed to a design by a vet will be monumentally different in regards of quality, so not only will you now have two completely different styles, but you will now have a quality issue. There's also the other obvious issue here, the dropouts. Every time the awards roll around someone inevitably resigns from the task without even making it clear to the others on the task. This is not a problem in a professional workplace because the quality is of the same range, ideas can be shared with ease and understanding, and there is relatively no dropouts due to a complete interest in the task. This is YCM, not a professional workplace, so I'm going to assume you see the issue. However, there is another way to get such results, hire a single artist. I would be willing to do the awards in entirety, this would resolve most if not all the issues presented. I do not require any points for my work, however I do ask to be credited at all times. Thank you for your time. [/quote] As much as I'd love tons of people to have a chance at this, Nightwalker's right. The problems last time were: 1. people becoming inactive. 2. but mainly about 300 billion ideas circulating and us getting nowhere because we had nothing to do with them. I guess the best thing to say is 'too many cooks spoil the broth'. And in this case, 5 or so with 5 back-up is by far way too many. Not to mention that you want each award to be slightly different considering you've said several times in this topic that you want people to design 'certain awards', meaning that each award will be different. Eh, it would have worked better if people worked from a template, but we did that last time, and it failed. Miserably. One designer or a very small group of designers who understand each others' styles should ideally be doing this. And considering it's impossible to find people who have similar styles here, one designer and some back-up is completely fine. But then the problem is that if there are like 30 really random awards like last time which made no sense, there'll be increased workload. For no reason. For one person. I'm probably not gonna sign up because it is a pretty winded process even it if improves considerably after last time, but I'm just gonna spout some true thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 But I didn't want to put pressure on one person to do ALL of them. That's why I thought of giving a Chunk of the same theme to each person. So one person does say Custom Cards. If one artist would be willing to do them all within say 2 Weeks after the Awards have ended then my Points offer would be 10000 for that Single person + 10000 from Yin. It's everyone's Awards so throwing this idea in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think it would be best for you to organize and process exactly what it is you would like down to the smallest detail. It is apparent you still don't know exactly what you expect as an outcome. This essentially is the exact thing we do not want to repeat. I would suggest listing exactly what you want, preferably detailed, and I personally will help you decide how to go about executing your plans before we begin the designing phase. Going into this everyone needs to be well aware on what needs to be done, because it is a mystery to all of us as of now. I personally would like this to succeed for the first time, because I'm sure many of us are tired of failing and making our section look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 That's the thing though. Eaxh member has their own style so maybe we could work out 2 or 3 different Drafts for me to take a look at. Then it's a simple matter of thinking of a Theme for each Section. So say a Render of a Pikachu on a really nice Background with Text describing the Winner for Pop Culture? Just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 [quote name='Moe Fantastico J-Max' timestamp='1329227366' post='5816378'] That's the thing though. Eaxh member has their own style so maybe we could work out 2 or 3 different Drafts for me to take a look at. Then it's a simple matter of thinking of a Theme for each Section. So say a Render of a Pikachu on a really nice Background with Text describing the Winner for Pop Culture? Just a thought [/quote] How many awards do you expect there to be? Because if there are over 20, and each one has to be 'individual', well, a single designer is screwed. And even more so, a team of designers would be screwed because it would look like 20 different people have designed an award which look totally different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 There's around 40 of then :/ That's the reason I wanted to split it between Members. We all really need to come together and think this through fully. Throw any ideas that you have my way and i'll see what I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 The easiest way to get this done would be to come up with a template of sorts, with a spot for personal touches here and there. Or various spots. Color, font, a picture, etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Nice idea Pika. I am terrible at GFX so how about you guys do a Quick draft of how it should look. Text Position etc. Once we have the Basics down then hopefully it will be easier for us. Don't panic as we have at least one month ^^ Remember these are your Awards too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durandamon Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 You know I can leave it to you 'Nw if you and J-Max believe it's the best for a single pony to do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted February 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 [IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/dwdwdv.png[/IMG] I told you I suck at GFX XD. Here's roughly the layout I am looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durandamon Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Sorry I can't see the image? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 [quote name='Moe Fantastico J-Max' timestamp='1329227366' post='5816378'] That's the thing though. Eaxh member has their own style so maybe we could work out 2 or 3 different Drafts for me to take a look at. Then it's a simple matter of thinking of a Theme for each Section. So say a Render of a Pikachu on a really nice Background with Text describing the Winner for Pop Culture? Just a thought [/quote] I'm assuring you from this moment that the worst possible way to go about this would be too try and make each piece "unique". The reason why the awards show is always a flop is due to either too many artists are assigned to the project or there is always a desire for innovation. I personally could not make 40 individual pieces without either straying too far from the task, or simply going insane. If I were to do this with a group, it still wouldn't work due clear quality issues. I realize it may be easy to add a pikachu to a background for pop culture, but how could I be creative with awards such as most active, or best mod. Even if I could invision a concept, finding a relative stock would take up far too much of my time, and the set will simply end up no longer looking like a set due to all of the unneeded variation. [quote name='Hatcher' timestamp='1329235304' post='5816504'] The easiest way to get this done would be to come up with a template of sorts, with a spot for personal touches here and there. Or various spots. Color, font, a picture, etc etc. [/quote] A template was always the way to go about this, the worst way would be to change the font or anything that could impact the pieces as a set far too heavily and we'll end up with finished products that no longer look professional or even look like awards that belong in the same set for that matter. I've already designed a template that I believe will be perfect, it allows the pieces to keep their singularity along with some innovative touches, but at the same time it is clearly apparent that they are of the same set. [img]http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/Amirzmom/NwDesigns045-1.png[/img] Took me 3 days to complete, around 4 hours all together. As you can see it's fairly simple, but what makes it unique is the ribbon that looks around the actual center piece that makes it 3-D, I have yet to see something like this attempted in an awards design. Also the the avatar is something that set each piece apart from the other. (I used HQ's avatar instead because it worked better than yours J-Max.) If there is any need for any more elements to make each piece unique, I can also change the color of the trapezoid-like shape behind "J-Max" and possibly some other layers. How this will work is that it will be a basic template, you inform me of the persons name, the type of award, and the avatar he or she wishes to use. I will work alone seeing as though it is my template, and that will be all. Very simple, no hassle, and a great outcome. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairman ali Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Honestly? Nw's design is the best you guys can get lol I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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