Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 [quote name='Ｍｕｇｅｎｄｒａｍｏｎ' timestamp='1330889826' post='5856396'] I thought that was part of the same one effect, that activates on the hand? OwO [/quote] Nope. Gorz says to summon it, then activate the corresponding effect. So it re-activates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Got to love Gorz's new text. Much clearer now. Anyway, I have now submitted my Deck. I dont expect too much from it, but hey, could be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 [quote name='☠ℑѦŽ☠' timestamp='1330889740' post='5856394'] I already turned mine in, though. I decided not to go with your help. <3 Sorry for not responding to that. [/quote]Very well. Only person left is Lujan Solo. Who I also have no idea about. He kinda just showed up randomly. [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1330894738' post='5856627'] Got to love Gorz's new text. Much clearer now. [/quote]Wait, so you're telling me that Streak Bouncer can negate the second part of Gorz's effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Yes yes it can Apparently xD Tho...that also kills Gorz so now we haz anti-Gorz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Yes, Gorz's second effect starts a new chain while it's on the Field. It's mandatory, which is why it doesn't miss the timing, and it would still be used during Damage Step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Kay, so I was right, you can win even if gorz is in hand because of Streak Bouncer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1330896599' post='5856696'] Kay, so I was right, you can win even if gorz is in hand because of Streak Bouncer. [/quote] You realize Bouncer doesn't destroy, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Since everyone is talking about Gorz, I decided to look at the OCG. So does it SS itself, then activate itself prior to summoning? OR did it just stick to activate in hand and SS, then eff happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1330896716' post='5856704'] You realize Bouncer doesn't destroy, yes? [/quote]And I have 4 monsters that can inflict over 12000 damage together. -2700 won't do much to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1330896827' post='5856708'] And I have 4 monsters that can inflict over 12000 damage together. -2700 won't do much to that. [/quote]lol Especially cuz that effect also does -1000, right? [quote name='Βyakuya Kuchiki' timestamp='1330896752' post='5856705'] Since everyone is talking about Gorz, I decided to look at the OCG. So does it SS itself, then activate itself prior to summoning? OR did it just stick to activate in hand and SS, then eff happens? [/quote]it gets ss'd, then a chain activates, which is its effect I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 [quote name='Βyakuya Kuchiki' timestamp='1330896752' post='5856705'] Since everyone is talking about Gorz, I decided to look at the OCG. So does it SS itself, then activate itself prior to summoning? OR did it just stick to activate in hand and SS, then eff happens? [/quote] Gorz activates in the hand when you take Damage. When it resolves, it is Special Summoned. When the current chain has resolved (it'll usually be Link 1 anyway), it activates the second effect on a new chain and Summons/Burns, based on the type of Damage. The second effect is mandatory and never misses the timing. But that effect activates on the Field, so Skill Drain etc stops it. It is a new activation, not part of resolving the Trigger from hand, and that means Streak Bouncer can stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 It SS. Then second eff activates, which can be negated.ninja... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1330897325' post='5856727'] Gorz activates in the hand when you take Damage. When it resolves, it is Special Summoned. When the current chain has resolved (it'll usually be Link 1 anyway), it activates the second effect on a new chain and Summons/Burns, based on the type of Damage. The second effect is mandatory and never misses the timing. But that effect activates on the Field, so Skill Drain etc stops it. It is a new activation, not part of resolving the Trigger from hand, and that means Streak Bouncer can stop it. [/quote] Alright. I thought there was some confusion or some OCG change...but I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 It was indicated by the original text, but it's much clearer now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 I see. I already new at first it activates in the hand and such, but I just happened to come in and everyone talked about Gorz... Did they make any other text changes to other cards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 *almost giddy with happiness* So how are all you mere peons doing tonight? [spoiler=You may worship me now] [img]http://i.imgur.com/DPccA.jpg[/img] [/spoiler] Duel was completely and 100% legit. I was facing a Rabbit Deck and miraculously hadn't lost yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 I have my last rule change and it requires input: Should the winner be forced to take the Original Number of the person he defeated or should one be given the choice to take any one of the numbers the losing player possesses? Also, I have only 1 person left to turn in a Deck. Lujan Solo, if your deck is not in by midnight, you'll be disqualified and the tournament will begin without you. In any case I have 2 brackets generated. One with Solo and one without. I'll release it at midnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1330921623' post='5857764'] I have my last rule change and it requires input: Should the winner be forced to take the Original Number of the person he defeated or should one be given the choice to take any one of the numbers the losing player possesses? [/quote] Choose You don't want someone running Rabbit to be stuck with Dark Mist X_X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1330921760' post='5857769'] Choose You don't want someone running Rabbit to be stuck with Dark Mist X_X [/quote] I think Rabbit is banned (or maybe just a certain Rabbit deck type) But I see your point Buuut I honestly think not choose is more fun and exciting :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Not choose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Why in the hell would you want to NOT choose? That's not more fun, that makes it a lot more luck based in a bad way, considering the fact that there is a good chance you get something you can't even use, and it's stupid to have not used an extra slot on the off chance you get something worthless =T Yes, in earlier rounds, this is unavoidable, but if we can make it less luck based as we go on, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 I don't care either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 >Gets Number 96 because I can't choose >Doesn't have a single level 2 in my deck SOO EXCITING!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1330925506' post='5857869'] >Gets Number 96 because I can't choose >Doesn't have a single level 2 in my deck SOO EXCITING!!! [/quote] I love how we both mentioned 96 when 7 would probably be a better one to say xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1330925773' post='5857875'] I love how we both mentioned 96 when 7 would probably be a better one to say xD [/quote] Ya probably. First that came to mind though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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