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[Agro]

[quote name='Chris' timestamp='1335486485' post='5926237']
When's it good then?

Against Wind-Ups where side space can go better to Veilers, D.D. Crows and cards that aren't hand traps?
[/quote]ITT: Not only can you not run both, but just because it's not the best, it's automatically bad.

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[quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1335486829' post='5926245']
ITT: Not only can you not run both, but just because it's not the best, it's automatically bad.
[/quote]

>Costs more
>Is worse than other cards that are cheaper

Seems like a dumb thing to run to me.

And in yugioh, being outclassed does = bad.

[Agro]

[quote name='Chris' timestamp='1335486956' post='5926249']
>Costs more
>Is worse than other cards that are cheaper

Seems like a dumb thing to run to me.

And in yugioh, being outclassed does = bad.
[/quote]How was it outclassed by any of those cards before priority, which if you'll recall, is EXACTLY what we were talking about.

Sure, it's not good now that priority is gone, but before that, it was.

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[quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1335487075' post='5926252']
How was it outclassed by any of those cards before priority, which if you'll recall, is EXACTLY what we were talking about.
Sure, it's not good now that priority is gone, but before that, it was.
[/quote]

Because it's in the exact same situation. Veiler and D.D. Crow didn't give 2 shits about priority.

[Agro]

[quote name='Chris' timestamp='1335487193' post='5926253']
Because it's in the exact same situation. Veiler and D.D. Crow didn't give 2 shits about priority.
[/quote]Because Rabbit cared about them before priority?

[Kazooie]

[quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1335487233' post='5926255']
Because Rabbit cared about them before priority?
[/quote]

It didn't give much of a f*** about Maxx "C" either honestly.

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[quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1335487233' post='5926255']
Because Rabbit cared about them before priority?
[/quote]

And you're running Maxx C against Rabbit because?

Players thought it was good, then they realised how bad it really is against anything but Wind-Ups where it's still not amazing.

It's simple perspective, but players realised their original perspective was flawed. Maxx C became a terrible dead draw and was only good against Rabbit if you had it at the exact right time, and drew 2 perfect cards for the situation.

Since that moment, good players have realised how bad a card Maxx C has become, and the not-so-good players still think it's a must-have because "everything is about advantage."

[The ReBeL]

"everything is about advantage"
I am loving this arguement it's awesome sauce.

OT: I don't think Maxx C is bad i just agree with Chris that it is outclassed. And even with priority it will stay up because with the everything about advantage...heratics will special and keep maxx c in a good price range for Konami.

I wonder if Hieratics will be like Dragunity.
Hyped and was good. then immediately discarded as a deck.

[Blake]

[quote name='WhirlwindKnight' timestamp='1335503113' post='5926483']
"everything is about advantage"
I am loving this arguement it's awesome sauce.

OT: I don't think Maxx C is bad i just agree with Chris that it is outclassed. And even with priority it will stay up because with the everything about advantage...heratics will special and keep maxx c in a good price range for Konami.

I wonder if Hieratics will be like Dragunity.
Hyped and was good. then immediately discarded as a deck.
[/quote]
This just proves you don't have a clue what good Hieratics are like.

Hieratics are absolute s*** in the TCG because they don't have Gustaph Max and Xyz Wrath is a walking NO to them, and I heard it might be a good side in Rabbit.

Gustaph Max is the big one though. They don't have a clencher, a visible win condition without it.

[Just Crouton]

[IMG]http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac187/Deraj_2010/BlockMashKMGuardianvsCatastor.jpg[/IMG]

I am that manly. March towards RagnaROCK!

[Agro]

[quote name='God Crouton!!!' timestamp='1335503661' post='5926491']
[img]http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac187/Deraj_2010/BlockMashKMGuardianvsCatastor.jpg[/img]

I am that manly. March towards RagnaROCK!
[/quote]It was old after the second time.


[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1335503570' post='5926489']
This just proves you don't have a clue what good Hieratics are like.

Hieratics are absolute s*** in the TCG because they don't have Gustaph Max and Xyz Wrath is a walking NO to them, and I heard it might be a good side in Rabbit.

Gustaph Max is the big one though. They don't have a clencher, a visible win condition without it.
[/quote]Win conditions aren't always visible. Sure they can't loop, doesn't mean we discredit them entirely. Though the Xyz Wrath will certainly be an issue.

Also, I was discussing with Jesse and apparently Rabbit's response to priority will be maining Macro Cosmos. He kinda argued with my following point, but I still noted that Dino Rabbit's issue may be that they are no longer focusing on protecting the Zaurs and are now focusing on protecting Rabbit, meaning less resources once the Zaurs are on the field.

So I thought I'd bring that and see what kind of discussion it brings.

[evilfusion]

Why would Rabbit Decks use Macro Cosmos? It stops Veiler just fine using D-Fissure, but Macro still banishes Xyz Materials, so it seems counterproductive.

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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1335541159' post='5926730']
Why would Rabbit Decks use Macro Cosmos? It stops Veiler just fine using D-Fissure, but Macro still banishes Xyz Materials, so it seems counterproductive.
[/quote]

Because it also stops Inzektors.

Your materials are useless once they've been used anyway.

[Agro]

Plus it stops Wind-Ups, Dark Worlds, and Twilight Dragons.

[Senji the Emo Loner]

I banishes in my Chaos Dragons a lot, I add cards that revolves around banished monsters.
Like Escape, Burial, Return, and DDR.
Eclipse Wyvern is another one, but I only have one. ;~;

Today I traded my old DH Plasma for a banned card, Trish. =D
From my high-level loving friend (the same one who sold his TGU for a dollar to me)

[Agro]

[quote name='Senji the Pervy Sage' timestamp='1335556049' post='5926853']
I banishes in my Chaos Dragons a lot, I add cards that revolves around banished monsters.
Like Escape, Burial, Return, and DDR.
Eclipse Wyvern is another one, but I only have one. ;~;
[/quote]Burial is the only one of those that you should even consider running.

[Senji the Emo Loner]

[quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1335556575' post='5926861']
Burial is the only one of those that you should even consider running.
[/quote]

In my deck, those cards are equal in value for usefulness. =o

[Agro]

[quote name='Senji the Pervy Sage' timestamp='1335558298' post='5926889']
In my deck, those cards are equal in value for usefulness. =o
[/quote]Show me your deck. I bet I find better cards for you to use.

[Senji the Emo Loner]

[quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1335558351' post='5926893']
Show me your deck. I bet I find better cards for you to use.
[/quote]

But this is my IRL deck.
But I bet you still want to see it.

[Nicο]

You know, Agrro is [s]probably[/s] right, but it kind of depends on what cards you have/if you can buy the better ones/etc, since it [s]seems like[/s] is your irl deck.

[Agro]

[quote name='Senji the Pervy Sage' timestamp='1335558562' post='5926903']
But this is my IRL deck.
But I bet you still want to see it.
[/quote]Show it to me. And stop arguing that you should run certain cards if your end argument is going to be: but it's IRL.

[quote name='Senji the Pervy Sage' timestamp='1335558562' post='5926903']
But this is my IRL deck.
But I bet you still want to see it.
[/quote]Show it to me. And stop arguing that you should run certain cards if your end argument is going to be: but it's IRL.

[Senji the Emo Loner]

[quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1335558673' post='5926905']
Show it to me. And stop arguing that you should run certain cards if your end argument is going to be: but it's IRL.

Show it to me. And stop arguing that you should run certain cards if your end argument is going to be: but it's IRL.
[/quote]

Well those "certain" cards are a must-have in my deck.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7812/chaosdragons.png

[Agro]

[quote name='Senji the Pervy Sage' timestamp='1335558934' post='5926908']
Well those "certain" cards are a must-have in my deck.

[url="http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7812/chaosdragons.png"]http://img259.images...haosdragons.png[/url]
[/quote]Only run 8 spells, no traps, 3 Lyla, 3 Ryko, 3 Solar Recharge, 1 Charge of the Light Brigade, 3 Eclipse Wyvern, 3 Chaos Sorcerer, 3 Lightpulsar, 3 Darkflare, 1-2 Card Trooper and fill the rest in with Chaos monsters. If you have BLS good for you, if you don't, oh well.

[Senji the Emo Loner]

[quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1335562978' post='5926995']
Only run 8 spells, no traps, 3 Lyla, 3 Ryko, 3 Solar Recharge, 1 Charge of the Light Brigade, 3 Eclipse Wyvern, 3 Chaos Sorcerer, 3 Lightpulsar, 3 Darkflare, 1-2 Card Trooper and fill the rest in with Chaos monsters. If you have BLS good for you, if you don't, oh well.
[/quote]

I hate Ligthsworns, so that's out of the question.
I can't get more of the cards because nobody cares about them.

But is my deck closer to Chaos Dragons or Twilight Dragons?
And what is the difference between the two?

[Agro]

[quote name='Senji the Pervy Sage' timestamp='1335563255' post='5927003']

I hate Ligthsworns, so that's out of the question.
I can't get more of the cards because nobody cares about them.
[/quote]Put your pride aside and run the damn lightsworns. Their only point is to get the Dragons in the Graveyard and get rid of your Opponent's problematic cards and backrow.

It's not light your running Judgment Dragon, it's just an engine.

And every one of those cards is available in the Dragons Collide SD save Solar Recharge, which people should DEFINITELY have, and Card Trooper, which comes as a common in Legendary Collection and Ra Yellow Mega Pack and certainly people should have.