~NOiSE~ Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Dicuss post-hardcore in the likes of Thrice, Thursday, Alexisonfire, etc. Or discuss Hardcore music in the likes of Coalesce, Converge, Botch, etc. I just picked these up today at my local record shop~ [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDi2Q5s9ri8[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SVZB2sWye0[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Converge is actually technically metalcore. They created the genre to a certain extent. Also, Glassjaw. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jgrave Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [center][color=#008000][b]Fugazi, Minor Threat, Refused, Quicksand and Jawbox for really old school post hardcore.[/b][/color][/center] [center][color=#008000][b]At The Drive-In, Blood Brothers, Brand New, Engine Down, Hopesfall, Glassjaw, Thrice and Thursday for modern legends.[/b][/color][/center] [center][color=#008000][b]Don't know much bout Hardcore punk except for Black Flag. And I though both Botch and Converge are metalcore or at least a very influential in that genre.[/b][/color][/center] [center][color=#008000][b][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa1FImQakRw[/media][/b][/color][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Well yes, but they take heavy influence from hardcore punk, so I think labeling them as hardcore is appropriate. Here's one of the early post-hardcore groups I got into. Still love this album~ [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYrJ-34jLMo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYrJ-34jLMo[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Influence doesn't make something. If you were a grindcore band that somehow has heavy Michael Jackson influence, it doesn't make you a pop band. You're still grindcore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I get what you're saying, but either term could be equally appropriate. Botch, Converge and Coalesce are generally the three big names that pop up in hardcore music discussions. While Converge my have paved the way for the metalcore bands that follow, they're still a hardcore band at the center. What's a post-hardcore thread without [i]Thrice[/i]? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbyGsL_VGoU[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Other than Glassjaw, Thrice is my favorite post-hardcore band. They have some pretty low-key songs for post-hardcore, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I think [i]Vheissu[/i] is probably my favorite Thrice album. Anyone heard of La Dispute? My girlfriend showed me this band...the guy's voice was kind of annoying at first, but it grew on me after awhile. I still think mewithoutYou is better though~ [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGJ2TUy3D9M[/media] Description fix'd, just realized I had Botch listed as post-hardcore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 La Dispute. I hate them. So f***ing boring. They are a disgrace to the post-hardcore community. Them and one other band whose name escapes me. I hate them both so much. Absolutely horrible. They are to post-hardcore what Illud Divinum Insanus is to Morbid Angel, if anyone gets the reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Dang, you're the first person I've heard speak negatively about them. I've heard nothing but things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I just can't stand them. It's probably because the roots of my musical taste is in Emo and Screamo. La Dispute and Touche Amore (the other band I was talking about) are basically hated by the majority of diehard Emo/Screamo fans. At least from what I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｍｒ．Ｒｏｂｏｔ Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='Y2Jgrave VS the WORLD' timestamp='1327726033' post='5784877'] [center][color=#008000][b]Fugazi, Minor Threat, Refused, Quicksand and Jawbox for really old school post hardcore.[/b][/color][/center] [center][color=#008000][b]At The Drive-In, Blood Brothers, Brand New, Engine Down, Hopesfall, Glassjaw, Thrice and Thursday for modern legends.[/b][/color][/center] [/quote] This basically it. Also, I fell the same way about La Dispute. Prefer post hardcore bands sound like their post hardcore band rather than sounding like a Skramz ripoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='Phantom Stranger' timestamp='1327741261' post='5785152'] This basically it. Also, I fell the same way about La Dispute. Prefer post hardcore bands sound like their post hardcore band rather than sounding like a Skramz ripoff. [/quote] Exactly. They sound like they want to be skramz, but have no clue in the world how to do it properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Anyone that hasn't listened to [i]letlive.[/i] needs to check them out immediately. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px6cfxVbJn8&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px6cfxVbJn8&feature=related[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP2JYLCGi_s&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP2JYLCGi_s&feature=related[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel. Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I really like ADTR, but when I saw them on the 17th I realized how much Jeremy sucks ass live. I like blessthefall, although the vocals on the new album are friggin attrocious. Been listening to ssome Hot Cross and Thursday recently and I like em a lot. Four Year Strong. Heehee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Blessthefall, Alexisonfire, Architects, City Escape, Close to Home, Ice Nine Kills, Deciding Tonight, Sleeping With Sirens, A Skylit Drive, Thrice... I could go on for so much longer. Yeah, I'm obviously more of a fan of the new Post-Hardcore bands, and it's actually more than half of my music collection. Absolutely love the genre. And... honestly never really listened to actual Hardcore, I should at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｍｒ．Ｒｏｂｏｔ Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 [quote name='Pinhead Larry' timestamp='1327797054' post='5786340'] I really like ADTR, but when I saw them on the 17th I realized how much Jeremy sucks ass live. I like blessthefall, although the vocals on the new album are friggin attrocious. Been listening to ssome Hot Cross and Thursday recently and I like em a lot. Four Year Strong. Heehee. [/quote] I still failed to see why Hot Cross always get labeled as post hardcore. If anything, they're probably sound like a skramz version of Dance Gavin Dance with Saetia's vocal....probably because they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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