evilhorus Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 [quote name='Vic Rattlehead' timestamp='1327689982' post='5783846'] Suicide is the intentional killing of oneself. Murder is intentionally killing. Therefore, suicide IS murdering oneself. Although with the second example, that wouldn't be classed as rape, per se. [/quote]Oh I wasn't aware murder victims agree to their killing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raine Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 [quote name='Horus.' timestamp='1327702065' post='5784102'] Oh I wasn't aware murder victims agree to their killing [/quote] Only the REALLY REALLY good ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 ... Talking people out of it is hard, and hard on yourself as well... But it's even harder to just give up on them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 people who don't have pity for those who commit suicide have never been truly suicidal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanPark24 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='Nightmare Zarkus' timestamp='1327736507' post='5785092'] people who don't have pity for those who commit suicide have never been truly suicidal [/quote] I pity those who've committed suicide, and I've never been suicidal before. Who wouldn't pity them? I pity them because they made a horrible decision and affected so many people negatively.[quote name='Horus.' timestamp='1327702065' post='5784102'] Oh I wasn't aware murder victims agree to their killing [/quote] It was intentional on the murderer's part. It was intentional regardless of which party intended the killing to take place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I refuse to ever be depressed because when something bad happens to me I always think of the people who have it worse than me and I feel better. I love the world around me too much to leave it. My arguments against suicide are rude and intolerant and possibly offensive so I won't say them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='Her Scarlet Knight' timestamp='1327438726' post='5779027'] I'll admit that I've considered it a few times these past months, but I love myself far too much to do it. ...I've come close, though. [/quote]I would probably die if you did that. Not kill myself. Just die. Also I want to hear about this, talk to me when you get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='Anti-Theist' timestamp='1327774669' post='5785663'] I refuse to ever be depressed [/quote] [img]http://g.static.memegenerator.net/cache/images/300x/1/1140/1167579.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1327732072' post='5785053'] ... Talking people out of it is hard, and hard on yourself as well... But it's even harder to just give up on them... [/quote] Experiences... But the reaction after snapping them out is priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tin Trooper Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 [quote name='Horus.' timestamp='1327702065' post='5784102'] Oh I wasn't aware murder victims agree to their killing [/quote] I never actually said that. Manslaughter is the unintentional killing of someone. Murder is where the perpetrator deliberately kills the victim. The situation doesn't depend on the hypothetical consent of the victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 [quote name='Vic Rattlehead' timestamp='1327945469' post='5789636'] I never actually said that. Manslaughter is the unintentional killing of someone. Murder is where the perpetrator deliberately kills the victim. The situation doesn't depend on the hypothetical consent of the victim. [/quote] [b] mur·der[/b] [mur-der] [url="http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html"][img]http://sp.dictionary.com/dictstatic/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif[/img][/url] [url=""]Show IPA[/url] [color=#333333]noun[/color] [color=#333333]1.[/color] [color=#333333]Law[/color] . [color=#333333]the[/color] killing of another human being under conditions [color=#333333]specifically[/color] [color=#333333]covered[/color] [color=#333333]in[/color] [color=#333333]law.[/color] In the U.S., special statutory [url="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/definitions"]definitions[/url] [color=#333333]include[/color] [color=#333333]murder[/color] [color=#333333]committed[/color] with malice [color=#333333]aforethought,[/color] [color=#333333]characterized[/color] by deliberation or premeditation or occurring [color=#333333]during[/color] the [color=#333333]commission[/color] of another serious crime, as robbery or [color=#333333]arson[/color] [color=#333333](first-degree[/color] murder), and murder by intent [color=#333333]but[/color] [color=#333333]without[/color] [color=#333333]deliberation[/color] or premeditation (second-degree [color=#333333]murder).[/color] 2. Slang . [color=#333333]something[/color] [color=#333333]extremely[/color] [color=#333333]difficult[/color] or perilous:[i]That final exam was murder! [/i] 3. a group or flock of crows. From the dictionary, so shut up. And the part about the US clearly means per country, not just the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 [quote name='iRemo' timestamp='1327784784' post='5785974'] [img]http://g.static.memegenerator.net/cache/images/300x/1/1140/1167579.jpg[/img] [/quote] Well I do have the occasional emo/attention want moment. I will give you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 [quote name='::Kyng::' timestamp='1327414388' post='5778603']"The coward's way out." [/quote] Umm...I disagree. You put a gun to your head and see if YOU have the guts to pull the trigger. .-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tin Trooper Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1327949688' post='5789704'] [b] mur·der[/b] [mur-der] [url="http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html"][img]http://sp.dictionary.com/dictstatic/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif[/img][/url] definitions [color=#333333]include[/color] [color=#333333]murder[/color] [color=#333333]committed[/color] with malice [color=#333333]aforethought,[/color] [color=#333333]characterized[/color] by deliberation or premeditation or occurring [color=#333333]during[/color] the [color=#333333]commission[/color] of another serious crime, as robbery or [color=#333333]arson[/color] [color=#333333](first-degree[/color] murder), and murder by intent [color=#333333]but[/color] [color=#333333]without[/color] [color=#333333]deliberation[/color] or premeditation (second-degree [color=#333333]murder).[/color] 2. Slang . [color=#333333]something[/color] [color=#333333]extremely[/color] [color=#333333]difficult[/color] or perilous:[i]That final exam was murder! [/i] 3. a group or flock of crows. From the dictionary, so shut up. And the part about the US clearly means per country, not just the US. [/quote] [b][color=#333333]Law[/color] . [color=#333333]the[/color] [color=#333333]killing[/color] [color=#333333]of[/color] [color=#333333]another[/color] [color=#333333]human[/color] being under [color=#333333]conditions[/color] [color=#333333]specifically[/color] [color=#333333]covered[/color] [color=#333333]in[/color] [color=#333333]law.[/color] [color=#333333]In[/color] [color=#333333]the[/color] [color=#333333]U.S.,[/color] [color=#333333]special[/color] statutory [url="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/definitions"]definitions[/url] [color=#333333]include[/color] murder committed with malice [color=#333333]aforethought,[/color] [color=#333333]characterized[/color] by deliberation or [color=#333333]premeditation[/color] or [color=#333333]occurring[/color] [color=#333333]during[/color] [color=#333333]the[/color] commission of another serious [color=#333333]crime,[/color] as [color=#333333]robbery[/color] [color=#333333]or[/color] [color=#333333]arson[/color] [color=#333333](first-degree[/color] murder), and murder by [color=#333333]intent[/color] but [color=#333333]without[/color] [color=#333333]deliberation[/color] or premeditation [color=#333333](second-degree[/color] [color=#333333]murder).[/color] [/b] >Making it seem like you're right by not including certain parts >mfw I have no face Also: [b] murder (mur¦der)[/b] [b]Pronunciation:[/b] /ˈməːdə/ [b] noun[/b][list] [*]1 The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another: [i] the brutal murder of a German holidaymaker[/i] [i] [mass noun]:[/i][i] he was put on trial for attempted murder[/i] [/list] From the Oxford Dictionary website. Not like that matters, except for you know, the fact that it's the definition you'd find in a smegging dictionary. And while in most societies, suicide isn't considered murder, the UK common law is that it is a moral wrong, as is suicide; and there is murder-suicide and euthanasia, and the fact that it's down to [b]personal opinion[/b]. For example, someone who does drugs; or gets drunk, drives and is killed is effectively, in my eyes, committing suicide. Just Saiyan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 The definition you just posted said it is person A killing person B, just like mine. Are you stupid or something? ._. I didn't cut anything out and got it straight from dictionary.com. You know, a "smegging" online dictionary? On, and the US also has suicide illegal, so your precious UK isn't as special as you seem to think it is. Suicide is almost universally considered wrong, but you don't seem to be able to pull your head out of your ass. Suicide is the conscious taking of one's own life, just as murder is the conscious taking of another. What you are describing is a low degree of manslaughter that just happened to bite then in the ass a well. Your opinion doesn't matter. This is fact, it isn't subjective. When you argue opinion, it's a sign you know that you're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1328033106' post='5791855'] The definition you just posted said it is person A killing person B, just like mine. Are you stupid or something? ._. I didn't cut anything out and got it straight from dictionary.com. You know, a "smegging" online dictionary? On, and the US also has suicide illegal, so your precious UK isn't as special as you seem to think it is. Suicide is almost universally considered wrong, but you don't seem to be able to pull your head out of your ass. Suicide is the conscious taking of one's own life, just as murder is the conscious taking of another. What you are describing is a low degree of manslaughter that just happened to bite then in the ass a well. Your opinion doesn't matter. This is fact, it isn't subjective. When you argue opinion, it's a sign you know that you're wrong. [/quote] Interestingly, Belgium, The Netherlands and Luxembourg all allow assisted suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 [quote name='The Tin Trooper' timestamp='1328028571' post='5791744'] [b][color=#333333]Law[/color] . [color=#333333]the[/color] [color=#333333]killing[/color] [color=#333333]of[/color] [color=#333333]another[/color] [color=#333333]human[/color] being under [color=#333333]conditions[/color] [color=#333333]specifically[/color] [color=#333333]covered[/color] [color=#333333]in[/color] [color=#333333]law.[/color] [color=#333333]In[/color] [color=#333333]the[/color] [color=#333333]U.S.,[/color] [color=#333333]special[/color] statutory [url="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/definitions"]definitions[/url] [color=#333333]include[/color] murder committed [size=7]with malice [/size][color=#333333][size=7]aforethought[/size],[/color] [color=#333333]characterized[/color] by deliberation or [color=#333333]premeditation[/color] or [color=#333333]occurring[/color] [color=#333333]during[/color] [color=#333333]the[/color] commission of another serious [color=#333333]crime,[/color] as [color=#333333]robbery[/color] [color=#333333]or[/color] [color=#333333]arson[/color] [color=#333333](first-degree[/color] murder), and murder by [color=#333333]intent[/color] but [color=#333333]without[/color] [color=#333333]deliberation[/color] or premeditation [color=#333333](second-degree[/color] [color=#333333]murder).[/color] [/b]\ [/quote] Now what, praytell, dose malice mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tin Trooper Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1328033106' post='5791855'] The definition you just posted said it is person A killing person B, just like mine. Are you stupid or something? ._. I didn't cut anything out and got it straight from dictionary.com. You know, a "smegging" online dictionary? On, and the US also has suicide illegal, so your precious UK isn't as special as you seem to think it is. Suicide is almost universally considered wrong, but you don't seem to be able to pull your head out of your ass. Suicide is the conscious taking of one's own life, just as murder is the conscious taking of another. What you are describing is a low degree of manslaughter that just happened to bite then in the ass a well. Your opinion doesn't matter. This is fact, it isn't subjective. When you argue opinion, it's a sign you know that you're wrong. [/quote] >Your opinion doesn't matter >Gives his opinion that my opinion is wrong >Denies the freedom of individual thought and opinion because buttmad >Resorts to petty insults [img]http://img.anongallery.org/img/8/5/you-seem-upset.jpg[/img] [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1328033588' post='5791863'] Interestingly, Belgium, The Netherlands and Luxembourg all allow assisted suicide. [/quote] As well as Switzerland. Ah mainland Europe, you so silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 [quote name='The Tin Trooper' timestamp='1328038188' post='5791998'] >Your opinion doesn't matter >Gives his opinion that my opinion is wrong >Denies the freedom of individual thought and opinion because buttmad >Resorts to petty insults As well as Switzerland. Ah mainland Europe, you so silly. [/quote] I'm not mad, I just think you're a moron. You've given no facts and you're arguing based on opinion of something objective, not subjective. Honestly, look at any argument. The word "opinion" doesn't show up until someone is on the losing end of the argument. Your opinion doesn't matter because you're talking about fact and saying the fact isn't true because you deny it being true. You don't have any individual thought, tbh, just the generic "truth is subjective" view that most people have modern day. It's not my opinion that you're wrong- it's fact, and the definition from Oxford agrees with me. Your own argument. Funny. And that's 4 countries on an international scene ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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