Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Blackwing - Notus the Cloudburst ***** Winged-Beast/Synchro/Effect DARK 2400 ATK/1000 DEF Effect: 1 "Blackwing" Tuner + 1 or more Non-Tuner monsters. Once per turn during your Main Phase: You can send 1 "Blackwing" monster from your hand to the Graveyard; Destroy one monster on the field with an original ATK less than this card; You cannot conduct your Battle Phase the turn you use this effect. Link to comment
Agro Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Needs more ATK! No seriously, if the main point of this card becomes: summon it without an effect. It NEEDS more ATK. And maybe another effect. Also, materials please? Link to comment
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Wraith' timestamp='1326344493' post='5760747'] Needs more ATK! No seriously, if the main point of this card becomes: summon it without an effect. It NEEDS more ATK. And maybe another effect. Also, materials please? [/quote] Updated. Boosted it by 200 ATK. Should I get rid of the last line? Link to comment
Agro Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='~~Xiahou Dun~~' timestamp='1326344785' post='5760754'] Updated. Boosted it by 200 ATK. Should I get rid of the last line? [/quote]You cannot. I also just realized it's gonna be abused with Gale and any Level 2 monster, so maybe a non-Tuner might work better? It'd force people to use dat one guy who comes from the Graveyard. Link to comment
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Wraith' timestamp='1326345088' post='5760762'] I also just realized it's gonna be abused with Gale and any Level 2 monster, so maybe a non-Tuner might work better? It'd force people to use dat one guy who comes from the Graveyard. [/quote] But I made this card solely for the purpose to make Vayu infinitely better. Link to comment
Agro Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='~~Xiahou Dun~~' timestamp='1326345215' post='5760764'] But I made this card solely for the purpose to make Vayu infinitely better. [/quote]Yes you did, and with that restriction to the cost, it makes it much more focused on BWs. I have no more complaints. Link to comment
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Wow, I'm a moron.... Link to comment
Agro Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='~~Xiahou Dun~~' timestamp='1326345422' post='5760769'] Wow, I'm a moron.... [/quote]Why do you say that? Link to comment
TCG warrior Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Wraith' timestamp='1326344493' post='5760747'] Needs more ATK! No seriously, if the main point of this card becomes: summon it without an effect. It NEEDS more ATK. And maybe another effect. Also, materials please? [/quote] If you look at the patern in the existing blackwing synchros, it should have 500 DEF and 2200 ATK, so nothing "it needs more ATK", better give it a stronger effect, with abusable costs (the effect can still be activated), like returning a monster to the grave or banishing 1. Or make it like the level 5 synchro that should have been blackwing; vortex the whirlwind, with an effect that activates outside the field (please note that when SS'd by vayu, it cannot be SS'd again from the grave or banished zone) I think something like; When this card is send from the field to the Graveyard: You can return 1 banished monster to the Graveyard Would be a nice effect Link to comment
Agro Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='TCG warrior' timestamp='1326381000' post='5760967'] If you look at the patern in the existing blackwing synchros, it should have 500 DEF and 2200 ATK, so nothing "it needs more ATK", better give it a stronger effect, with abusable costs (the effect can still be activated), like returning a monster to the grave or banishing 1. Or make it like the level 5 synchro that should have been blackwing; vortex the whirlwind, with an effect that activates outside the field (please note that when SS'd by vayu, it cannot be SS'd again from the grave or banished zone) I think something like; When this card is send from the field to the Graveyard: You can return 1 banished monster to the Graveyard Would be a nice effect [/quote]There's no "pattern" with the Blackwing Synchros. And even so, this card is almost impossible to bring out and no real BWing deck would do it with its effect because it'd be using Vayu. The ATK raise is necessary. Link to comment
TCG warrior Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 [quote name='Wraith' timestamp='1326392990' post='5761137'] There's no "pattern" with the Blackwing Synchros. And even so, this card is almost impossible to bring out and no real BWing deck would do it with its effect because it'd be using Vayu. The ATK raise is necessary. [/quote] So that its ATK becomes higher than the level 6 synchro which is harder to summon? Better just keep it at 2200 ATK with 500 DEF, and give it an effect which cannot be negated by vayu (like; when this card is removed from the field or when this card is destroyed by battle or when this card is sent to the graveyard etc.) Link to comment
Agro Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 [quote name='TCG warrior' timestamp='1326440249' post='5762365'] So that its ATK becomes higher than the level 6 synchro which is harder to summon? Better just keep it at 2200 ATK with 500 DEF, and give it an effect which cannot be negated by vayu (like; when this card is removed from the field or when this card is destroyed by battle or when this card is sent to the graveyard etc.) [/quote]That would be true if this card's effect were better or if this actually WERE harder to summon. Especially for BWs, Armed Wing is SO much easier to summon than this card. To give it around the same amount of attack is fine. Link to comment
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Should be 1 Tuner and 1 Non-Tuner Blackwing for trolz. Glow-Up + Shura ftw XP But no it's fine as it is. Shura + Vayu gets it out normally if you need it. And change the no battle phase to this card can't attack. That was too much of a restriction. Link to comment
TCG warrior Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='Wraith' timestamp='1326470251' post='5762509'] That would be true if this card's effect were better or if this actually WERE harder to summon. Especially for BWs, Armed Wing is SO much easier to summon than this card. To give it around the same amount of attack is fine. [/quote] Meant harder to summon with vayu... Link to comment
Agro Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='TCG warrior' timestamp='1326537017' post='5763736'] Meant harder to summon with vayu... [/quote]The point of this card is to summon with Vayu, and Armed Wing is easily summoned WITH its effect by using Blizzard. Link to comment
TCG warrior Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 [quote name='Wraith' timestamp='1326552279' post='5763855'] The point of this card is to summon with Vayu, and Armed Wing is easily summoned WITH its effect by using Blizzard. [/quote] srry, my fault; easier to summon with vayu I meant... But back to the topic I think a monster of a lower level (especially in the same archtype) should NEVER have a higher ATK (except if the DEF would be MUCH lower) Link to comment
Agro Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 This is still on topic. Because this card is tough to bring out normally, it should have a higher ATK, especially considering that it's main use is going to be without an effect. No Effect = More ATK, it's a common occurrence. And as for two monsters of the same archetype with one with a lower level having more attack than one of a higher level, obviousness is obvious: [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110510180942/yugioh/images/thumb/6/6c/JunkBerserkerEXVC-EN-UR-1E.jpg/300px-JunkBerserkerEXVC-EN-UR-1E.jpg[/img][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100608111646/yugioh/images/thumb/0/00/JunkDestroyer5DS3-EN-UR-1E.png/300px-JunkDestroyer5DS3-EN-UR-1E.png[/img] Believe it or not Junk Destroyer's effect is better, therefore it has a lowered ATK. And, what a coincidence! The difference is 100. As for any other Synchros... Goyo Guardian has 2800 ATK ._. Levels really don't matter towards ATK if the difference is that much. There's a Level 8 monster coming out with 0 ATK and 0 DEF. Link to comment
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