The Amazing Avian Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 So my parents just killed an owl because they thought it was a lechuza. I confirmed it was just a common great horned owl that was probably in some way injured since it didn't fly when my dog started barking at it. and just because I know it's gonna happen... [img]http://files.myopera.com/drlaunch/albums/37656/ya-rly001.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CMRenji Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Your parents killed a majestic owl instead of helping it? Tree hugger RAAAAGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Oh f*** the owl is alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 The magic owl has come back to life and will now curse you and your family for many generations to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Tim Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Why would you do that... Anyways, i'd take the owl to a shelter if it's still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 KILL OWL SELL MEAT MAKES COIN BUY ARMOR ??? PROFIT #not skyrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [spoiler=Relevant]Human sacrifices were still occurring in Buddhist Burma in the 1850s. When the capital was moved to Mandalay, 56 “spotless” men were buried beneath the new city walls to sanctify and protect the city. When two of the burial spots were later found empty, royal astrologers decreed that 500 men, women, boys, and girls must be killed and buried at once, or the capital must be abandoned. About 100 were actually buried before British governors stopped the ceremonies. Members of lndia’s Thuggee sect strangled people as sacrifices to appease the bloodthirsty goddess Kali, a practice beginning in the 1500s. The number of victims has been estimated to be as high as 2 million. Thugs were claiming about 20,000 lives a year in the 1800s until British rulers stamped them out. At a trial in 1840, one Thug was accused of killing 931 people. Today, some Hindu priests still sacrifice goats to Kali. The Mountain Meadows massacre was a mass killing of the Fancher-Baker wagon train at Mountain Meadows in Utah Territory on September 11, 1857, by a group of Mormons and Paiute Indians. The Arkansas emigrants were traveling to California shortly before Utah War started. Mormons throughout the Utah Territory had been mustered to fight the invading United States Army, which they believed was intended to destroy them as a people. Initially intending to orchestrate an Indian massacre, two men with leadership roles in local military, church and government organizations, Isaac C. Haight and John D. Lee, conspired for Lee to lead militiamen disguised as Native Americans along with a contingent of Paiute tribesmen in an attack. The emigrants fought back and a siege ensued. Intending to leave no witnesses of Mormon complicity in the siege and avoid reprisals complicating the Utah War, militiamen induced the emigrants to surrender and give up their weapons. After escorting the emigrants out of their fortification, the militiamen and their tribesmen auxiliaries executed approximately 120 men, women and children. The Medieval Inquisition is a series of Inquisitions (Roman Catholic Church bodies charged with suppressing heresy) from around 1184, including the Episcopal Inquisition (1184-1230s) and later the Papal Inquisition (1230s). It was in response to large popular movements throughout Europe considered apostate or heretical to Christianity, in particular Catharism and Waldensians in southern France and northern Italy. These were the first inquisition movements of many that would follow. Torture was used after 1252. On May 15, Pope Innocent IV issued a papal bull entitled Ad exstirpanda, which authorized the use of torture by inquisitors. The Inquisitors were forbidden to use methods that resulted in bloodshed, mutilation or death. One of the more common forms of medieval inquisition torture was known as strappado. The hands were bound behind the back with a rope, and the accused was suspended this way, dislocating the joints painfully in both arms. Weights could be added to the legs dislocating those joints as well. The organization is still active today under the name of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Prior to becoming Pope Benedict XVI, Cardinal Ratzinger was the head of the congregation. When Puritans settled in Massachusetts in the 1600s, they created a religious police state where doctrinal deviation could lead to flogging, pillorying, hanging, cutting off ears, or boring through the tongue with a hot iron. Preaching Quaker beliefs was a capital offense. Four stubborn Quakers defied this law and were hanged. In the 1690s fear of witches seized the colony. Twenty alleged witches were killed and 150 others imprisoned. Christians were first, and horribly, targeted for persecution as a group by the emperor Nero in 64 AD. A colossal fire broke out at Rome, and destroyed much of the city. Rumors abounded that Nero himself was responsible. To divert attention from the rumors, Nero ordered that Christians should be rounded up and killed. Some were torn apart by dogs, others burnt alive as human torches. Over the next hundred years or so, Christians were sporadically persecuted. Then in the mid-third century, emperors initiated even more intensive persecutions. This, “The Great Persecution”, is considered the largest. Beginning with a series of four edicts banning Christian practices and ordering the imprisonment of Christian clergy, the persecution intensified until all Christians in the empire were commanded to sacrifice to the gods or face immediate execution. This persecution was to be the last, as Constantine I soon came into power and in 313 legalized Christianity. The Aztecs began their elaborate theocracy in the 1300s and brought human sacrifice to a golden era. About 20,000 people were killed yearly to appease gods — especially the sun god, who needed daily “nourishment” of blood. Hearts of sacrifice victims were cut out, and some bodies were eaten ceremoniously. Other victims were drowned, beheaded, burned or dropped from heights. In a rite to the rain god, shrieking children were killed at several sites so that their tears might induce rain. In a rite to the maize goddess, a virgin danced for 24 hours, then was killed and skinned; her skin was worn by a priest in further dancing. One account says that at King Ahuitzotl’s coronation, 80,000 prisoners were butchered to please the gods. Islamic jihads (holy wars), mandated by the Koran, killed millions over 12 centuries. In early years, Muslim armies spread the faith rapidly: east to India and west to Morocco. Then splintering sects branded other Muslims as infidels and declared jihads against them. The Kharijis battled Sunni rulers. The Azariqis decreed death to all “sinners” and their families. In 1804 a Sudanese holy man, Usman dan Fodio, waged a bloody jihad that broke the religious sway of the Sultan of Gobir. In the 1850s another Sudanese mystic, ‘Umar al-Hajj, led a barbaric jihad to convert pagan African tribes.[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Pikachu. Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='Anti-Theist' timestamp='1325956268' post='5752770'] [spoiler=Relevant]Human sacrifices were still occurring in Buddhist Burma in the 1850s. When the capital was moved to Mandalay, 56 “spotless” men were buried beneath the new city walls to sanctify and protect the city. When two of the burial spots were later found empty, royal astrologers decreed that 500 men, women, boys, and girls must be killed and buried at once, or the capital must be abandoned. About 100 were actually buried before British governors stopped the ceremonies. Members of lndia’s Thuggee sect strangled people as sacrifices to appease the bloodthirsty goddess Kali, a practice beginning in the 1500s. The number of victims has been estimated to be as high as 2 million. Thugs were claiming about 20,000 lives a year in the 1800s until British rulers stamped them out. At a trial in 1840, one Thug was accused of killing 931 people. Today, some Hindu priests still sacrifice goats to Kali. The Mountain Meadows massacre was a mass killing of the Fancher-Baker wagon train at Mountain Meadows in Utah Territory on September 11, 1857, by a group of Mormons and Paiute Indians. The Arkansas emigrants were traveling to California shortly before Utah War started. Mormons throughout the Utah Territory had been mustered to fight the invading United States Army, which they believed was intended to destroy them as a people. Initially intending to orchestrate an Indian massacre, two men with leadership roles in local military, church and government organizations, Isaac C. Haight and John D. Lee, conspired for Lee to lead militiamen disguised as Native Americans along with a contingent of Paiute tribesmen in an attack. The emigrants fought back and a siege ensued. Intending to leave no witnesses of Mormon complicity in the siege and avoid reprisals complicating the Utah War, militiamen induced the emigrants to surrender and give up their weapons. After escorting the emigrants out of their fortification, the militiamen and their tribesmen auxiliaries executed approximately 120 men, women and children. The Medieval Inquisition is a series of Inquisitions (Roman Catholic Church bodies charged with suppressing heresy) from around 1184, including the Episcopal Inquisition (1184-1230s) and later the Papal Inquisition (1230s). It was in response to large popular movements throughout Europe considered apostate or heretical to Christianity, in particular Catharism and Waldensians in southern France and northern Italy. These were the first inquisition movements of many that would follow. Torture was used after 1252. On May 15, Pope Innocent IV issued a papal bull entitled Ad exstirpanda, which authorized the use of torture by inquisitors. The Inquisitors were forbidden to use methods that resulted in bloodshed, mutilation or death. One of the more common forms of medieval inquisition torture was known as strappado. The hands were bound behind the back with a rope, and the accused was suspended this way, dislocating the joints painfully in both arms. Weights could be added to the legs dislocating those joints as well. The organization is still active today under the name of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Prior to becoming Pope Benedict XVI, Cardinal Ratzinger was the head of the congregation. When Puritans settled in Massachusetts in the 1600s, they created a religious police state where doctrinal deviation could lead to flogging, pillorying, hanging, cutting off ears, or boring through the tongue with a hot iron. Preaching Quaker beliefs was a capital offense. Four stubborn Quakers defied this law and were hanged. In the 1690s fear of witches seized the colony. Twenty alleged witches were killed and 150 others imprisoned. Christians were first, and horribly, targeted for persecution as a group by the emperor Nero in 64 AD. A colossal fire broke out at Rome, and destroyed much of the city. Rumors abounded that Nero himself was responsible. To divert attention from the rumors, Nero ordered that Christians should be rounded up and killed. Some were torn apart by dogs, others burnt alive as human torches. Over the next hundred years or so, Christians were sporadically persecuted. Then in the mid-third century, emperors initiated even more intensive persecutions. This, “The Great Persecution”, is considered the largest. Beginning with a series of four edicts banning Christian practices and ordering the imprisonment of Christian clergy, the persecution intensified until all Christians in the empire were commanded to sacrifice to the gods or face immediate execution. This persecution was to be the last, as Constantine I soon came into power and in 313 legalized Christianity. The Aztecs began their elaborate theocracy in the 1300s and brought human sacrifice to a golden era. About 20,000 people were killed yearly to appease gods — especially the sun god, who needed daily “nourishment” of blood. Hearts of sacrifice victims were cut out, and some bodies were eaten ceremoniously. Other victims were drowned, beheaded, burned or dropped from heights. In a rite to the rain god, shrieking children were killed at several sites so that their tears might induce rain. In a rite to the maize goddess, a virgin danced for 24 hours, then was killed and skinned; her skin was worn by a priest in further dancing. One account says that at King Ahuitzotl’s coronation, 80,000 prisoners were butchered to please the gods. Islamic jihads (holy wars), mandated by the Koran, killed millions over 12 centuries. In early years, Muslim armies spread the faith rapidly: east to India and west to Morocco. Then splintering sects branded other Muslims as infidels and declared jihads against them. The Kharijis battled Sunni rulers. The Azariqis decreed death to all “sinners” and their families. In 1804 a Sudanese holy man, Usman dan Fodio, waged a bloody jihad that broke the religious sway of the Sultan of Gobir. In the 1850s another Sudanese mystic, ‘Umar al-Hajj, led a barbaric jihad to convert pagan African tribes.[/spoiler] [/quote] No one gives two shits about your bias copy pasta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='.Pikachu.' timestamp='1325957504' post='5752813'] No one gives two shits about your bias copy pasta. [/quote] Its relevant to the topic so I posted it. These are folk stories taken so seriously that it resulted in the deaths of hundreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='.Pikachu.' timestamp='1325957504' post='5752813'] No one gives two shits about your bias copy pasta. [/quote] That's entirely devoid of opinion - those paragraphs are stating facts, not opinions. Everything written there is true. True facts are not biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Pikachu. Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='Dт. Михаи́л Ботви́нник PчD' timestamp='1325958787' post='5752843'] That's entirely devoid of opinion - those paragraphs are stating facts, not opinions. Everything written there is true. True facts are not biased. [/quote] Cba to explain why it is an opinion and why I shouldn't have to state that it's an opinion to put it across. Even if they are facts, does that stop the text being wrote in a one sided way and not aknowledging both sides of an argument? Well, I don't know. You tell me, seriously. I didn't even read the thing. I have better things to do with my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='Anti-Theist' timestamp='1325956268' post='5752770'] Islamic [b]jihads (holy wars)[/b], mandated by the Koran [/quote] Bro You wouldn't happen to work for Fox News would you? Because only [i]they[/i] can screw up about as bad as you did there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='.Pikachu.' timestamp='1325959226' post='5752850'] Cba to explain why it is an opinion and why I shouldn't have to state that it's an opinion to put it across. Even if they are facts, does that stop the text being wrote in a one sided way and not aknowledging both sides of an argument? Well, I don't know. You tell me, seriously. I didn't even read the thing. I have better things to do with my time. [/quote] Guess which one those paragraphs were: [b] [i]o·pin·ion[/i]/əˈpinyən/[/b] [font=arial, sans-serif][size=1] Noun: [/size][/font][list] [*]A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. [*]The beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing. [/list] [b] [i]fact[/i]/fakt/[/b] [font=arial, sans-serif][size=1] Noun: [/size][/font][list] [*][font=arial, sans-serif][size=1]A thing that is indisputably the case.[/size][/font] [*][font=arial, sans-serif][size=1]Information used as evidence or as part of a report or news article.[/size][/font] [/list] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='Nightmare Zarkus' timestamp='1325964549' post='5752992'] Guess which one those paragraphs were: [b] [i]o·pin·ion[/i]/əˈpinyən/[/b] [font=arial, sans-serif][size=1] Noun: [/size][/font][list] [*]A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. [*]The beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing. [/list] [b] [i]fact[/i]/fakt/[/b] [font=arial, sans-serif][size=1] Noun: [/size][/font][list] [*][font=arial, sans-serif][size=1]A thing that is indisputably the case.[/size][/font] [*][font=arial, sans-serif][size=1]Information used as evidence or as part of a report or news article.[/size][/font] [/list] [/quote] except for the fact that I've already pointed out something that was thought to be a fact is little more than ignorance =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='iRemo' timestamp='1325960805' post='5752907'] Bro You wouldn't happen to work for Fox News would you? Because only [i]they[/i] can screw up about as bad as you did there [/quote] Let me explain. He's like the hardcore liberal equivalent of the people on Fox News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1325966525' post='5753063'] Let me explain. He's like the hardcore liberal equivalent of the people on Fox News. [/quote] except that excerpt showed the prejudiced view/ignorance expected of a far right person .___." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='iRemo' timestamp='1325967536' post='5753086'] except that excerpt showed the prejudiced view/ignorance expected of a far right person .___." [/quote] Don't stereotype. <3 Besides, misinformation isn't that big of a deal. I try not to blame people for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Our societies see human sacrifices as heathen devil worshiping acts, but it's within their culture to do that. How can we say they were wrong to do that if that's how they lived? Yes, we see them as savages, but their gods demand blood and these people were more than happy to provide it. In many of these cultures some people would volunteer to be sacrificed because they believed that it was their duty to their gods and they would be rewarded in the afterlife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRenji Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 WAIT, WHEN DID HUMAN SACRIFICE BECOME THE TOPIC? [img]http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/007/cache/great-horned-owl_773_600x450.jpg[/img] Come now people, let's keep it owl based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='iRemo' timestamp='1325967536' post='5753086'] except that excerpt showed the prejudiced view/ignorance expected of a far right person .___." [/quote] "According to the authoritative [i]Dictionary of Islam[/i] jihad is defined as: "A religious war with those who are unbelievers in the mission of Muhammad ... enjoined especially for the purpose of advancing Islam and repelling evil from Muslims."" ~Wikipedia Sounds like a holy war to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 It would appear so. [spoiler=Relevant] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ww3XH4zEg [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='CM Renji' timestamp='1325968206' post='5753102'] WAIT, WHEN DID HUMAN SACRIFICE BECOME THE TOPIC? [img]http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/007/cache/great-horned-owl_773_600x450.jpg[/img] Come now people, let's keep it owl based. [/quote] Well actually it has to do with folk stories, the lechuza being one of Mexico's. A lechuza is a witch who turns into an owl. I have done some research, on it and tried to find cultural variations on it and the closest thing is the harpy. But anyway, the main topic is folk stories and them being taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='Anti-Theist' timestamp='1325983421' post='5753419'] "According to the authoritative [i]Dictionary of Islam[/i] jihad is defined as: "A religious war with those who are unbelievers in the mission of Muhammad ... enjoined especially for the purpose of advancing Islam and repelling evil from Muslims."" ~Wikipedia Sounds like a holy war to me. [/quote] It's only 3/4th correct [spoiler "Not relevant to owls"] Jihad is translated as "struggle" and is [i]only[/i] used in the Quran as a struggle against Satan and falling to ones desires. Self control essentially. Hence the "repelling evil from Muslims". One is only allowed to take up arms when one is being attacked or is under threat. You can't even [i]find[/i] the word holy war in the Quran .-. And if you want to quote the first thing that caught your eye on the first thing you googled, here you go, "[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]In western societies[/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] the term [/size][/font][/color][i]jihad[/i][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] is often translated by non-Muslims as "holy war".[/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] Scholars of Islamic Studies[/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] often stress that these words are not synonymous.[/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] Muslim authors, in particular, tend to reject such an approach, stressing non-militant connotations of the word." [/spoiler][/size][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='iRemo' timestamp='1325990830' post='5753672'] It's only 3/4th correct [spoiler "Not relevant to owls"] Jihad is translated as "struggle" and is [i]only[/i] used in the Quran as a struggle against Satan and falling to ones desires. Self control essentially. Hence the "repelling evil from Muslims". One is only allowed to take up arms when one is being attacked or is under threat. You can't even [i]find[/i] the word holy war in the Quran .-. And if you want to quote the first thing that caught your eye on the first thing you googled, here you go, "[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]In western societies[/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] the term [/size][/font][/color][i]jihad[/i][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] is often translated by non-Muslims as "holy war".[/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] Scholars of Islamic Studies[/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] often stress that these words are not synonymous.[/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] Muslim authors, in particular, tend to reject such an approach, stressing non-militant connotations of the word." [/spoiler][/size][/font][/color] [/quote] Thanks because otherwise I would have continued thinking it was a Holy War. And screw Fox News BTW I watch MSNBC. Rachel Maddow FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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