.Nu-13 Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 [center][img]http://magiccards.info/scans/en/fvl/14.jpg[/img][/center] [center]Discuss.[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeal Ascendant Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 Pretty insane, just like the other eldrazi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 Eh...Normally Outclassed by Emrakul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 [quote name='-Venser el Transeúnte-' timestamp='1324225465' post='5715001'] Eh...Normally Outclassed by Emrakul [/quote] Good thing Emrakul is banned (In some formats) OT: "Worst" of the Titans, but still pretty damn good. The whole "When you cast" clause has its advantages, but it doesn't allow for as many Quicksilver Amulet shenanigans... But Kozilek and Emrakul are usually better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted December 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 [quote name='Rainbow Dash' timestamp='1324225902' post='5715008'] Good thing Emrakul is banned (In some formats) OT: "Worst" of the Titans, but still pretty damn good. The whole "When you cast" clause has its advantages, but it doesn't allow for as many Quicksilver Amulet shenanigans... But Kozilek and Emrakul are usually better. [/quote] I like this more than Kozilek. :< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 [quote name='-Makoto-' timestamp='1324229044' post='5715096'] I like this more than Kozilek. :< [/quote] Guessing is a matter of taste coz Kozilek make this card looks terrible... but the Again...So Does IT THAT BETRAYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 [quote name='-Venser el Transeúnte-' timestamp='1324230511' post='5715149'] IT THAT BETRAYS [/quote] I have a foil one and it looks sexy. Oh, and use this with Momentous Fall for lols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 [quote name='Rainbow Dash' timestamp='1324225902' post='5715008'] Good thing Emrakul is banned (In some formats) [/quote] Only format I know him to be banned in is commander. So yea.... If your trying to hard cast them Kozilek is better imo. Other wise not dieing to everything puts this 2nd in the bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 Kozilek is better only on hardcasting because draw 4 and 10 CMC. But this is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 Indestructibility is a lot better than most people give it credit for. Hence I believe this one is better than kozilek. Kozilek just feels so easy to get rid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 [quote name='Mysty' timestamp='1325263367' post='5738853'] Indestructibility is a lot better than most people give it credit for. Hence I believe this one is better than kozilek. Kozilek just feels so easy to get rid of. [/quote] Not really Indestructibility can't compete with the most common ways of removal ATM (Forced Sacrifing, Bouncing, Exiling, -1/-1 Counters) Also Kozilek help itself at being Undercosted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niv-Mizzet Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 I prefer Kozi, but I still like this one more than Emrakul. Not power-level wise, but more of an elegance thing. Emmie just feels like Akroma on crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 [quote name='-Venser el Transeúnte-' timestamp='1325265391' post='5738927'] Not really Indestructibility can't compete with the most common ways of removal ATM (Forced Sacrifing, Bouncing, Exiling, -1/-1 Counters) Also Kozilek help itself at being Undercosted... [/quote] It depends on which format you play that depicts which form of removal is dominant. In EDH (where I see Ulamog getting the most play), the most common removal is board nuke, which is almost always "destroy". White decks use Condemn, Oblation, Arrest effects and occasionally Oblivion Ring, Blue has Rite of Replication, Bribery, and Mind Control effects, and Black has its Sun's Zenith (if enough mana is pumped into it), but overall there are few other "EDH viable" ways of dealing with Indestructibles than by using Vows (and that doesn't really get rid of it as much as temporarily direct its attacks elsewhere). in my experience, the person who causes everyone's loss is usually either the person who entwines Tooth and Nail for an Ulamog and a Terastodon, or the person dumb enough to run Blightsteel or Ulamog against Blue decks. Do note: everyone who runs an Eldrazi at my locals run ulamog, not Kozilek. Kozilek gets destroyed by board nukes; this doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 I run both this AND Kozi in my EDH (I haz foil Kozi. ujelly?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 [quote name='Rainbow Dash' timestamp='1325300917' post='5740058'] I run both this AND Kozi in my EDH (I haz foil Kozi. ujelly?) [/quote] Youre just waiting to be Bribery'd by TWO Blue players, or a Blue player and someone with Fork/Reverberate/Wild Ricochet. At my locals, we don't really run really big creatures since Bribery is too stupid. Then again, at my locals, EDH is like Legacy but instead of CMC 2-3 bombs, we have CMC 6-7 bombs. I even use Mental Misstep at my locals because of how much the EDH is like Legacy; it proves itself to be very helpful. What general do you run for those Eldrazi? Green? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 [quote name='Mysty' timestamp='1325345881' post='5740869'] Youre just waiting to be Bribery'd by TWO Blue players, or a Blue player and someone with Fork/Reverberate/Wild Ricochet. At my locals, we don't really run really big creatures since Bribery is too stupid. Then again, at my locals, EDH is like Legacy but instead of CMC 2-3 bombs, we have CMC 6-7 bombs. I even use Mental Misstep at my locals because of how much the EDH is like Legacy; it proves itself to be very helpful. What general do you run for those Eldrazi? Green? [/quote] I've rarely seen Bribery played, but I get what you're saying. I run INtet as my General, since the deck is Red/Blue/Green (Or as I like to call it, RUG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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