evilhorus Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='Angeloid Beta' timestamp='1321221669' post='5638662'] They don't use it because it's a 'cheap gun' and all that hype. I personally don't see what the deal is, I've put it to shame with a P90 plenty of times. Maybe everyone I know just sucks? Q-Q Kind of explains my barely positive win:loss ratio in MW2.... [/quote]I see. I never understood the "weapon x is cheap, I hate it" mentality. If it's good and the game gives you an opportunity to be good, use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivenroth Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='Horus' timestamp='1321222089' post='5638678'] I see. I never understood the "weapon x is cheap, I hate it" mentality. If it's good and the game gives you an opportunity to be good, use it. [/quote] In their mind it's 'I don't need a good gun to be good! *proceeds to get -12 K/D followed by me gloating at my PUTTHETEAMONMYBACK status*' ...... Happens alot more often than not, surprisingly enough. I personally wouldn't even say it's one of the 'best guns' Maybe it's just the easiest to use? Therefore you see it more often, get killed by it more often. The guns becomes over used. People RAEG. ??? Profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 An easier to use gun is a better gun. That's logic. If another gun requires time and effort to make it as good as the easy gun, it's bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 'If a gun is good, use it'. Or maybe Infinity Ward and Sledgehammer games should just learn the meaning of the word 'balance'. Treyarch understand it well enough, but their games are regarded as poor by the community, usually for the sole reason that they are not Modern Warfare, and can't be Modern Warfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivenroth Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Yes, well... It all depends on the mentality of the person playing. Some people: Over-Used Gun=OPed Gun=Bad Gun. Others: Over-Used Gun=Amazing Gun=Put it on all classes. Myself: Over-Used Gun=GTFO I have a P90. I actually know people who will use a gun based off of looks as well. One in particular, WILL NOT, use anything that resembles an AK in any way. So yeah, I'd say better guns and what-not depend on the view points... Feel free to crush my dreams now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='Brushfire' timestamp='1321222891' post='5638721'] 'If a gun is good, use it'. Or maybe Infinity Ward and Sledgehammer games should just learn the meaning of the word 'balance'. Treyarch understand it well enough, but their games are regarded as poor by the community, usually for the sole reason that they are not Modern Warfare, and can't be Modern Warfare. [/quote] While Black Ops was good, it had nothing on MW2/3 in terms of polish (not Polish ;D). The hit detection situation was just awful. Honestly, it kinda defeats the purpose. Also, that "Migrating Host" problem. I still enjoyed Black Ops a lot, though. [i]"Treyarch understand it (balance) well enough"[/i] Ak74u, and contrary to popular belief, Strela 3. [quote name='Angeloid Beta' timestamp='1321223202' post='5638733'] Yes, well... It all depends on the mentality of the person playing. Some people: Over-Used Gun=OPed Gun=Bad Gun. Others: Over-Used Gun=Amazing Gun=Put it on all classes. Myself: Over-Used Gun=GTFO I have a P90. I actually know people who will use a gun based off of looks as well. One in particular, WILL NOT, use anything that resembles an AK in any way. So yeah, I'd say better guns and what-not depend on the view points... Feel free to crush my dreams now. [/quote] Well each to his own I guess. Shouldn't it be common logic to use one gun because it's better than the other or it suits your playstyle more? They should be the only two factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivenroth Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Common Sense: Not as abundant as it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Ak74u was amazing. UMP IS THE GREATEST GUN IN THE GA-*shot* No, but it's really, really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='AggroDrago' timestamp='1321224172' post='5638768'] Ak74u was amazing. UMP IS THE GREATEST GUN IN THE GA-*shot* No, but it's really, really good. [/quote] ikr, me gusta <3 I'll be using it until I find something better. Haven't found any yet :/ I like the M4A1, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivenroth Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I can't really make a call on the UMP. I only ever used it on new prestiges until I unlocked Create-A-Class, which normally doesn't take more than a game or 2, then it was the M4A1 from there until the end of time. Personal favorite though would be the P90. Reason some people think it's OPed, or 'cheap' : Massive clip. So it'll be the M4A1, the G36C and the P90 for me. :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Are we talking about MW2 or 3 nao? ACR. I need my ACR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivenroth Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 First 2 lines from me was MW2 3rd was my plans for MW3. And the ACR never works for me l: Dunno what it is, I can't kill in 2 or 3 bullets like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='Angeloid Beta' timestamp='1321225001' post='5638796'] First 2 lines from me was MW2 3rd was my plans for MW3. And the ACR never works for me l: Dunno what it is, I can't kill in 2 or 3 bullets like everyone else. [/quote]ACR isn't a 3-shot. It's a better M1A4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 MW3. I never liked the ACR. Maybe it didn't suit my playstyle. My favorite Assault Rifle was the Tar. I loved it <3 I haven't unlocked much ARs in MW3 yet, but the Scar-L seems good. I love it's Iron Sights. I'm still using the M4A1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivenroth Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='AggroDrago' timestamp='1321225206' post='5638807'] ACR isn't a 3-shot. It's a better M1A4. [/quote] I count the hit-markers in kill-cams. 2-3 shots kills me ALOT via ACR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='Horus' timestamp='1321225282' post='5638811'] MW3. I never liked the ACR. Maybe it didn't suit my playstyle. My favorite Assault Rifle was the Tar. I loved it <3 I haven't unlocked much ARs in MW3 yet, but the Scar-L seems good. I love it's Iron Sights. I'm still using the M4A1. [/quote]Oh, how I love how there's no recoil on the ACR. Scar is always good, it's ammo is just low. I remember unlocking it in MW2 and having my friends complain on how overpowered it was compared to the other guns we had at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='AggroDrago' timestamp='1321225735' post='5638838'] Oh, how I love how there's no recoil on the ACR. Scar is always good, it's ammo is just low. I remember unlocking it in MW2 and having my friends complain on how overpowered it was compared to the other guns we had at that point. [/quote]It's definitely one of the best early guns. tbh I can't remember some of the other early ones in MW2. FAMAS was good if you had good connection What are the best ARs in MW3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='AggroDrago' timestamp='1321224172' post='5638768'] UMP IS THE GREATEST GUN IN THE GA-*shot* [/quote] UMP45 [i]was[/i] the best gun in MW2 ( 3 hits = confirmed kill, silence = near perfect accuracy ), so I have high expectations for it in MW3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='Horus' timestamp='1321225898' post='5638846'] It's definitely one of the best early guns. tbh I can't remember some of the other early ones in MW2. FAMAS was good if you had good connection What are the best ARs in MW3? [/quote]I wouldn't know. I hardly use AR's. If you check my sig, about 2/3 of the way through the gameplay I have there I pick up an Opponent's silenced M1A4. It worked pretty well I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I think the FAL and the UMP were the only two weapons in MW2 to be 3 shot kills at any range. Of course excluding Snipers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivenroth Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Low recoil on the ACR bothered me for whatever reason. I can't hit moving targets with it...? /iBad And the Scar is awesome, other than it never having ammo when you need it. Extended Mags + Scavenger on that is just mean. Stopping Power was overkill. I hope it's just as good in MW3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='AggroDrago' timestamp='1321226179' post='5638857'] I wouldn't know. I hardly use AR's. If you check my sig, about 2/3 of the way through the gameplay I have there I pick up an Opponent's silenced M1A4. It worked pretty well I'd say. [/quote]I see. I think I'll stick with the Sub Machine guns myself. I was getting raped by the Type85(?) earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 AK-47 in MW and Blops was amazing. I want it. (though I didn't check, do we still have it?) Has anyone had success with a Shotgun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivenroth Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='AggroDrago' timestamp='1321226278' post='5638868'] AK-47 in MW and Blops was amazing. I want it. (though I didn't check, do we still have it?) [/quote] You should find this out now. One of my favorite guns to use, even if it was only for 5-ish games. Be a shame if it was gone Q~Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I was doing well enough with the Spas for a while, not as good as it used to be but boy DOES IT RELOAD FAST 0_0 Granted I had Sleight of Hand, but it's like nothing I've seen before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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