My attempt at making life gain somehow playable

[Blake]

I'm not flaming you, and I'm not being a troll =/

You're not good at this game. You've shown that. LP =/= Important. IT = Resource to use effectively.

No High tier deck has any use for this. I had to be TOLD what deck loves it most, because it's not tier ._.

[.Nu-13]

[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1320692253' post='5624096']
No High tier deck has any use for this. I had to be TOLD what deck loves it most, because it's not tier ._.
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Pretty much this.

[FreelancerRaiko]

and i've shown how lp can be very important in multiple ways. plus there are many many ways that people could figure out how card in multiple ways. you say high tier can't make use of of it but dark worlds can easily make use of it as i've already tested out. not only this but there are multitude of ways that people could easily figure out how to abuse as well, ranging from the number of draws used in ftk cannon dragons or future fusions ftk's as well, not to mention the high amount of life points gained frome exodia ftks.

i find it hilarious as well that you automatically assume i'm bad at the game when i can see how a card can be easily abused and thus have a disagreement in opinion with you. What you may see as useless, i can turn in to a weapon. if anything that's the sign of true skill. Of course, i don't just copy my decks from online and steal ideas from others but try to come up with my own strategies.

So lets summarized. Easily abusable in dark worlds and exodia ftk's along with other decks focusing on multiple draws such as the new cannon-dragon ftk or future fusion ftk, as well as a great life point net for any deck using multiple draws. Can easily be figured out on how to abuse and then reuse with cards such as agent of judgement (brand new agent build perhaps?), ancient sacred wyvern, etc.

once again, just because someone sees use in a card that you don't, doesn't make someone bad. In fact it makes that person better at the game.

As for the whole "just heavy or mst" it, that's not really a solid debate since you can do that with any card.

[quote name='Twilight Sparkle' timestamp='1320692224' post='5624095']
He's disproving your aruments and you're ignoring him. And he's not insulting you. He even said "you're not arrogant".
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Check again. He was actually calling me arrogant.

[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1320688633' post='5623968']
You're being pretty arrogant yourself, ironically.
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Understand his dislike for those who like to play on DMG; don't understand why i am still associated with it since i hate it myself and can't remember the last time i played on it. I agree they are horrible as well since they simply copy and paste a deck from a website. It's why i beat all the best players and "teams" on it with my Gem-Knights (and yes, i use Gem-Knights. Probably gonna say i suck for using that too right?) when i got bored and then left it forever. Haven't played it again since.

All in all, the card would be ok it's just when you take in consideration with the fact of how most people are at the game, the simplest card that shouldn't be overpowered is now made crazy. I mean just look at cannon soldier and how's it's probably going to get banned next format. It's actually a sad eventuality.

i would feel more confortable if it had kind of limiting effect like an only twice per turn type of thing.

[Blake]

[quote name='FreelancerRaiko' timestamp='1320694864' post='5624183']
and i've shown how lp can be very important in multiple ways. plus there are many many ways that people could figure out how card in multiple ways. you say high tier can't make use of of it but dark worlds can easily make use of it as i've already tested out. not only this but there are multitude of ways that people could easily figure out how to abuse as well, ranging from the number of draws used in ftk cannon dragons or future fusions ftk's as well, not to mention the high amount of life points gained frome exodia ftks.

[b]You've shown nothing of the sort ._. Dark Worlds can't, and if you "tested it out" you were duelign a huge n00b. Cannon Dragon OTK doesn't work, Future Fusion FTK is inconsistent as an FTK, and, seriously, what's the point of this in a FTK? =/[/b]

[b]And no, this is not good in Exodia, either.[/b]

i find it hilarious as well that you automatically assume i'm bad at the game when i can see how a card can be easily abused and thus have a disagreement in opinion with you. What you may see as useless, i can turn in to a weapon. if anything that's the sign of true skill. Of course, i don't just copy my decks from online and steal ideas from others but try to come up with my own strategies.

[b]It's not abusable. And, it's funny, 'cause, people only use the word "opinion" when they're losing. I don't copy decks, I made Chaos Fableds, Lv. 7 Resonators, Quickdraw Inca, and a few other ORIGINAL decks.[/b]

So lets summarized. Easily abusable in dark worlds and exodia ftk's along with other decks focusing on multiple draws such as the new cannon-dragon ftk or future fusion ftk, as well as a great life point net for any deck using multiple draws. Can easily be figured out on how to abuse and then reuse with cards such as agent of judgement (brand new agent build perhaps?), ancient sacred wyvern, etc.

[b]It's not abusable at all. Wyvern makes it usable, not abusable, seeing as I've had a Fabled Infinite LP loop.dek. Ask Twilight/Meta, his Granel loop inspired me, and it was partially his idea. The LP gain is not worth the deck slot outside of 1 deck. Agent of Judgment is terrible no matter the build, btw.[/b]

once again, just because someone sees use in a card that you don't, doesn't make someone bad. In fact it makes that person better at the game.

[b]No, you're plain bad, because you're seeing bad combos and are flaunting them as good.[/b]

As for the whole "just heavy or mst" it, that's not really a solid debate since you can do that with any card.

[b]It's as solid as your debates have been ._.[/b]

All in all, the card would be ok it's just when you take in consideration with the fact of how most people are at the game, the simplest card that shouldn't be overpowered is now made crazy. I mean just look at cannon soldier and how's it's probably going to get banned next format. It's actually a sad eventuality.

[b]it's not going to get banned. If you knew anythign about the game, you'd know why =_=[/b]

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Most people are terrible at the game, btw.

[.Rai]

[quote name='FreelancerRaiko' timestamp='1320694864' post='5624183']
and i've shown how lp can be very important in multiple ways. plus there are many many ways that people could figure out how card in multiple ways. you say high tier can't make use of of it but dark worlds can easily make use of it as i've already tested out. not only this but there are multitude of ways that people could easily figure out how to abuse as well, ranging from the number of draws used in ftk cannon dragons or future fusions ftk's as well, not to mention the high amount of life points gained frome exodia ftks.

i find it hilarious as well that you automatically assume i'm bad at the game when i can see how a card can be easily abused and thus have a disagreement in opinion with you. What you may see as useless, i can turn in to a weapon. if anything that's the sign of true skill. Of course, i don't just copy my decks from online and steal ideas from others but try to come up with my own strategies.

So lets summarized. Easily abusable in dark worlds and exodia ftk's along with other decks focusing on multiple draws such as the new cannon-dragon ftk or future fusion ftk, as well as a great life point net for any deck using multiple draws. Can easily be figured out on how to abuse and then reuse with cards such as agent of judgement (brand new agent build perhaps?), ancient sacred wyvern, etc.

once again, just because someone sees use in a card that you don't, doesn't make someone bad. In fact it makes that person better at the game.

As for the whole "just heavy or mst" it, that's not really a solid debate since you can do that with any card.

All in all, the card would be ok it's just when you take in consideration with the fact of how most people are at the game, the simplest card that shouldn't be overpowered is now made crazy. I mean just look at cannon soldier and how's it's probably going to get banned next format. It's actually a sad eventuality.
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1. Why would I use this over something that will let me win in a couple of turns? I don't want something that makes me SURVIVE, I want to FRICKING KILL MY OPPONENT. Exodia could use this, but if you're going to win that, why would you even want to use this ._. All it does is make your deck inconsistent. And Future Fusion FTK is so inconsistent, it's not funny. You don't want to draw at all in it, yet you have to. And this doesn't help with the consistency. oh, and Cannon Dragon OTK doesn't exist anymore.
2. You didn't say how it could be abused. You just said, "Oh look. I can gain Life Points in Dark Worlds." And tons of people have original decks here ._. Olly kinda invented consistent Gladiator Fish. I invented Insect Mash and Macro Bell. Tons of people have made stuff like Incas and Fabled good. Miror made Granel loop popular. Dae made BX800. No original decks?
3. You're only good if you see good combos.