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[color=#00ff00][b]Endymion's Journal[/b][/color]
[i][color=#00ff00]Continuous Spell[/color][/i]
[i][color=#00ff00]You have no maximum hand size. Whenever you draw a card: Gain 300 Life Points for each card in your hand.[/color][/i]

On the other hand, I think I just created a blatant staple.

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FreelancerRaiko Newbie

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[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1320686399' post='5623909']
wat

How is this broken in Dark World?

... Wait, were you banned, and came back as an alt?
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what? no dude just really haven't made that many posts in the main area where it actually contributes to the post count.

secondly dark world decks like to draw a lot these days. Hello. Gates of the Dark World. Dark World Dealings. Browwn. They draw plenty enough as it is. and giving life points every time you draw is completely insane. maybe making it where it only works on the normal draw at the start of every turn would make it less op.

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[quote name='FreelancerRaiko' timestamp='1320686761' post='5623915']
what? no dude just really haven't made that many posts in the main area where it actually contributes to the post count.

secondly dark world decks like to draw a lot these days. Hello. Gates of the Dark World. Dark World Dealings. Browwn. They draw plenty enough as it is. and giving life points every time you draw is completely insane. maybe making it where it only works on the normal draw at the start of every turn would make it less op.
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Stop being stupid.

Yes, they draw, but they thrive on maintaining advantage, not on getting an overly large hand. And space is TIGHT. By your logic, this is broken in Fableds.

It's not overpowered at all.

God, DMG people make no sense =_=

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FreelancerRaiko Newbie

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Dude it makes you gain 300 life points for EVERY CARD IN HAND when you draw. go play a dark world deck and count how many times they draw and work out for yourself how many lp they would gain for it. I just did and in a single turn they would gain over 4000 lp. you don't need to have that large of a hand if you draw multiple times. Secondly, be respectful when talking to people. Seriously, you don't see me throwing insults or trying to start a flame war. It's called being concise, polite, and logical.

What the does "DMG people make no sense" even mean? >>

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[quote name='FreelancerRaiko' timestamp='1320687242' post='5623931']
Dude it makes you gain 300 life points for EVERY CARD IN HAND when you draw. go play a dark world deck and count how many times they draw and work out for yourself how many lp they would gain for it. Secondly, be respectful when talking to people. Seriously, you don't see me throwing insults or trying to start a flame war. It's called being concise and logical.

What the does "DMG people make no sense" even mean? >>
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I'm not starting a flame war, at all. You're just bad at this game.

You're calling this card broken when it's not. I play against Dark Worlds. They draw a lot, yes, but they generally don't have a high hand count to abuse this. And again- SPACE. There is no room for this in Dark Worlds when it's JUST LP gain.

And, again, by your logic, this is broken in Fableds. Their entire schtick is DRAWDRAWDRAWSPAM

You're not being logical, you're being OH NOES BROKENZ CAUSE LPZ ARE IMPORTANT.

I've seen you on DMG before. People from DMG SUCK at this game. I mean, one of the "Best players", Val, said Tengu doesn't need a Semi, and DMG's Crown of the empress (Draw 2 per Synchro on the field) wasn't broken =/

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Ieyasu Tokugawa Newbie

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[quote name='FreelancerRaiko' timestamp='1320687242' post='5623931']
Dude it makes you gain 300 life points for EVERY CARD IN HAND when you draw. go play a dark world deck and count how many times they draw and work out for yourself how many lp they would gain for it. I just did and in a single turn they would gain over 4000 lp. you don't need to have that large of a hand if you draw multiple times. Secondly, be respectful when talking to people. Seriously, you don't see me throwing insults or trying to start a flame war. It's called being concise, polite, and logical.
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Neo Spacian Air Hummingbird has a better LP gain than this. Why isn't it run? Oh yeah, because LP gain isn't that important if you have a crap field. All this does is give a bonus to your draws. DWs keep crap hand advantage, they can just search out what they need. Most of their draw spells are a -1, only Snoww would make it a +0 hand advantage since you could resolve it first.

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Dude lp is actually important believe it or not. Reducing an opponent's life points to zero is the main way you win in case you haven't noticed.

Dark Worlds may have a -1 to hand advantage if they're not being combo'd with browwn but even then it does a lot more. Using the effect multiple times during a single turn generates a much higher rate of life point gain even if they get a -1.

And lets not even begin to explain how this would make the current ftk exodia decks truly invincible.

As for DMG, that was a long time ago and i left it because i hated the people on it for being the most arrogant flaming a******s in the world. They took a card game and used it as a means of dominance as if it makes someone important or worthless meanwhile all they did was just copy some deck on the net. So i left it. That was over a year ago...

But you honestly seem like you'd fit in with your attitude Yuzuru.

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[quote name='FreelancerRaiko' timestamp='1320688362' post='5623956']
Dude lp is important. Reducing an opponent's life points to zero is the main way you win. Go ask anyone else.

And yes it would be overpowered in Fableds as well. Life points are important believe it or not. And lets not even begin to explain how this would make the current ftk exodia decks truly invincible.

As for DMG, that was a long time ago and i left it because i hated the people on it for being the most arrogant flaming a******s in the world. They took a card game and used it as a means of dominance as if it makes someone important or worthless meanwhile all they did was just copy some deck on the net. So i left it. That was over a year ago...

But you honestly seem like you'd fit in with your attitude kid.
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Yes, this is true... But LP gain is not so great, nor does it matter. LP matters in the OTK and Solemn senses.

It wouldn't make exodia invincible, or be broke in Fableds =_= Fableds don't run a lot of Spells and traps, only `11-14 or so, max. LP doesn't matter in anything outside of Infini-LP loops which are meh/bad and OTKs and Solemn. Why do you think Upstart Goblin is Viable?

No, you were on less than a year ago, because I saw you, like, this summer =/

I'm not flaming, nor am I arrogant, I just know you're bad at the game, and this isn't broken. =T

You're being pretty arrogant yourself, ironically.

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It's called sacrifice for a reason, but when you can solemn the right card it makes the life point loss tolerable because in the end it supresses your opponent thus causing you to actually have less life point loss than you would lose in the end. (i.e. Solemn warning on a shooting quasar dragon means instead of taking a huge beating you just lose 2000 lp instead.) After all, that's the point of the otk.

You may have saw me on dme during the summer but i decided to quit that too since people on there don't have any desire to improve the game engine itself or improve on what makes their version advantageous (i.e. They still have the same system that the guy who designed DMG made years ago when he was still working with the DME staff, and they also never add any more custom cards or add the manga cards anymore).

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Blake Newbie

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[quote name='FreelancerRaiko' timestamp='1320688729' post='5623970']
It's called sacrifice for a reason, but when you can solemn the right card it makes the life point loss tolerable because in the end it supresses your opponent thus causing you to actually have less life point loss than you would lose in the end. (i.e. Solemn warning on a shooting quasar dragon means instead of taking a huge beating you just lose 2000 lp instead.) After all, that's the point of the otk.
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I solemn Tour Guide. =|

Seriously, I've solemned Royal MAgical Library. Your argument is leaking all over.

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FreelancerRaiko Newbie

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Maybe you just seem to think of me as being bad simply because you don't see the potential spam behind this, or if you simply gain over 4-6 k lp in a single turn it makes it insanely harder for your opponent to otk you and it lets not forget the power it then adds to agent saturn now. yay agents just got even more powerful along with dark worlds. Two metas just got a huge boost because of it. >>

and you can solemn royal magical but if your opponent then just nukes your field with a heavy storm or dark hole it kind of proves pointless and a waste, but then again that's what someone who doesn't think ahead does. Plus more life points mean less sacrifice when using the solemn cards themselves. And the more life points the more swarm they need to pull off, effectively giving you a safety net because of that fact if they have over 12000 lp after their first turn then.

Yuzuru, honestly you seem to remind me of the people on dmg you hate so much, and you also seem like the kind of guy who can't really seem to think outside of the box when it comes to different cards or how they can be used. Sparkle seems to be holding more of an argument so i'm simply going to respond to him now since he's actually doing good for your side instead of acting like a completely arrogant ass.

Don't feed the trolls after all.

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Well this card would create an incentive to then use saturn would it not? not to mention ancient sacred wyvern just became an insane beatstick. luckily agents aren't as draw focused. still i'm sure people can easily figure out how to abuse this card to the n'th degree with agents as well. Pretty much the card is just an all around middle finger if you can't ftk.

Later in game for decks that don't focus on multiple draws (not counting hand advantage): ok.

Early game decks that focus on multiple draws: easily abused.

And makes an exodia ftk invincble if it fails to do the job on the first turn for some reason.

Then again, running self destruct button would be funny as hell if you had to duel someone with it.

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Blake Newbie

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Library leads to drawing. Drawing leads to Exodia, a deck you mentioned.

Congrats, you proved your own argument terrible =/

Also, MST or Storm kills this HERPDERP.

Also, think outside of the Box? I built QuickdrawInca, Chaos Fableds back when people said NO to doppel and warwolf in there, Lv. 7 Resonators, etc. I am thinkign outside the box a lot, this card's just not broken.

This would not be an Incentive for Saturn. Saturn sucks. This card's not meta worthy.

And I don't hate DMG people- They're just bad. Like you. And you're being arrogant, I'm just pointing out how you're wrong =/

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already said earlier if you want to discuss with me, you need to act respectful to others while doing so instead of acting like i troll. If you wish to have a discussion over something, then you shouldn't be slinging around the crap, especially over something like this. debates are about logic and respect, not who can start a flame war the fastest. i won't discuss with someone when they view some random card discussion as an appropriate means to try and act like a jerk. If they get ignored because of that fact, that is their own fault because that is the natural end result of that action.

People > card games.

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