Wahrheit Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 [url="https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/%21/petition/we-demand-vapid-condescending-meaningless-politically-safe-response-petition/gCZfn86x?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl"][i]Relevant[/i][/url] While I can appreciate the [b]extremely busy[/b] nature of the administration team and the unfortunate impotency of the acting staff to enable or enforce most truly positive and encouraging ideas, I for one would appreciate just a little bit more enthusiasm and attempt to invoke a lively community spirit. At the end of the war for unity you will have either given up partway through or seen it all the way to the end (bitter or beautiful as it may be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan11932 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 I know how you feel, as I posted recently on a topic of considerable depth somewhat pertaining to this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Which is why some sort of community council should be organized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrheit Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name='Cursed Reaction' timestamp='1320589509' post='5621132'] Which is why some sort of community council should be organized. [/quote] The issue is not whether there should be a council or any sort of other staff, they have as much power with official designation as without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 One has always been in favour of some form of democratic council or suchlike, and as a Moderator one has put this proposition forward in the Moderator's Forum. The answer was as condescending as ever - the member base are "too stupid" and "won't take elections seriously". It would "become a popularity contest". Well, the current Fascist method of Moderator Election is a popularity contest, just with an audience of elitist, arrogant teens with the power to enforce it. RL elections aren't taken seriously by everyone - here in the UK we have "The Monster Raving Loony Party". The current league of staff are the best we've ever had, but they still look upon the population of this site with the blind disdain of the British Raj in India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name='Dт. Михаи́л Ботви́нник PчD' timestamp='1320593784' post='5621208'] The current league of staff are the best we've ever had, but they still look upon the population of this site with the blind disdain of the British Raj in India. [/quote] I don't, however I do find certain personality types frustrating. And many of the members that would be picked IF it was decided by most else (including some moderators), I feel would not be suitable for their positions. If it's any consolation though, I have always done some kind of test or voting before actually submitting people to be moderators. Which Pika herself has apparently picked up as a habit as well to some extent (when deciding on the latest Your Deck mod). Though... I have a good feeling a democracy system more straightforward would be good for Custom Cards. Might even shave some hair's I have difficulty getting to myself without any problem or injury... Heh we'll see what I (or you via PM after making a draft/or anyone who wants to put their voice in with this but PM me) can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Pika's vote for Your Deck mod went extremely well. evilfusion is a great mod whom is also a good person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 ... What is it that you want again? =\ I mean, besides a vapid, condescending, meaningless, politically safe response? In regards to what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ярополк Пономарёв Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1320599258' post='5621463'] ... What is it that you want again? =\ I mean, besides a vapid, condescending, meaningless, politically safe response? In regards to what? [/quote] I couldn't understand the OP either, Pika. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrheit Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 I'm looking for a little more involvement, effort, attitude? Unless your ability to post in the news forum was revoked there's no reason the last post should be from January and the last posted topic should be from over a year ago. At least with previous staff-thrown events or opportunities people engaged themselves and things above standard thinking level (which is quite low to begin with) happened. Some sites have done things like scavenger hunts before, that could work well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Eh, I'm not the most eloquent or correct speaking person or whatever when it comes to official announcements, so that's why I don't post in news. As for events or opportunities... we actually had a discussion on this and it always boiled down to two major problems: 1: What would we do? Remembering our powers are extremely limited. Lock, ban, sticky, unsticky, post, delete. We can't do a massive site-wide overhaul or something. 2: What 'prizes' would we give away? As mods, all we can do is give everyone involved a million billion posts, reps, points, but all of that is worthless if you started thinking about it, and if we start giving it away like it's candy it loses what little intrinsic value some people may think it has. On an unrelated note, I believe I had a scavenger hunt idea for Easter, but eventually we all forgot about it until it was the week before Easter. =\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1320596431' post='5621312'] I don't, however I do find certain personality types frustrating. And many of the members that would be picked IF it was decided by most else (including some moderators), I feel would not be suitable for their positions. If it's any consolation though, I have always done some kind of test or voting before actually submitting people to be moderators. Which Pika herself has apparently picked up as a habit as well to some extent (when deciding on the latest Your Deck mod). Though... I have a good feeling a democracy system more straightforward would be good for Custom Cards. Might even shave some hair's I have difficulty getting to myself without any problem or injury... Heh we'll see what I (or you via PM after making a draft/or anyone who wants to put their voice in with this but PM me) can think of. [/quote] [b][u][i]democracy system[/i][/u][/b] That intrigue's me, everyone thinks democracy is good, but really, look around, all the countries/continents that are democracy ruled or communist ruled is fleeing, and to where, to America.....Even more interesting is that once they get here, they try and turn it to a country that is like there's, failing when they left it b/c they didn't like it???....We were republican, but people keep changing it, or trying it....look at the flag, republic, and yes, I know what that means, I've looked it up and everything, and I have a family of democrats and republicans, so don't just say I go with the one side b/c of family.....I'm actually more leaning to be a constitutionist, except for a few things they say I don't like, but good thing is I can say no/yes to it.... @OP: Anywhoo, if there was going to be any political ruling on the webs, I would have to say I'd leave in a heartbeat, I hate politics and politicians with a passion..... Seriously, if you want to debate about politics and etc, go to other government related forums.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 ...what has there been to announce? The only things I could think of would be: a) New staff promotions, which you'd find out about them anyways. b) Events. This is kinda our fault, since we haven't gotten a big site-wide event up since March-ish. The more recent ones have been subforum-specific (CC, Fanfic, etc.) c) YCMaker actually overhauling something. Why would we announce that for him? So, yah. No need. o-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrheit Posted November 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 It's not entirely my place to tell you how to do your jobs specifically, this is simply a suggestion that would help make the site look like it's not buried alive and gasping for breath to anyone new. That January last post date is just sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 I haven't been involved community-wise lately, but where is YCMaker? I remember a few years ago he'd at least sign on sporadically and check things out, now it looks like he's never on and you never see anything new announced. :/ Something like this might actually be useful to keep things new/interesting/as exciting as they could possibly get on a place like YCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 I thought it was explained already that "News" has little purpose. Whatever new thing to announce there would be, we can usually see it from the get-go. New staff members are usually pretty obvious. It's not that there's no communication or no news, there's just no reason to make a topic in that section 99% of the time. As for YCMaker, he's a rare presence from what I gathered, but still appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 People seem to be overcomplicating stuff here. This site's primary focus is creating customized cards, for a card game, right? Although most of the users don't do that, and we have a sick culture of despising new members because they either don't have an advanced knowledge about the game, or bad grammar, or different ideas than ours, etc. This forum is big, but its not really as big as to need giant contests every month, or a council for planning new stuff, because well, as stated above by Pika, what stuff? Our admins are 1. Vanished; 2. Almost inactive and only does necessary maintenance. We don't have freedom for fancy stuff. While it would be cool to have something big, we'd need to rely on YCMaker, and we all know that's not wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Guys, as I kept saying, stop with suggestions and stuff. None of those will happen. We have to live with what we have now. YCMaker left us alone. Like, a God. He created us and gave us home, and free will. Now, we strive for ourselves. There's a lot of stuff that can be improved, but you just have to deal with it. Don't like it? Go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrheit Posted November 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 If the forum is dedicated to the card maker, then perhaps the card maker should be updated in accordance with the current gameplay and a news article posted about it? That would be relevant if either admin were ever online, which I understand is the limiting factor. So, do something in lieu of that. Distract us, entertain us. Have something that's actually coordinated and not [i]entirely silly[/i] (the YCM awards are silly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Distract you from what? Entertain you how? I wasn't aware it was the jobs of the moderating staff and administrators to do such things. We have a whole group of forums, ranging from discussions on the RL card game, Deck fixes, posting custom cards, RPs, fanfics, random games, and other stuff I know nothing about due to never going in those sections. Most entertainment and distractions is provided by other users, not the mods. We're around to make sure the entertainment and distractions isn't inappropriate and kept from getting out of control. Certainly, events wouldn't be a bad idea, but organizing those things is probably be difficult, based on scheduling and availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrheit Posted November 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 You're all quite willing to do with the mundane until it does you part, which is exactly what is happening. People who deal with the mundane continue to deal with it and don't do a whole lot else. They get bored of it, sick of it, and leave. They usually leave ripples of disappointment which spread like a virus. So let's have something different, new, exciting happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Such as? I mean, "MAKE THE SITE BETTER!" is a funny rallying cry and all that, but I suddenly remember some old crappy video I remember seeing in high school. It was all about setting "SMART" goals. Specific, Measurable, Attainable, Realistic, Time-Bound goals. So... yeah. "Make site better!" isn't specific, measurable, ETC ETC! It's just a general sentence. Me personally? I've got work (as in, a job), I'm working on my crappy fic, and I'm in charge of some other forum. I don't think it has to be 100% the mods who do this stuff. I'm pretty sure all the major/minor yearly events (Member Battle, YCM Awards) were hosted by regular members, not the mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrheit Posted November 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1320721108' post='5625423'] Such as? I mean, "MAKE THE SITE BETTER!" is a funny rallying cry and all that, but I suddenly remember some old crappy video I remember seeing in high school. It was all about setting "SMART" goals. Specific, Measurable, Attainable, Realistic, Time-Bound goals. So... yeah. "Make site better!" isn't specific, measurable, ETC ETC! It's just a general sentence. Me personally? I've got work (as in, a job), I'm working on my crappy fic, and I'm in charge of some other forum. I don't think it has to be 100% the mods who do this stuff. I'm pretty sure all the major/minor yearly events (Member Battle, YCM Awards) were hosted by regular members, not the mods. [/quote] And that is why they suck. Give me a little bit of time (the week) and I shall come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 [quote name='Wahrheit' timestamp='1320729393' post='5625782'] And that is why they suck. Give me a little bit of time (the week) and I shall come back. [/quote] You're complaining about the lack of events right? Then you shouldn't be complaining about the few we do have. Beggars cannot be choosers, Draco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrheit Posted November 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 [quote name='Mr. Striker' timestamp='1320729728' post='5625789'] You're complaining about the lack of events right? Then you shouldn't be complaining about the few we do have. Beggars cannot be choosers, Draco. [/quote] See last line previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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