MarbleZone Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Grand Guard Counter Trap Card "Monsters you control cannot be destroyed by battle or by card effects this turn." Thought about it yesterday. Would this see play in today's meta? Link to comment
Lunar Origins Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 [quote name='MarbleZone' timestamp='1320094477' post='5609692'] Grand Guard Counter Trap Card "Monsters you control cannot be destroyed by battle or by card effects this turn." Thought about it yesterday. Would this see play in today's meta? [/quote] This is not a counter trap, and yes, it would be overplayed. Link to comment
.Rai Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Would be hilariously better as a Normal Trap Card. But, it's screaming OTK to me. Luckily, we're not in a massive OTK format. Link to comment
This Account is Unplayable Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 There's nothing in the rules that says it can't be a counter trap. Honestly looks.... really really interesting. Great against other counter traps too... Link to comment
Lunar Origins Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 [quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1320094601' post='5609699'] There's nothing in the rules that says it can't be a counter trap. Honestly looks.... really really interesting. Great against other counter traps too... [/quote] Oh. I thought that all Counter Traps- Oh, now I see. Link to comment
MarbleZone Posted October 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 [quote name='Cursed Reaction' timestamp='1320094571' post='5609697'] Would be hilariously better as a Normal Trap Card. [/quote] As usual, I'm miles behind in the thought process. Could you explain? Link to comment
This Account is Unplayable Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 It's best as a counter trap, Cursed is just being silly. Link to comment
.Rai Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 [quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1320094734' post='5609710'] It's best as a counter trap, Cursed is just being silly. [/quote] But the chainability D: But, yeah, probably better as Counter Trap, because there's not much you can chain to this card anyway. If there was, then that's a different matter. Link to comment
This Account is Unplayable Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 [quote name='Cursed Reaction' timestamp='1320094966' post='5609722'] But the chainability D: But, yeah, probably better as Counter Trap, because there's not much you can chain to this card anyway. If there was, then that's a different matter. [/quote] Being a counter trap means you can chain to Solemns. :3 And Counter Traps don't have to be used in response to something, so it only helps. Link to comment
Lunar Origins Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 [quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1320095095' post='5609733'] And Counter Traps don't have to be used in response to something, so it only helps. [/quote] They don't? Oh. I did not know that. This card would surely be run in many things. Link to comment
This Account is Unplayable Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 [quote name='Lunar Origin' timestamp='1320095209' post='5609737'] They don't? Oh. I did not know that. This card would surely be run in many things. [/quote] Proof is Negate Attack, obv. Link to comment
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 [quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1320095244' post='5609739'] Proof is Negate Attack, obv. [/quote] Responds to an attack. Link to comment
This Account is Unplayable Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 [quote name='Twilight Sparkle' timestamp='1320095293' post='5609741'] Responds to an attack. [/quote] Either way, would you ever not use this as a response to something? Link to comment
Tentacruel Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I thought Counter Traps were always in response to something. Link to comment
This Account is Unplayable Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1320106652' post='5610054'] I thought Counter Traps were always in response to something. [/quote] If that's the case, which it appears to be, then it's a built-in rule with being a counter trap. Counter traps only specify the exact time to activate them because they can only be used in response to X. Whereas this card can be chained to anything. Link to comment
Agro Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 It's not that it can't be a counter trap, it's that it'd be more realistic if it were. Link to comment
MarbleZone Posted November 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Okay, discuss it as if it was a Normal Trap then; the effect and its playability were what I hoped we could discuss, not this. :/ Link to comment
Agro Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 [quote name='MarbleZone' timestamp='1320144963' post='5610579'] Okay, discuss it as if it was a Normal Trap then; the effect and its playability were what I hoped we could discuss, not this. :/ [/quote]Well its playability is connected to whether it's a counter trap or not. If it's a counter it can be chained to cards like Solemn Judgment to stop it from destroying, let's say a Stardust Dragon. Of course, those cards also negate the summoning, so I'm not exactly sure if it would be better as a Counter or not. As for its effect: It's good. It's chainable and it can save you from Mirror Force, Torrential, Dark Hole, JD, DAD, and battle. That's not half bad, but it probably wouldn't see play for the basic fact that there are better cards to play in a deck and it would be hard pressed to find room. It's a great concept, but the amount of important cards per deck kinda water down its usability. Link to comment
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