byak Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 1. Ren is a f***ing sack 2. Kai could've intercepted with Berserk Dragon to ensure himself protection against one trigger so he's actually horrible Ren's field: 33k PBO, Blaster Dark (5k intercept), PBD that could attack Ren's hand: Nothing Kai's field: 13k DOtE, Berserk Dragon (5k intercept), Conroe, Bahr, Aermo Kai's hand: Blue Ray Dracokid (10k guard), Blue Ray Dracokid (10k guard), Burning Horn Dragon (5k guard), DOtE Ren swings for 33k against 13k Kai guards with everything in his hand (25k), meaning one trigger would break it. Playing against a deck that plays 8 crits out of 16 triggers means it's going to show up half of the time you get a trigger, so if he rips a trigger Kai essentially loses. Plus the Berserk Dragon isn't really going to do s*** sitting there, so Kai really should've intercepted with it. Ren rips a crit for game (+ Mac Lir for the perfect defense afterwards). Now, if Kai had intercepted, Ren would've given all effects to PBD. Then PBD would attack Kai for game, but Kai's second damage check was a heal, so he'd survive back in the game. Also, the next card Kai would've drawn was another DOtE. Now, in this scenario, Kai would have 3 DOtE on the board, all 11k. He could also use Conroe's skill to search for a Bahr/Promises Aermo. So his field would be three 19k attackers. This means Ren would need to guard with 30k total not counting triggers. His only means of guarding were given, Mac Lir + cih and Blaster Dark, meaning he couldn't block one of the RG swings. Now, he was at four damage, so Kai would need a crit to win the game, but this still proves that Kai could've played out of a situation like that. 3. Suiko is a fa**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 I predict they will have a rematch after the finals where Kai actually does win and turns Ren to the side of good for season two; forming a team called Qualia Prime or something. I mean, Riku already proved Dark Is Not Evil years ago, right? Now, watch this Bible code thing that I do which validates my theory... [color=#ff0000]Qua[/color]d[color=#008080]ri[/color]foglio [color=#0000ff]A[/color][color=#8b4513]p[/color][color=#ffd700]e[/color]x [color=#00ff00]Li[/color][color=#ffa500]m[/color]it[color=#800080]e[/color]d [color=#ff0000]Qua[color=#00ff00]l[color="#00ff00"]i[/color][/color][/color][color=#0000cd]a [color=#8b4513]P[color=#008080]ri[color=#ffa500]m[color=#800080]e[/color][/color][/color][/color][/color] It's legit guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='byakklon Omega' timestamp='1328927656' post='5809683'] 2. Kai could've intercepted with Berserk Dragon to ensure himself protection against one trigger so he's actually horrible Ren's field: 33k PBO, Blaster Dark (5k intercept), PBD that could attack Ren's hand: Nothing Kai's field: 13k DOtE, Berserk Dragon (5k intercept), Conroe, Bahr, Aermo Kai's hand: Blue Ray Dracokid (10k guard), Blue Ray Dracokid (10k guard), Burning Horn Dragon (5k guard), DOtE Ren swings for 33k against 13k Kai guards with everything in his hand (25k), meaning one trigger would break it. Playing against a deck that plays 8 crits out of 16 triggers means it's going to show up half of the time you get a trigger, so if he rips a trigger Kai essentially loses. Plus the Berserk Dragon isn't really going to do s*** sitting there, so Kai really should've intercepted with it. Ren rips a crit for game (+ Mac Lir for the perfect defense afterwards). Now, if Kai had intercepted, Ren would've given all effects to PBD. Then PBD would attack Kai for game, but Kai's second damage check was a heal, so he'd survive back in the game. Also, the next card Kai would've drawn was another DOtE. Now, in this scenario, Kai would have 3 DOtE on the board, all 11k. He could also use Conroe's skill to search for a Bahr/Promises Aermo. So his field would be three 19k attackers. This means Ren would need to guard with 30k total not counting triggers. His only means of guarding were given, Mac Lir + cih and Blaster Dark, meaning he couldn't block one of the RG swings. Now, he was at four damage, so Kai would need a crit to win the game, but this still proves that Kai could've played out of a situation like that. [/quote] I was thinking this the whole time. KAI WHY YOU LOSE ON PURPOSE!? However, both times Kai has lost was due to misplaying. He could've intercepted another unit against both, Aichi and Ren. Other clans better get Crossride units or something to get the gap close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1328991714' post='5810913'] I was thinking this the whole time. KAI WHY YOU LOSE ON PURPOSE!? [/quote] A wizard did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1328991714' post='5810913'] I was thinking this the whole time. KAI WHY YOU LOSE ON PURPOSE!? However, both times Kai has lost was due to misplaying. He could've intercepted another unit against both, Aichi and Ren. Other clans better get Crossride units or something to get the gap close. [/quote] Murakumo's Mandala lord and Neo nectar's maiden of trailing blossoms are closest to crossride without the crossriding part (ditch another copy to get X ability). anyways its not Kai's fault the writers made him misplay >.> he has no control over it D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 [quote name='DeathSDelano' timestamp='1329078276' post='5812875'] Murakumo's Mandala lord and Neo nectar's maiden of trailing blossoms are closest to crossride without the crossriding part (ditch another copy to get X ability). [/quote] Fang of Light was Crossrider before it was cool, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 New episode gave a decent build up. Also, Tetsu made me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Kamui has played during this tournament even if he dropped the last one. He played in the semis. He won that game. Why the hell does nobody know who he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Because Kai, being the second best cardfighter in the world overshadowed him completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Nah, it was probably Aichi that caused it, because of how well he was doing with his Shadow Paladins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - ä¿¡ä»°' timestamp='1329541270' post='5824009'] Because Kai, being the second best cardfighter in the world overshadowed him completely [/quote] Don't say that. No man can stand up to Plot no Jutsu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Is it just me, or are Persona Blasts mind-bogglingly horrible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 The End is amazing. Double Twin Drive... PBO sucks because you have to invest before they get a chance to guard though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 You don't Guard against them, you lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 But the odds are low that you will be [i]able[/i] to Persona Blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 As the game drags on, the chance approaches 100% and your opponent's guards approach 0% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Dr. Cakey Suzumiya' timestamp='1329661215' post='5826657'] But the odds are low that you will be [i]able[/i] to Persona Blast. [/quote] That's why they have searchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 But the searchers are pretty bad, aren't they? w/e I haven't played Vanguard at all, I think of things in terms of YGO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 [quote name='Dr. Cakey Suzumiya' timestamp='1329881221' post='5832862'] But the searchers are pretty bad, aren't they? w/e I haven't played Vanguard at all, I think of things in terms of YGO. [/quote] all you need is one of the searchers and your are good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 New episode was good for having the least build up. Emi and Kamui are one of the few intended pairs that I actually find cute. ~ However, next episode is what I'm looking forward to the most. (even if we know how it'll end) GO OTTs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Next episode will be amazing but I'm really looking forward to Aichi vs. Ren because I want to see whether Aichi will mix his RPs and SPs. I mean, it's really likely that the card in the white orb was Majesty, but it would be a bit odd to have a mix vs. Shadow Palys, so I'm still on the fence about whether it'll be done or not. Since Aichi is changing decks next season, this would be the only chance for it to be show a mix Blaster deck, but that also means that they might not deem it worth passing up the good vs evil theme just to show a deck that will never see the light of day again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 This may just be my AP English class kicking in, but the characters really fit their decks. If you look at it: Kai uses Kagero, a mostly static deck with only the strategy of overpowering the opponent. With such a fixed deck (The End notwitstanding), they can only be properly used by a master who [i]really[/i] knows the game. Kamui uses Nova Grapplers, a deck that focuses on re-standing units. He always acts tough by standing up to his opponents no matter the odds, but in the end (as with Ashura Kaiser) he won't stand by himself. Misaki, as we've just seen, has a fantastic memory, Oracle Think Tanks and their reverse stacking truely shine if you can commit to remembering everything you're shown - this is practically impossible for anyone but Misaki. Aichi, the hero, uses Royal Paladins. The antithesis to Kagero, they gain a lot of new strength from each of their new allies that are released. Aichi has been gaining strength with each fight along with his Paladins *cough*not like Yugi*cough* and he cares deeply about them as he does his friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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