Duck_Sauce Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 These guys, in my opinon, have amazing musical talent. Set the World on Fire is my favorite song, by far. Opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Half Vamp Riku Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Oh my god, I can not express in words how much I despise these glam-metal posers. The guitarists are okay but there vocalist, Andy Sixx has a monotone voice:meaning he can only sing in one octave. Not that I'm into extremlely talented singers, hes just bland. And I hate the fact that they practically copied "Unholy Confessions" by Avenged Sevenfold(one of my favorite bands) in that shitty song known as "Pens and Knives". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Horrible band. Claims they're "rock 'n' roll," but they're actually just mallcore s***. Oh mallcore. You suck. My response to anyone who likes bands like this, Asking Alexandria, Escape the Fate, etc: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG2KMkQLZmI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG2KMkQLZmI[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Half Vamp Riku Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Whoa bro not all METALcore is bad, Just a couple of bands, if you take the time to actually get past the usual stereotypes than a lot of these bands are better than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 [quote name='I'm Riku you mad bro?' timestamp='1318291665' post='5573228'] Whoa bro not all METALcore is bad, Just a couple of bands, if you take the time to actually get past the usual stereotypes than a lot of these bands are better than you think. [/quote] Not metalcore. Mallcore. Metalcore is half decent, with bands such as As I Lay Dying and stuff. Mallcore is crappy unoriginal bands that is listened to by 14-15 year old kids who have no real substance. Bands include= Asking Alexandria, Attack Attack!, Design the Skyline, etc. I know what I'm talking about, man. You don't need to correct me in music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrekstasy Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 My favourite band! I've seen them live 69 times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Half Vamp Riku Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Actually you don't know your music. Because Asking Alexandria and Attack attack! are excellent bands. You to take the time to listen to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Not really into this band at all. Mainly because I don't like songs like 'Fallen Angels'. Guitarists aren't too bad and I have nothing against their look or genre, just not that into them. Maybe I could take time to listen to their other songs but... nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 [quote name='I'm Riku you mad bro?' timestamp='1318356293' post='5574201'] Actually you don't know your music. Because Asking Alexandria and Attack attack! are excellent bands. You to take the time to listen to them. [/quote] So you assume I've never listened? Believe me, I've owned albums from them in the past, and I had a moderate enjoyment of them, but then I found the joy that is Melodic Death Metal, Technical Death Metal, Prog Rock, Goregrind, Grindcore, Powerviolence, Screamo (If you DARE label any old scream vocal band as screamo, you suck. Screamo is a hardcore punk genre derived from emo [NOT My Chemical Romance or whatever. Algernon Cadwallader, Snowing, etc]), etc. My opinion is that Attack Attack! and Asking Alexandria are unoriginal, uncreative, and just plain lame. My opinion differs from yours, so yeah, I guess I know nothing, huh? Give Goregrind a listen. You might just learn something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Half Vamp Riku Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Yes because your opinion is in fact wrong. If you want real music. Check out early Avenged Sevenfold. There first two albums are light years ahead of there time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 [quote name='I'm Riku you mad bro?' timestamp='1318359826' post='5574300'] Yes because your opinion is in fact wrong. [/quote] I LOVE this. My opinion is wrong. Oh, it's all clear now! I've heard Avenged Sevenfold. Not my least favorite band, but you know what I mean. Listen, I could give less than a f*** if you like bands like the ones previously mentioned. Really. I may try and show you music that I find better, but that's it. BUT, to say a person's opinion is "IN FACT" wrong, both makes you look like you have no further argument and like you're getting defensive. An opinion can't be wrong. Just chill, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Half Vamp Riku Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 You may have heard Avenged Sevenfold, but have you heard EARLY avenged sevenfold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 [quote name='John A. Zoidberg' timestamp='1318292625' post='5573263'] Not metalcore. Mallcore. Metalcore is half decent, with bands such as As I Lay Dying and stuff. Mallcore is crappy unoriginal bands that is listened to by 14-15 year old kids who have no real substance. [b]Bands include= Asking Alexandria, Attack Attack!, Design the Skyline, etc.[/b] I know what I'm talking about, man. You don't need to correct me in music. [/quote] You realise Asking Alexandria's metalcore, I assume. But Attack Attack! are Post-Hardcore... just sayin'. Nothing wrong with influences from metal, punk and pop anyway. People like you give a bad name to metalheads in general, you immediately disregard entire genres due to a minority of bands that you claim sound the same. Whereas someone like myself don't judge a band off of how they sound so similar to eachother, when they don't. Although I understand this may be because I now have a trained ear to them, but I cannot see how you manage to say that Asking Alexandria, Attack Attack! and Escape the Fate sound similar. Meh, I'm tired, not sure if that made the sense I wanted it to, but whatever, needs more not flaming "core" genres at every moment (Even if Post-Hardcore and metalcore are basically the only "good" ones). OT: Band is horrible. Andy Sixx can't even break an octave, and their songs sound the exact same. They have a couple of decent songs but they're boring to listen to, and monotonous, and not pulled off well. They sing about being an individual yet they're blatant products of the industry. That's basically the dictionary definition of hypocrite. I also fail to see why they chose the image they did... it just seems over the top to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 [quote name='Tristan T. Taylor' timestamp='1318368935' post='5574570'] You realise Asking Alexandria's metalcore, I assume. But Attack Attack! are Post-Hardcore... just sayin'. Nothing wrong with influences from metal, punk and pop anyway. People like you give a bad name to metalheads in general, you immediately disregard entire genres due to a minority of bands that you claim sound the same. Whereas someone like myself don't judge a band off of how they sound so similar to eachother, when they don't. Although I understand this may be because I now have a trained ear to them, but I cannot see how you manage to say that Asking Alexandria, Attack Attack! and Escape the Fate sound similar. Meh, I'm tired, not sure if that made the sense I wanted it to, but whatever, needs more not flaming "core" genres at every moment (Even if Post-Hardcore and metalcore are basically the only "good" ones). [/quote] You seem to have misunderstood me. I never said they sound similar, I said they are unoriginal. That means they sound like other bands that have already done what they did. Now, that's not my problem with them it all. And yeah, there's nothing wrong with influence it all. My problem is I don't like the sound. There's nothing incredibly interesting about them (though it may just be the overflow of mathcore in my youtube search lately), that I can find cool enough to want to spend my time listening to them. And I have absolutely no problem with metalcore, or even post-hardcore (the latter by a far, far stretch). I would moreso consider Attack Attack! pop-metal, given their synthy nature and overly autotuned voices when singing. By a stretch, they're even Deathcore, but they don't do it as good as bands like The Acacia Strain. Anyway, my point is, I'm not dismissing the entire genres, I'm dismissing these bands. There are always going to be bands in genres that you don't love. I find bands like Black Veil Brides, Attack Attack!, Asking Alexandria, Escape the Fate, etc. all (though I never said they are similar) watered down and unoriginal. I don't know. It might be since I'm a guitarist and a vocalist, it might be that I've been in a mathcore band before, it might even be that I haven't listened to these bands in awhile. But don't assume that I haven't listened to these bands or that I'm dismissing entire genres. It is my opinion that these bands aren't good. If neither of you can respect opinions, then I'm afraid there's not much more you can say. Oh, by the way, I apologize for "giving you a bad name," oh wise metal lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 [quote name='John A. Zoidberg' timestamp='1318377052' post='5574798'] You seem to have misunderstood me. I never said they sound similar, I said they are unoriginal. That means they sound like other bands that have already done what they did. Now, that's not my problem with them it all. And yeah, there's nothing wrong with influence it all. My problem is I don't like the sound. There's nothing incredibly interesting about them (though it may just be the overflow of mathcore in my youtube search lately), that I can find cool enough to want to spend my time listening to them. And I have absolutely no problem with metalcore, or even post-hardcore (the latter by a far, far stretch). I would moreso consider Attack Attack! pop-metal, given their synthy nature and overly autotuned voices when singing. By a stretch, they're even Deathcore, but they don't do it as good as bands like The Acacia Strain. Anyway, my point is, I'm not dismissing the entire genres, I'm dismissing these bands. There are always going to be bands in genres that you don't love. I find bands like Black Veil Brides, Attack Attack!, Asking Alexandria, Escape the Fate, etc. all (though I never said they are similar) watered down and unoriginal. I don't know. It might be since I'm a guitarist and a vocalist, it might be that I've been in a mathcore band before, it might even be that I haven't listened to these bands in awhile. But don't assume that I haven't listened to these bands or that I'm dismissing entire genres. It is my opinion that these bands aren't good. If neither of you can respect opinions, then I'm afraid there's not much more you can say. Oh, by the way, I apologize for "giving you a bad name," oh wise metal lord. [/quote] So a simple misinterpretation. That's all that was necessary for you to say, but thank you for clearing that up. I didn't intend to disrespect your opinion by any means, as I said I was tired when I typed it out so I may have gotten my point across incorrectly. Also, I'd have to really be a metalhead or something for that sarcasm of yours to work, since I'm really not a fan of metal at all for the most part. Looks like, if anything, you took unnecessary offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 [quote name='Tristan T. Taylor' timestamp='1318377505' post='5574816'] So a simple misinterpretation. That's all that was necessary for you to say, but thank you for clearing that up. I didn't intend to disrespect your opinion by any means, as I said I was tired when I typed it out so I may have gotten my point across incorrectly. Also, I'd have to really be a metalhead or something for that sarcasm of yours to work, since I'm really not a fan of metal at all for the most part. Looks like, if anything, you took unnecessary offense. [/quote] Any time a person uses the term "people like you" my brain just kinda forces offense, unless it's a playful, mocking manner. But yes, misinterpretation indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel. Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 [quote name='I'm Riku you mad bro?' timestamp='1318356293' post='5574201'] Actually you don't know your music. Because Asking Alexandria and Attack attack! are excellent bands. You to take the time to listen to them. [/quote] They're generic metalcore. Why the hell are we calling it mallcore? And not all metalcore is s***. Oh, Sleeper and August Burns Red in my opinion are some of the better metal bands around right now (who still produce material regularly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 [quote name='Rei IV' timestamp='1318713486' post='5581608'] They're generic metalcore. Why the hell are we calling it mallcore? And not all metalcore is s***. Oh, Sleeper and August Burns Red in my opinion are some of the better metal bands around right now (who still produce material regularly) [/quote] Psst. Attack Attack! are Post-Hardcore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 [quote name='Tristan T. Taylor' timestamp='1318713532' post='5581609'] Psst. Attack Attack! are Post-Hardcore. [/quote] Lolno. They're deathcore + pop (given autotuned voices and synth). Which I don't know what these two together equal, but it's not post-hardcore. Like, electronicore or something. 0_0 Since Attack Attack! uses the use of chuggy powerchords and slower drums (but heavy) drums, they fit the category of deathcore perfectly. There are way better deathcore bands out there though. o.o [quote name='Rei IV' timestamp='1318713486' post='5581608'] They're generic metalcore. Why the hell are we calling it mallcore? And not all metalcore is s***. Oh, Sleeper and August Burns Red in my opinion are some of the better metal bands around right now (who still produce material regularly) [/quote] Mallcore is just any band that a person finds isn't really wonderfully fitting with the metal genre. For example, to someone who listens to bands like The Black Dahlia Murder or something, bands like Asking Alexandria would be considered "mallcore." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｍｒ．Ｒｏｂｏｔ Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 [quote name='John A. Zoidberg' timestamp='1318713801' post='5581618'] Lolno. They're deathcore + pop (given autotuned voices and synth). Which I don't know what these two together equal, but it's not post-hardcore. Like, electronicore or something. 0_0 Since Attack Attack! uses the use of chuggy powerchords and slower drums (but heavy) drums, they fit the category of deathcore perfectly. There are way better deathcore bands out there though. o.o Mallcore is just any band that a person finds isn't really wonderfully fitting with the metal genre. For example, to someone who listens to bands like The Black Dahlia Murder or something, bands like Asking Alexandria would be considered "mallcore." [/quote] Mallcore is another term to describe generic scene bands, not only those belong to metalcore or post hardcore genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 [quote name='Phantom Stranger' timestamp='1318730206' post='5582244'] Mallcore is another term to describe generic scene bands, not only those belong to metalcore or post hardcore genre. [/quote] Basically, yeah. But the more simple definition is just a metal band hated by most open-minded metal fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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