Flame Dragon Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 [img]http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/cards/20398.jpg[/img] Now banned in modern. Really said since this makes my Elf deck run so smoothly. Guess it's a legacy deck now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Did they ban anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 [b]Announcement Date: September 20, 2011[/b] [b]Effective Date: October 1, 2011[/b] [b]Magic Online Effective Date: October 12, 2011[/b] [b]Modern[/b] Blazing Shoal is banned. Cloudpost is banned. Green Sun's Zenith is banned. Ponder is banned. Preordain is banned. Rite of Flame is banned. [b]Extended[/b] Jace, the Mind Sculptor is banned. Mental Misstep is banned. Ponder is banned. Preordain is banned. Stoneforge Mystic is banned. [b]Legacy[/b] Mental Misstep is banned. Vintage Fact or Fiction is no longer restricted. [b]Scars of Mirrodin Block Constructed, Standard[/b] No changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Ponder is banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 To be honest, I can kinda understand banning of GSZ [img]http://magiccards.info/scans/en/fut/174.jpg[/img] But Ponder and Preordain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 [quote name='Noel Vermillion' timestamp='1316628142' post='5530939'] To be honest, I can kinda understand banning of GSZ [img]http://magiccards.info/scans/en/fut/174.jpg[/img] But Ponder and Preordain... [/quote] See, I don't think it is that good with the Arbor. Really it's like playing any one drop mana accelerant. It's that it can do that, and be every other green card that you run at once that pushed it over the top. Ponder and Preordain give combo decks WAY to much fuel. Really, the level of dig they allow plays to have is just to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 I blame this one [img]http://magiccards.info/scans/en/fut/153.jpg[/img] Also Ponder and Preordain are banned Becuase Abusive Combo Decks where really abusive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 o.O Yeah, reason enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 [quote name='-Venser el Transeúnte-' timestamp='1316691103' post='5532544'] I blame this one [img]http://magiccards.info/scans/en/fut/153.jpg[/img] Also Ponder and Preordain are banned Becuase Abusive Combo Decks where really abusive [/quote] Again, banning him would have fixed that. I stand by the "the collective power of being every good green card in the deck at once" is what pushed GSZ over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 At least GSZ + Dryad Arbor is kind of a combo in the sense that it gets around the 1 land/turn limit, even though things like Llanowar Elves do the same thing already. GSZ into Tarmgoyf doesn't even have that; it's just a Tarmogoyf except more expensive - the fact that it reshuffles itself means it doesn't even count as a Sorcery in the Graveyard to give a +1/+1 boost if there were none there already. In general, GSZ --> any creature will just be that creature but costlier, and will thus be worse than that creature. It's obviously the be-anything-you-want-at-the-time factor that is the problem, not any one specific good creature it can grab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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