IceDorago Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 This most likely needs some serious work, considering this is the first deck I've made for this game. Grade 0 (18): 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/alabaster-owl"]Alabaster Owl[/url] [color=#ffff00][C][/color] 2 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/future-knight-llew"]Future Knight, Llew[/url] [color=#FFFF00][C][/color] 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/margal"]Margal[/url] [color=#b22222][D][/color] 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/yggdrasil-maiden-elaine"]Yggdrasil Maiden, Elaine[/url] [color=#00ff00][H][/color] 2 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/flogal"]Flogal[/url] [color=#0000ff][S][/color] 2 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/barcgal"]Barcgal[/url] Grade 1 (12): 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/flash-shield-isolde"]Flash Shield, Isolde[/url] 2 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/little-sage-marron"]Little Sage, Marron[/url] 3 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/pongal"]Pongal[/url] 3 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/young-pegasus-knight"]Young Pegasus Knight[/url] Grade 2 (11): 2 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/blaster-blade"]Blaster Blade[/url] 1 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/eagle-knight-of-the-skies"]Eagle Knight of the Skies[/url] 3 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/hi-dog-breeder-akane"]Hi-Dog Breeder, Akane[/url] 1 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/hi-dog-breeder-ceylan"]Hi-Dog Breeder Ceylan[/url] 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/knight-of-truth-gordon"]Knight of Truth Gordon[/url] Grade 3 (9): 1 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/gigantic-charger"]Gigantic Charger[/url] 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/king-of-knights-alfred"]King of Knights, Alfred[/url] 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/soul-saver-dragon"]Soul Saver Dragon[/url] Once again, probably terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 -Eagle Knight of the Sky -Gigantic Charger +pongal +blaster blade Also how is the 2nd barcgal working? (my preference is to only run 1 but thats just me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Ok, it's decent but could use a little work Let's start with help on the Rank 0s. First, you don't really need two Barcgal, as his ability only incredible at the beginning of the game, which you can do by just using Barcgal's Vanguard ability. Only 1 is needed. Second, opening with Flogal or Future Knights gives you a huge tactical edge over your opponent, and Stand is the best trigger type, so I don't see any reason to use anything less than 4 Flogals. Also, Llew is Alabaster Owl with an effect, so I wouldn't run Owl over Llew. This is just a suggestion, but looking at the deck, wouldn't it be wiser to run: 1 Barcgal 4 Flogal 4 Llew 4 Elaine 4 Alabastar Owl/Margal (Preferably Margal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='DeathSDelano' timestamp='1316317474' post='5522096'] -Eagle Knight of the Sky -Gigantic Charger +pongal +blaster blade Also how is the 2nd barcgal working? (my preference is to only run 1 but thats just me)[/quote] Yeah, this makes more sense, thinking about it. I don't know about the second Barcgal, when I made this, there wasn't a server up, so I haven't gotten the chance to playtest yet. I'm reducing to one Barcgal, though, cause there's not much point running double Barcgal. [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1316317736' post='5522117'] Ok, it's decent but could use a little work Let's start with help on the Rank 0s. First, you don't really need two Barcgal, as his ability only incredible at the beginning of the game, which you can do by just using Barcgal's Vanguard ability. Only 1 is needed. Second, opening with Flogal or Future Knights gives you a huge tactical edge over your opponent, and Stand is the best trigger type, so I don't see any reason to use anything less than 4 Flogals. Also, Llew is Alabaster Owl with an effect, so I wouldn't run Owl over Llew. This is just a suggestion, but looking at the deck, wouldn't it be wiser to run: 1 Barcgal 4 Flogal 4 Llew 4 Elaine 4 Alabastar Owl/Margal (Preferably Margal) [/quote] Yeah, this seems better, I'll make the edits in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='DeathSDelano' timestamp='1316317474' post='5522096']-Eagle Knight of the Sky -Gigantic Charger +pongal +blaster blade Also how is the 2nd barcgal working? (my preference is to only run 1 but thats just me)[/quote] Agreed on all parts except about Charger. Charger really isn't a bad tech for Paladins. I can see it being used, albeit not at anything more than 1. And since his deck change will leave him with one less card, due to having 1 less Grade 0, I'm not sure he has to dump Charger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1316319605' post='5522179'] Agreed on all parts except about Charger. Charger really isn't a bad tech for Paladins. I can see it being used, albeit not at anything more than 1. And since his deck change will leave him with one less card, due to having 1 less Grade 0, I'm not sure he has to dump Charger. [/quote] Charger isn't bad; it just he is not needed and alot of times he hits trigger that you would have got from twin drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='DeathSDelano' timestamp='1316321375' post='5522240'] Charger isn't bad; it just he is not needed and alot of times he hits trigger that you would have got from twin drive.[/quote] But statistically speaking, he would hit the monster in front of a trigger just as often as he would remove the trigger itself. He isn't needed, but he's fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1316319605' post='5522179'] Agreed on all parts except about Charger. Charger really isn't a bad tech for Paladins. I can see it being used, albeit not at anything more than 1. And since his deck change will leave him with one less card, due to having 1 less Grade 0, I'm not sure he has to dump Charger. [/quote] Oh right, those changes dropped my Grade 0's by one. I guess I'll go with Charger, then, as it gives you a free Paladin and it gives you another unit with Twin Drive. Edit: Wait wait wait. I was looking around and saw some stuff about Barcgal being banned from the starting Vanguard position as of 9/5 or do people not play by that on Byond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='IceDorago' timestamp='1316349133' post='5522663'] Oh right, those changes dropped my Grade 0's by one. I guess I'll go with Charger, then, as it gives you a free Paladin and it gives you another unit with Twin Drive. Edit: Wait wait wait. I was looking around and saw some stuff about Barcgal being banned from the starting Vanguard position as of 9/5 or do people not play by that on Byond? [/quote] what the heck are you talking about? what have been reading that says something about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 I read it on a blog, so I Googled it, and found a bunch of stuff saying that. Guess I have to go with Trumpeter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='IceDorago' timestamp='1316361064' post='5523028'] I read it on a blog, so I Googled it, and found a bunch of stuff saying that. Guess I have to go with Trumpeter? [/quote] NVM found it. it doesn't apply to oversea torunments. but applies to official toruneys. lol i don't play in tourneys to start with, or according to bushiroad also: [url="http://cf-vanguard.com/howto/fighters_rule/"]http://cf-vanguard.com/howto/fighters_rule/[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [url="http://bushiroad.fm/post/en/371/Question+Regarding+Cardfight+Vanguard+-+Barcgal.html"]http://bushiroad.fm/post/en/371/Question+Regarding+Cardfight+Vanguard+-+Barcgal.html[/url] It said something about it being okay overseas, but idk whether it'll be banned on Byond or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='IceDorago' timestamp='1316361959' post='5523073'] [url="http://bushiroad.fm/post/en/371/Question+Regarding+Cardfight+Vanguard+-+Barcgal.html"]http://bushiroad.fm/...+-+Barcgal.html[/url] It said something about it being okay overseas, but idk whether it'll be banned on Byond or not. [/quote] it just can't be used as Starting Vanguard from what i am reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Yeah, that's what I was talking about. But without that, it doesn't have that much use imo. Guess I'll have to go Trumpeter. If I'd known this yesterday, I would have just made Galahad Paladins from the start, cause I can go Durengal > Barcgal in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 They pretty much banned Barcgal? Why am I not surprised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Gonna go Guraimu > Barcgal cause I need a starter and I don't like Trumpeter. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='IceDorago' timestamp='1316361959' post='5523073'][url="http://bushiroad.fm/post/en/371/Question+Regarding+Cardfight+Vanguard+-+Barcgal.html"]http://bushiroad.fm/post/en/371/Question+Regarding+Cardfight+Vanguard+-+Barcgal.html[/url] It said something about it being okay overseas, but idk whether it'll be banned on Byond or not.[/quote] That stinks. I can see why they'd ban Barcgal, but that's still unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Deck is still okay, but no Barcgal takes away some plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 In that case, I don't really see the point in running Barcgal or Llew if the ablility to first turn Double ride is gone. I'd say drop the Barcgals and Llew and add back the Alabaster Owls So we have Grade 0 4 Flogal [Stand] 4 Elaine [Heal] 4 Alabastar Owl [Critical] 4 Margal [Draw] Though you can replace the Owl with whatever other trigger attracts your eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Alabaster's a Hi-Beast, so I'll just go with that, incase I end up drawing and calling it, I can boost with Ceylan if needed for some reason. Also, I was wondering, should I even run the Ceylan, or drop it for a fourth Akane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='IceDorago' timestamp='1316377956' post='5523861']Alabaster's a Hi-Beast, so I'll just go with that, incase I end up drawing and calling it, I can boost with Ceylan if needed for some reason. Also, I was wondering, should I even run the Ceylan, or drop it for a fourth Akane?[/quote] I might drop Ceylan for another Blaster Blade. Even though you don't have that epic combo anymore, he's still arguably the best Grade 2 Royal Paladin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1316378559' post='5523896'] I might drop Ceylan for another Blaster Blade. Even though you don't have that epic combo anymore, he's still arguably the best Grade 2 Royal Paladin. [/quote] Yeah, 4 BB would probably be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 What does the deck look like now that we've made the changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted September 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Grade 0 (17): 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/alabaster-owl"]Alabaster Owl[/url] [color=#FFFF00][C][/color] 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/margal"]Margal[/url] [color=#B22222][D][/color] 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/yggdrasil-maiden-elaine"]Yggdrasil Maiden, Elaine[/url] [color=#00FF00][H][/color] 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/flogal"]Flogal[/url] [color=#0000FF][S][/color] 1 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/guraimu"]Guraimu[/url] Grade 1 (13): 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/flash-shield-isolde"]Flash Shield, Isolde[/url] 2 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/little-sage-marron"]Little Sage, Marron[/url] 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/pongal"]Pongal[/url] 3 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/young-pegasus-knight"]Young Pegasus Knight[/url] Grade 2 (11): 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/blaster-blade"]Blaster Blade[/url] 3 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/hi-dog-breeder-akane"]Hi-Dog Breeder, Akane[/url] 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/knight-of-truth-gordon"]Knight of Truth Gordon[/url] Grade 3 (9): 1 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/gigantic-charger"]Gigantic Charger[/url] 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/king-of-knights-alfred"]King of Knights, Alfred[/url] 4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/soul-saver-dragon"]Soul Saver Dragon[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzogamori Ren Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 im surprised you dont play the grade 2 palamedes. it's pretty good for a grade 2 especially after grade 3s are up. heck even grade 3 palamedes is good because itself is a grade 3. but in that case, gigantic charger is still really good. i like the shadow paladin version better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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