.Nu-13 Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [center]Grimoire of the Dead [img]http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/images/smilies/mana4.gif[/img] Legendary Artifact [img]http://mtgsalvation.com/images/spoiler/innistrad-mythic.gif[/img] [img]http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/images/smilies/mana1.gif[/img], [img]http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/images/smilies/tap.gif[/img], Discard a card: Put a study counter on Grimoire of the Dead. [img]http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/images/smilies/tap.gif[/img], Remove three study counters from Grimoire of the Dead and sacrifice it: Put all creature cards in all graveyards onto the battlefield under your control. They are black Zombies in addition to their other colors and types. Liliana's -8 in Artifact form, hm. Discuss[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 O_0 That is insane. Like, really insane. Good god I want 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Can you believe MTGS is calling this a "useless piece of crap unplayable in any format"? Oh, wait, it's MTGS after all. But yeah, card is INSANE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Mill both players' deck tons. Win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='Noel Vermillion' timestamp='1316339610' post='5522517'] Can you believe MTGS is calling this a "useless piece of crap unplayable in any format"? Oh, wait, it's MTGS after all. But yeah, card is INSANE [/quote] That's because they are judging it in a competitive standpoint. There it won't make many waves. But yea, acting like this is setting you back when setting up your grave is a huge thing this format is still just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1316357542' post='5522873'] But yea, acting like this is setting you back when setting up your grave is a huge thing this format is still just stupid. [/quote] That's kinda my point :/ You won't be discarding anything important with this, rather spells with Flashback, Skaab Ruinator etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Discard 3 Eldrazi things. Win. The discard actually fuels the second effect so yah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='Cursed Reaction' timestamp='1316358004' post='5522894'] Discard 3 Eldrazi things. Win. The discard actually fuels the second effect so yah. [/quote] Sure, but it's very risky. Unless you have any backup, it will be stupid. You got 3 counters, bam, Shatter or something. You just lost 3 big creatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 True, but if you play a Blue version, you have a pretty good amount of counters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Yeah, Blue would be the best call for this, as you can also run Jace 3.0 etc. to mill both you and your opponent, and sit behind Mana Leaks and Negates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Problem is...it takes way too long and way too much setup to use this...(Even Proliferating this thing after first counter is up you'll hvae to check if Graveyard position is good enough to worth using this card...) Different was Liliana's Ultimate wich completes itself by +1ing each turn with Lily's discard effect. Good it is mythic coz...I seriously pissed of to pull this from packs...D: Oh but flavor is OMG...Necronomicon all the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [img]http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/isd/iceyu12sbr_en.jpg[/img] Drop Turn 3 Lily, use +1 Turn 4, drop this, +1 again, discard from this Turn 5, +1, discard Turn 6, -6, discard Granted you forced them to sack some creatures, finally sack this. ...yeah, terrible concept, I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='Noel Vermillion' timestamp='1316364044' post='5523164'] [img]http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/isd/iceyu12sbr_en.jpg[/img] Drop Turn 3 Lily, use +1 Turn 4, drop this, +1 again, discard from this Turn 5, +1, discard Turn 6, -6, discard Granted you forced them to sack some creatures, finally sack this. ...yeah, terrible concept, I know [/quote] Too many -1s granted you wanted to protect this somehow...your losing all your protection on the way...XD [s]On the other hand...IDK where did you see MTGS saying it is crap...I only saw 1 negative comment so far...XD[/s] Didn't read everything they starting to insult the cards at page 8 or so...XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='-Venser el Transeúnte-' timestamp='1316364326' post='5523175'] Too many -1s granted you wanted to protect this somehow...your losing all your protection on the way...XD [/quote] Hence why I said it's terrible concept xD [quote name='-Venser el Transeúnte-' timestamp='1316364326' post='5523175'] [s]On the other hand...IDK where did you see MTGS saying it is crap...I only saw 1 negative comment so far...XD[/s] Didn't read everything they starting to insult the cards at page 8 or so...XD [/quote] Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='-Venser el Transeúnte-' timestamp='1316363853' post='5523152'] Problem is...it takes way too long and way too much setup to use this...(Even Proliferating this thing after first counter is up you'll hvae to check if Graveyard position is good enough to worth using this card...) Different was Liliana's Ultimate wich completes itself by +1ing each turn with Lily's discard effect. Good it is mythic coz...I seriously pissed of to pull this from packs...D: Oh but flavor is OMG...Necronomicon all the way [/quote] Not really. Your opponent could just drop non-creatures, and with no built in way to protect her Lily dies easily. And even then what ever you discard would either be set up for this to bring back or flashback set up. And again, this is an insane card in commander. Like really, off the wall insane. Sure it is to slow for constructed, but in slower formats this rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 ....imagine if it used charge counters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1316378216' post='5523877'] Not really. Your opponent could just drop non-creatures, and with no built in way to protect her Lily dies easily. And even then what ever you discard would either be set up for this to bring back or flashback set up. [/quote] Starting at 5 Loyalty Counters Lily can stands its own pretty well...and if SHE do dies...then good my life points are still unharmed coz opponent wasted its attacks on her... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 [quote name='-Venser el Transeúnte-' timestamp='1316387516' post='5524439'] Starting at 5 Loyalty Counters Lily can stands its own pretty well...and if SHE do dies...then good my life points are still unharmed coz opponent wasted its attacks on her... [/quote] It still takes 3 turns to get out the Ultimate, and so long as she doesn't it it she isn't that great. That means you only need to send a few points of damage her way each turn and your good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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