Sweetie Belle Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 And this isn't Infernity Zero. [b]Monsters x14[/b] =================== Cyber Dragon Dandylion Effect Veiler Krebons (2) Kuribon (2) Marshmallon Morphing Jar Scrap Goblin Spirit Reaper (3) Time Wizard [b]Spells x8[/b] =================== Card Destruction Heavy Storm Gold Sarcophagus Monster Reincarnation MST (2) Scapegoat Swords of Revealing Light [b]Traps x18[/b] =================== Bottomless Trap Hole (2) Compulsory Evacuation Device Divine Wrath Gift Card (2) Gravity Bind Magic Drain Mirror Force Self-Destruct Button (3) Starlight Road Threatening Roar (3) Torrential Tribute Wall of Revealing Light [b]Extra Deck x15[/b] ==================== Stardust Dragon x3 Generic Synchros x12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 [img]http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/176/d/0/twilight_sparkle_angry_by_ivan_chan-d3k0igb.png[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 Deck needs more Crop Circles and/or Destruction of Destiny. If your only relying on Wall of Revealing Light as your key card to setting off Self-Destruct, then its going to be a little ridiculous, considering its@1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagami Hiiragi Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 edit: i lol'd when i read self-des's full effect ('or more') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetie Belle Posted August 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 [quote name='Luna♪' timestamp='1314421096' post='5471883'] can i ask why gift card? [/quote] +3000 to the opponent. Fuel for Self-Destruct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagami Hiiragi Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 [quote name='WinterKirby' timestamp='1314421179' post='5471888'] +3000 to the opponent. Fuel for Self-Destruct. [/quote] yeah nub moment. lol. im totally playing this tomorrow at our locals. ill give creds to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 I wonder what would ever bring Miror B. to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetie Belle Posted August 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1314421819' post='5471919'] I wonder what would ever bring Miror B. to say that. [/quote] [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/258425-granel-with-infinite-attack-oh-hell-yeah/page__view__findpost__p__5458029"]I have no idea.[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 You missed the sarcasm. And the best you can ever do with this deck is tie (and considering your build, that won't be happening often) Self Destruct Button is a bad card for bad players, much like yourslf. Good day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetie Belle Posted August 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1314422956' post='5471958'] You missed the sarcasm. And the best you can ever do with this deck is tie (and considering your build, that won't be happening often) [b]Because obviously original decks are bad.[/b] Self Destruct Button is a bad card for bad players, much like yourslf. [b]Because draws cause people to rage. Especially when they think they're winning by a lot.[/b] Good day! [b]1:52 AM.[/b] [/quote] And original decks are better. On DN this deck brings in A.S.S.ers and quitters, which in turn brings in free wins. =3 And some nerve to think I'm a bad player, just because I run this card. In a deck based around said card. And I run it for fun. Because it's always fun to see people's reactions to this card. And I've legitimately won...... [s]Forgot[/s] Remembered the Extra Deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 [quote name='WinterKirby' timestamp='1314424501' post='5471977'] And original decks are better. On DN this deck brings in A.S.S.ers and quitters, which in turn brings in free wins. =3 And some nerve to think I'm a bad player, just because I run this card. In a deck based around said card. And I run it for fun. Because it's always fun to see people's reactions to this card. And I've legitimately won...... [s]Forgot[/s] Remembered the Extra Deck[/quote] YOUR WIN CONDITION ISN'T A WIN CONDITION. Your win condition is a "lose by less" condition. Furthermore, Gold Sarc and Card Destruction are the only cards you can use to get to your Destruct Button. Other than that, you have to wait forever for every card in your deck. This is further accentuated by the fact that you only run duplicates of 8 of your cards. Good day!(time is 2:08) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetie Belle Posted August 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1314425139' post='5471989'] YOUR WIN CONDITION ISN'T A WIN CONDITION. [b]Using Synchros to beat the opponent's LP to zero isn't a win condition?[/b] Your win condition is a "lose by less" condition. Furthermore, Gold Sarc and Card Destruction are the only cards you can use to get to your Destruct Button. Other than that, you have to wait forever for every card in your deck. This is further accentuated by the fact that you only run duplicates of 8 of your cards. [b]Because obviously I can't stall.[/b] Good day!(time is 2:08) [b]AM.[/b] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 Wait! Synchro Summon beatdown was your win condition! So what your telling me is that the Gift Card, Self Destruct Button, Wall of Revealing Light, and Time wizard all went against the win condition? What's wrong with your head? If beatdown is the strategy, don't run cards that undo your strategy. How hard is that to understand? I thought this was terribad stall for self destruct, but this is even worse! You're running a card your win condition tells you should never be able to go off. And if you're running Synchro Beatdown, stall cards don't help that either! Your not just the run-of the-mill scrub. Your a Super Scrub! This is why Miror B. called you a scrub. You actually thought this helped your deck? That takes a whole new level of dumb. Yadda, yadda, yadda, 2:34 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 Deck is great. I'd have no problem to using this on my "watch me" account. (! ! ! wiithepeople) The main problem is that it needs to be consistent, and it doesn't look too consistent to be honest. If only DN put in Side Decks so I can set up My Tempest side deck! Oh btw, it's 2:52 AM.[quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1314420151' post='5471846'] [img]http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/176/d/0/twilight_sparkle_angry_by_ivan_chan-d3k0igb.png[/img] [/quote] You are the Weakest Link. Goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetie Belle Posted August 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1314426910' post='5472005'] Wait! Synchro Summon beatdown was your win condition! So what your telling me is that the Gift Card, Self Destruct Button, Wall of Revealing Light, and Time wizard all went against the win condition? What's wrong with your head? If beatdown is the strategy, don't run cards that undo your strategy. How hard is that to understand? I thought this was terribad stall for self destruct, but this is even worse! You're running a card your win condition tells you should never be able to go off. And if you're running Synchro Beatdown, stall cards don't help that either! Your not just the run-of the-mill scrub. Your a Super Scrub! This is why Miror B. called you a scrub. You actually thought this helped your deck? That takes a whole new level of dumb. Yadda, yadda, yadda, 2:34 AM [/quote] Win once, draw for the remaining 40 minutes. Because you obviously can't just critique the deck instead of attacking me. And this is a self-destruct button deck. I win if needed, but then I tie for the remainder of the 40 minutes. Because SDB Turbo is unoriginal and boring. I can still go up against Sams and every other competitive deck and Draw. Not every deck is based on winning. Just because I have an alternative win condition doesn't mean anything. This deck is designed to stall into SDB, and draw. No win condition is required; I have Synchros because I have Tuners. I have used Synchros to win by attacking, but that's the win. Not the win condition. Just how I can win. This deck has no intention of winning. And according to Konami's Tournament policies, the winner of a Match is the one who has more wins. So win once, draw the rest, and that's the game. And still AM. Not day yet. Still early morning. Very early morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 [quote name='WinterKirby' timestamp='1314428473' post='5472025'] Win once, draw for the remaining 40 minutes. Because you obviously can't just critique the deck instead of attacking me. And this is a self-destruct button deck. I win if needed, but then I tie for the remainder of the 40 minutes. Because SDB Turbo is unoriginal and boring. I can still go up against Sams and every other competitive deck and Draw. Not every deck is based on winning. Just because I have an alternative win condition doesn't mean anything. This deck is designed to stall into SDB, and draw. No win condition is required; I have Synchros because I have Tuners. I have used Synchros to win by attacking, but that's the win. Not the win condition. Just how I can win. This deck has no intention of winning. And according to Konami's Tournament policies, the winner of a Match is the one who has more wins. So win once, draw the rest, and that's the game. And still AM. Not day yet. Still early morning. Very early morning.[/quote] Here's my criticism, though you won't listen anyway. You said you need to win the first match before SDB stall becomes a usable strategy. Therefore, it makes more sense to Side Deck the cards for the SDB deck, while using good cards to win the first match. If you don't win the first match, then you don't sub back in the SBD stall. If you do, you can add your stall back. That's what we call [i]common sense[/i]. Grow some. Next for your attratious Synchro line up. -1 Marshmallon(Stall does not help synchro-ability, burn detracts from SDB, don't run) -2 Kuribon(Run in side with SDB) -3 Scrap Goblin(Not only is it stall, it's not even good stall don't run) -1 Spirit Reaper(only need 2 for stall or super summon) -1 Time Wizard(Oh look, a luck card. I thought for a second the deck wasn't inconsistent enough, don't run) -1 Card Destruction(Fun with decreasing your own advantage) -1 Monster Reincarnation(See above) -1 Gold Sarc(VERY slow search, run in side, if at all) -1 Magic Drain(Situational Card) -1 Divine Wrath(Another hand depletion card) -2 Gift Card(Run in side with SDB) -1 Wall of Revealing Light(see above) -3 Self Destruct button(In Side Deck) +1 Effect Veiler(Useful Card, helps against tough decks) +1 Cyber Dragon(For Higher Level synchro monsters) +1 Sangan(Serches for most of your cards) +1 Psychic Commander(For card later on) +2 Quilbolt Hedgehog(Good for Synchro) +2 Junk Synchron(Special summons nearly every monster) +3 Upstart Goblin(Why weren't you running this earlier?) +1 Dark Hole(Can help out of binds) +1 Book of Moon(It's like a stall card, but can be used offensively) +1 Pot Of Avarice(Good card, generates hand advantage) +1 Emergency Teleport(Gets you your tuner) +1 Solemn Judgment(Again, something [i]good[/i] that worked with SDB) +2 Seven Tools of the Bandit(Solemn and Road is only other negation) +1 Starlight Road(Since you run 3 Stardust anyway) Total after changes: 40 cards See. This is not the same generic crap rampant in the meta. Yet I build it in a way that I don't ruin my hand advantage, I can make big plays, and I don't have to rely on stall, and I don't run cards when they aren't useful. I have acces to the entire SDB set in my Side Deck, plus I run cards good for [i]both[/i] decks. This is how you should have approached the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetie Belle Posted August 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 Now was that so hard? [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1314431907' post='5472058'] -1 Marshmallon(Stall does not help synchro-ability, burn detracts from SDB, don't run) -2 Kuribon(Run in side with SDB) -3 Scrap Goblin(Not only is it stall, it's not even good stall don't run) [b]0.o.... The current build only has 1 Scrap Goblin....[/b] -1 Spirit Reaper(only need 2 for stall or super summon) -1 Time Wizard(Oh look, a luck card. I thought for a second the deck wasn't inconsistent enough, don't run) [b]Time Wizard has a self-damage effect. You get to either blow up all the opponent's monsters or lose yours and take damage equal to half the ATK of your monsters, fueling SDB.[/b] -1 Card Destruction(Fun with decreasing your own advantage) -1 Monster Reincarnation(See above) -1 Gold Sarc(VERY slow search, run in side, if at all) -1 Magic Drain(Situational Card) -1 Divine Wrath(Another hand depletion card) -2 Gift Card(Run in side with SDB) -1 Wall of Revealing Light(see above) -3 Self Destruct button(In Side Deck) +1 Effect Veiler(Useful Card, helps against tough decks) +1 Cyber Dragon(For Higher Level synchro monsters) +1 Sangan(Serches for most of your cards) +1 Psychic Commander(For card later on) +2 Quilbolt Hedgehog(Good for Synchro) +2 Junk Synchron(Special summons nearly every monster) +3 Upstart Goblin(Why weren't you running this earlier?) [b].................................*facepalm*[/b] +1 Dark Hole(Can help out of binds) +1 Book of Moon(It's like a stall card, but can be used offensively) +1 Pot Of Avarice(Good card, generates hand advantage) +1 Emergency Teleport(Gets you your tuner) +1 Solemn Judgment(Again, something [i]good[/i] that worked with SDB) +2 Seven Tools of the Bandit(Solemn and Road is only other negation) +1 Starlight Road(Since you run 3 Stardust anyway) [/quote] Once I can get back onto DN without my internet dropping (probably after the hurricane passes through), I'll implement it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Six Samurai - Shi En Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 SDB will just be negated, and then what do you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 That was a mistype on Goblin. And Time Wizard's self damage effect destroys your Spirit Reapers and such, thus ruining your stall. Also 4:43 PM, so Good Day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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