shelds9 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='THE GOD OF OSIRIS' timestamp='1313561498' post='5449781'] I dislike the idea of a 3-0 list. [/quote] As do I.[quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1313535620' post='5448677'] Rotation does exactly what it says. It ROTATES. Meaning you won't be able to play Scraps 1 format, but they'll come back in a later format. Though I doubt yugioh would be able to go to rotation now. [/quote] It won't, because YGO doesn't nearly come up with enough cards fast enough to manage a Rotational Format. MTG comes up with 2 Packs to YGO's 1 and it has 3x the cards in it. Yu-Gi-Oh! won't get a Rotational Format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='shelds9' timestamp='1313561880' post='5449789'] It won't, because YGO doesn't nearly come up with enough cards fast enough to manage a Rotational Format. MTG comes up with 2 Packs to YGO's 1 and it has 3x the cards in it. [/quote] There's also the whole archetype thing that makes rotation a little hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 This thread has gone so off-topic it's ridiculous. Can't say I'm surprised though. And Crab is here?! o_o @Crab: Your quote I have in the OP is old, but still full of information. While some parts of it are outdated, it does a great job of explaining the basis of a 3-0 list. Oh, and is Atem around anymore? He'd obviously be a great person to have in this discussion.[quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1313521279' post='5447973'] It's usually a "Combo" is either bad for the game or not. [/quote] I was just really trying to drive the point that banworthy cards aren't good for the game at 1 or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Atem wouldn't be on a forum like YCM or Pojo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='THE GOD OF OSIRIS' timestamp='1313600998' post='5450627'] Atem wouldn't be on a forum like YCM or Pojo [/quote] Though he did post on GameFAQs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Updated OP with a 3-0 list. If there's anything I forgot / misplaced feel free to let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Why the f*** is the Fool on the banned section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1313602841' post='5450707'] Why the f*** is the Fool on the banned section? [/quote] Because Stall is bad for the game. Wouldn't you have more fun playing a game where you don't watch your opponent play tons of stall cards and you just wait to draw your M/S/T hate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 I'd rather have Mars make the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='arkel' timestamp='1313602975' post='5450715'] Because Stall is bad for the game. Wouldn't you have more fun playing a game where you watch your opponent play tons of stall cards and you just wait to draw your M/S/T hate? [/quote] But the fool is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1313603079' post='5450721'] But the fool is terrible. [/quote] In the current format it is. But in the 3-0 format it's a whole lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='arkel' timestamp='1313603191' post='5450729'] In the current format it is. But in the 3-0 format it's a whole lot better.[/quote] Because 3-0 formats care a lot less about card advantage, and just straight forward gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote]Atem wouldn't be on a forum like YCM or Pojo[/quote] He has a pojo account and uses it quite often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 The banlist in the OP looks like it'd make for such a slow format... Also, the f*** is Raging Mad Plants doing banned on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='Tristan T. Taylor' timestamp='1313607422' post='5450863'] Also, the f*** is Raging Mad Plants doing banned on it? [/quote] Raging Mad Plants is only used to OTK. Any card whose sole purpose is to FTK or OTK deserves to be banned. It's a card that could easily give a net ATK increase of 4500. Really having 5 plants in the grave and and 3 on the field shouldn't be a hard thing at all for a Plant deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Its sole purpose may be to OTK, but it's so bad it would be better to use Axe of Despair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Lets see... According to the OP's list: Scrap Chimera x3 Scrap Beast x3 Scrap Golem x2 Scrap Goblin x3 Summoner Monk x3 Card Trooper x3 Dandylion x3 Scapegoat x3 Scrapyard x3 Avarice x2 Mystical Space Typhoon x3 Scrapstorm x3 Foolish Burial x3 Reckless Greed x3 Red Dragon Archfiend x3 Dark End Dragon x3 Scrap Twin Dragon x2 Scrap Archfiend x3 Naturia Beast x2 Naturia Barkion x2 Deck looks hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1313612777' post='5451145'] Lets see... According to the OP's list: [decklist] [/quote] Card Trooper is at 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='arkel' timestamp='1313613395' post='5451187'] Card Trooper is at 2.[/quote] Could have sworn I saw it@3 on your list. In that case: -1 Card Trooper +1 Torrential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Why is Future Fusion [b]and[/b] FGD banned? You really think Dragon's Mirror is gonna be that much of a problem? On that note, if you think it's super duper easy to get 5 Dragons in the grave, why is Pot of Avarice unlimited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 >triple lonefire, triple Dandy, triple Librarian, Triple Formula, 0 Spore and 0 Glow-Up ...Could someone explain this to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='Nightmare Zarkus' timestamp='1313616030' post='5451304'] >triple lonefire, triple Dandy, triple Librarian, Triple Formula, 0 Spore and 0 Glow-Up ...Could someone explain this to me [/quote] I'm going to wager that OP does not actually play any YGOz anymore, and doesn't know what current decks act like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 [quote name='Nightmare Zarkus' timestamp='1313616030' post='5451304'] >triple Lonefire, triple Dandy, triple Librarian, Triple Formula, 0 Spore and 0 Glow-Up[/quote] He did say that the list in the OP was just simply "changes" to that September list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 [quote name='Nightmare Zarkus' timestamp='1313616030' post='5451304'] >triple lonefire, triple Dandy, triple Librarian, Triple Formula, 0 Spore and 0 Glow-Up ...Could someone explain this to me [/quote] Lonefire and Librarian all should be at 0 on a good list. Lonefire is very reusable and normal summing 2800 beat sticks doesn't seem good for the game. Librarian promotes overextending and exists just to create draw engines. Not sure how Dandy works with XYZ's but something tell me he could easily be moved to 0 on a good list. Formula in total gives 3 draws and just gets used for another synchro anyway don't see much problem with it. As for Spore, it's a free tuner for plants. Not everyone will view that as a problem, but some do. Glow-Up however is just a free tuner and free is never something you really want. Might I sugest adding Naturia Beast on the ground of how easily it looks out spells and Superancient Deepsea King Coelancanth for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 [quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1313634804' post='5451870'] Not sure how Dandy works with XYZ's[/quote] Tokens can't be used. And everyone pretty much prefers Tourguide as it also grabs Sangan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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