wiithepeople Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100517141533/yugioh/images/1/1c/MorphtronicVacuumenTSHD-EN-C-1E.png[/img] It's Defense effect is all that matters, and it's amazing at capturing JDs and DADs like Pokémon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 The problem is getting it into DEF, which means it's just fodder if you draw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Use with Scrubbed Raid for lulzy control, alongside Plasma and Relinquished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Yeah, it's not very fast... But stealing monsters is always cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted August 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 [quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1313355705' post='5442787'] The problem is getting it into DEF, which means it's just fodder if you draw it. [/quote] Well I figure with Foolish (hopefully) at 2, you can just dump it then SS with Junk Box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 You could run crappy Morph support and switch it to defense easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted August 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1313355882' post='5442801'] You could run crappy Morph support and switch it to defense easily. [/quote] But crappy Morph support is crappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 You're running Vacuumen. What do you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted August 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1313356008' post='5442814'] You're running Vacuumen. What do you expect? [/quote] I expect to dump it or discard it. PWWB maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Actually, Machine Duplication sounds funny. With Scrubbed Raid and some sort of protection card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted August 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1313356431' post='5442840'] Actually, Machine Duplication sounds funny. With Scrubbed Raid and some sort of protection card. [/quote] VACUUM DUUP SCUUP ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 The only problem is that Vacuumen can only absorb Attack Position monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Once per Turn for 500 Damage? lol Lame Burn The DEF Effect. is quite nice and is a Mini Plasma. [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100722080021/yugioh/images/thumb/9/94/ButterflyDagger-ElmaDCR-EN-SR-UE.jpg/300px-ButterflyDagger-ElmaDCR-EN-SR-UE.jpg[/img] Imagine if it wasn't once per Turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 [quote name='J-Max' timestamp='1313356702' post='5442866'] Once per Turn for 500 Damage? lol Lame Burn The DEF Effect. is quite nice and is a Mini Plasma. [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100722080021/yugioh/images/thumb/9/94/ButterflyDagger-ElmaDCR-EN-SR-UE.jpg/300px-ButterflyDagger-ElmaDCR-EN-SR-UE.jpg[/img] Imagine if it wasn't once per Turn [/quote] Vacuumen doesn't "destroy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted August 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1313356664' post='5442859'] The only problem is that Vacuumen can only absorb Attack Position monsters. [/quote] But don't you [b]always[/b] see ace monsters in Attack? It may be a problem, but it's not a HUGE problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Yes, you do. But that means the strategy is a one-time thing, as opposed to Relinquished which can do it repeatedly with no problem. The entire strategy is countered simply by placing monsters in Def until you're ready to rip the Vacuumen combo apart, which considering they have no ATK/DEF or protection (again, unlike Relinquished), this wouldn't take long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted August 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1313356904' post='5442881'] Yes, you do. But that means the strategy is a one-time thing, as opposed to Relinquished which can do it repeatedly with no problem. The entire strategy is countered simply by placing monsters in Def until you're ready to rip the Vacuumen combo apart, which considering they have no ATK/DEF or protection (again, unlike Relinquished), this wouldn't take long. [/quote] That's true, but after using Dupe on Vacuumen and absorbing up to 2 Attack monsters your opponent has, you can always just overlay into Mira or something, which iirc is something no sane person would do to their Relinquished if their lives depended on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Ah yes, I completely forgot about Xyz Summoning afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Good in theory but not practice. If you get out 3 via Dupe, you would want your opponent to have extended by a bit. And if they didn't OTK right then, they're stupid by a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 [quote name='Cursed Reaction' timestamp='1313357844' post='5442938'] Good in theory but not practice. If you get out 3 via Dupe, you would want your opponent to have extended by a bit. And if they didn't OTK right then, they're stupid by a lot. [/quote] Battle Fader/Swift Scarecrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 You don't run Fader or Scarecrow in Morphs :/ Gorz at the most but chances of that is about 1/80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 [quote name='Cursed Reaction' timestamp='1313358465' post='5442967'] You don't run Fader or Scarecrow in Morphs :/ Gorz at the most but chances of that is about 1/80. [/quote] I lol'd. My current build runs both Fader and Gorz, and I once sided Scarecrow. They all work well. You sorta need 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 [quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1313358741' post='5442982'] I lol'd. My current build runs both Fader and Gorz, and I once sided Scarecrow. They all work well. You sorta need 'em. [/quote] [img]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii207/Rock_Angel_666/Old-Man-1.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 "Upgrade to pro today! Bandwith exceeded." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Say wha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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