Astro Dude Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Why must Uotapo drawing something like this so exciting? Why must we be tempted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sleepy Posted June 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 [spoiler=Cobax] Why must Uotapo drawing something like this so exciting? [/spoiler] I saw that one the other day on DeviantArt. Beautiful isn't it? For once, I'm actually looking forward to EG3, and because Sunset Shimmer ended up growing on me during the second one. Because he/she can? Also has anyone else seen Tommy Oliver's, a Brony analytic, leave video? [spoiler=I have *rises hand*] I sort of get him but not completely. He's right about the continuity issues. Spike going during the season's pilot would have made it a clone of the Wonder Ponies episode, and Alicorn magic shouldn't be that easy to take out (that part still bothers me) since up until now only other alicorns, Discord, and Tirek after massive upgrades were able to do so. Or how not knowing what their curie mark is for after getting it for years... that's not how I thought cutie marks worked. I wouldn't stop watching the show for that because there's also plenty of good to talk about for the season so far, but I can get around his stopping on the pony part.... On the other hand, he DID explode and over-react, and although I still watch him on YouTube, I have no idea what he's looking for. Then in his "what's next?" video he also did say that he will not be following any one show to prevent inspiration from going away, and that he'll even drop a lot of activity on his main channel because he wants to do other things like his Revel Pixels channel. I think this could potentially eradicate more of his patreons.. People are understanding on him to a degree but the Patreon thing is kind of a job as well so he can't just say he'll completely change everything (reviews in general, not just the pony ones) he's been known for all of a sudden and expect no lows. Inspiration is important but I don't buy that he disliked reviewing or disregarded it as something as little as he implied. It takes being invested to do it how he did it... Personally, there's using the excuse of the quality of the show dropping to stop pony videos, but the issue is not on the MLP show if he himself said he can't continue making any one show into regular reviews because it'd happen the same as with MLP reviews. Huh... I sort of get it, but also he's not fit to be doing reviews anymore. I'll miss his content, but I'll predict more of his patreons dropping out and him having to quit to get a full time job out there somewhere. He did say he wasn't getting as much money as he initially thought even before the MLP hit he took, so there's that. I'm not saying I want him to fail in life either... I'll just see how that turns out. [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMNvKWMg18&feature=youtu.be [spoiler=spoiler] Oh my god. I don't think I've ever seen a MLP episode with so much juice for fanart material to extract, though some little things were deliberate baits for it. All in all, so many things being referenced. Lyra sitting down like a human Lyra x BonBon Their spies fan comic from DeviantArt Gummy as a reference to the petrified horse of Bravest Warriors Doctor Whooves + Science Derpy being derpy (personality and job) Doctor Whooves x Derpy The flower girls from that season 1 episode Berry Punch has a barrel of punch Little nod to Gabby Gum's press DJPon3/Vinyl x Octavia Was the major about to say jackass? hehe That little Changeling. I think it is the one that reads Daring Do books at that one fanfic, but it could also be another.. Nod to Button Mash, though not as a fan project but along with the other bad options for Cherilee that were pointed out at the Hearts & Hooves episode The rest is just a bunch of background characters and side characters that I'll just group together here. [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobax Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 [spoiler=Cobax] [/spoiler] I saw that one the other day on DeviantArt. Beautiful isn't it? For once, I'm actually looking forward to EG3, and because Sunset Shimmer ended up growing on me during the second one. ever since i saw the 2nd film. its hard for me dislike her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted June 14, 2015 Report Share Posted June 14, 2015 [spoiler=Bowlers] Great reference to the Big Lebowski[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 14, 2015 Report Share Posted June 14, 2015 Episode was fucking perfect. Yes, I'm a sucker for references/in-jokes/etc to the show itself; shoosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobax Posted June 14, 2015 Report Share Posted June 14, 2015 who here seen these two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 I sort of get him but not completely. He's right about the continuity issues. Spike going during the season's pilot would have made it a clone of the Wonder Ponies episode, and Alicorn magic shouldn't be that easy to take out (that part still bothers me) since up until now only other alicorns, Discord, and Tirek after massive upgrades were able to do so. Or how not knowing what their curie mark is for after getting it for years... that's not how I thought cutie marks worked. I wouldn't stop watching the show for that because there's also plenty of good to talk about for the season so far, but I can get around his stopping on the pony part.... Yeah here's the thing. MLP has never really had that much of a coherent story beyond the overarching plot for the season. Anything else is episodic and as such the continuity we see is fans attempting to make everything make sense. As for the cutie mark bit here's the thing about those . . . we really don't know much about how they appear. The only concrete evidence we have is "they represent your special talent." If we believe that they appear the moment you realize your special talent . . . then why did Cheerilee's appear when she was asleep? She said, "and one day I woke up . . . and my cutie mark had appeared!" Also for the episode about mistaking your cutie mark. I don't think Horse Shoes did- I think his cutie mark does mean he's got nothing but bad luck. I think the theme of the episode was more along the lines of, "you keep thinking you can't be happy with the cutie mark, but you can use it and still follow your dream!" Basically a "if life gives you lemons" scenario. On the other hand, he DID explode and over-react, and although I still watch him on YouTube, I have no idea what he's looking for. Then in his "what's next?" video he also did say that he will not be following any one show to prevent inspiration from going away, and that he'll even drop a lot of activity on his main channel because he wants to do other things like his Revel Pixels channel. I think this could potentially eradicate more of his patreons.. People are understanding on him to a degree but the Patreon thing is kind of a job as well so he can't just say he'll completely change everything (reviews in general, not just the pony ones) he's been known for all of a sudden and expect no lows. Inspiration is important but I don't buy that he disliked reviewing or disregarded it as something as little as he implied. It takes being invested to do it how he did it... I'm going to wait like I did with Digibro, see what he has in store and if it doesn't interest me unsubscribe. Digi has, so far, kept my interest. Their spies fan comic from DeviantArt I like how they used that to explain why the toys of her are called Sweetie Drops yet also having the name Bon Bon. Also, guys . . . guys . . . that symbol on Agent Bon Bon's suitcase . . . Bon Bon has totally worked with Daring Do before! who here seen these two? Who hasn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 Yeah here's the thing. MLP has never really had that much of a coherent story beyond the overarching plot for the season. Anything else is episodic and as such the continuity we see is fans attempting to make everything make sense. As for the cutie mark bit here's the thing about those . . . we really don't know much about how they appear. The only concrete evidence we have is "they represent your special talent." If we believe that they appear the moment you realize your special talent . . . then why did Cheerilee's appear when she was asleep? She said, "and one day I woke up . . . and my cutie mark had appeared!" Also for the episode about mistaking your cutie mark. I don't think Horse Shoes did- I think his cutie mark does mean he's got nothing but bad luck. I think the theme of the episode was more along the lines of, "you keep thinking you can't be happy with the cutie mark, but you can use it and still follow your dream!" Basically a "if life gives you lemons" scenario. I'm going to wait like I did with Digibro, see what he has in store and if it doesn't interest me unsubscribe. Digi has, so far, kept my interest. I like how they used that to explain why the toys of her are called Sweetie Drops yet also having the name Bon Bon. Also, guys . . . guys . . . that symbol on Agent Bon Bon's suitcase . . . Bon Bon has totally worked with Daring Do before! Who hasn't? For Cherilee, I'm willing to count the possibility of her realization being inside a dream as potentially legit. So what you are saying is that the realized his purpose in life was to have bad luck, and since he had realized it THAT is why the cutie mark appear. He only needed to keep try and experiment with his life until his talent could either not bother him or even be used as an advantage? I could probably buy that. Still, most examples we had (the mane6 ones) were from the instant they realized what their passion was and how they were going to be going about it.... well, maybe not Fluttershy because she only knew she loved all live from the ground and I guess she wouldn't know she'd come to be a caretaker expert slash veterinarian from the get go. In general a show can be heavily plot-reliant or be completely episodic, but if the latter is what it chooses to be it still needs to abide by whatever few laws it ends up establishing along the way. Because of the above paragraph I just wrote, I could get behind the concept of cutie marks being somewhat vague so I won't fault the show too much for this, but if it did end up contradicting itself I would personally have an issue with it. I don't have a solid one at the moment, and my previews comment is more so trying to get where Tommy Oliver is coming from rather than completely agreeing with his view on the show. I mean he did say if the fandom and show was like it is today since back then he wouldn't touch it with a ten foot stick... That implies he is heavily disgusted... I get some fans can be pretty terrible in any fandom, but I wouldn't treat a negative side as an everything, nor do I think the show is doing all that badly. If anything I have the most issues with Starlight Glimmer's magic than anything else. I wasn't aware Bonbon had that issue. That's an awesome nod. [spoiler=Also, on my list of references I forgot to list Octavia doing what 2 Cellos did] More precisely speaking 4:35 to near the end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT3SBzmDxGk [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 For Cherilee, I'm willing to count the possibility of her realization being inside a dream as potentially legit. Eh we don't have any more evidence so anything is possible I guess. Though a dream I really don't buy. So what you are saying is that the realized his purpose in life was to have bad luck, and since he had realized it THAT is why the cutie mark appear. He only needed to keep try and experiment with his life until his talent could either not bother him or even be used as an advantage? I could probably buy that. Pretty much. Still, most examples we had (the mane6 ones) were from the instant they realized what their passion was and how they were going to be going about it.... well, maybe not Fluttershy because she only knew she loved all live from the ground and I guess she wouldn't know she'd come to be a caretaker expert slash veterinarian from the get go. Well remember this, it was them talking about one of the single most important moments in their lives- to date. The nostalgia goggles are going to be on no matter what; obviously so for ponies like Twilight. I think they might have "gussied" the scenario up a bit to be honest. In general a show can be heavily plot-reliant or be completely episodic, but if the latter is what it chooses to be it still needs to abide by whatever few laws it ends up establishing along the way. Because of the above paragraph I just wrote, I could get behind the concept of cutie marks being somewhat vague so I won't fault the show too much for this, but if it did end up contradicting itself I would personally have an issue with it. I don't have a solid one at the moment, and my previews comment is more so trying to get where Tommy Oliver is coming from rather than completely agreeing with his view on the show. I mean he did say if the fandom and show was like it is today since back then he wouldn't touch it with a ten foot stick... That implies he is heavily disgusted... I get some fans can be pretty terrible in any fandom, but I wouldn't treat a negative side as an everything, nor do I think the show is doing all that badly. Yeah not completely disagreeing with Tommy either, just stating that nothing is perfect and there will always be holes in the plot. And I think Tommy jut listened to a minority and used that as a reason to get out beyond the fact he didn't want to be "stuck in a job" that he supposedly hated doing; I honestly think he enjoys reviews and what not but just got tired of the actual amount work he had to put into it. But that is neither here nor there. For me the show is decent enough, the story is alright and surprisingly better than I think it can be at times, yet it's the characters I truly enjoy the most. Came and stayed for the characters. And the world, but more so the characters. If anything I have the most issues with Starlight Glimmer's magic than anything else. We have magical spells that allow time travel, reversing the effects of gravity, altering reality, completely negating any magic up to Alicorn magic, and so on . . . Why you having an issue with Starlight's magic again when we've already had some pretty outlandish magical feats? I wasn't aware Bonbon had that issue. That's an awesome nod. Yeah if you go out the vinyl figure of her is listed as "Sweetie Drops" but on her CCG card and other places she is listed as "Bon Bon". Kind of like how Derpy is called that, Ditzy Do, and in the credits for this episode as well as on toy packages "Muffins"; though for Derpy I think it's Hasbro's way of avoiding pissing off soccer moms again by just having a picture of a muffin- we all know her real name anyways. Now onto a few other things I noticed and the episode as a whole! Apparently the changling we saw was, according to a Tweet from one of the people who worked on it, a guest of Matilda and NOT Cranky. Odd, since I thought he was initially a part of Cranky's portion. I do have serious questions about the legitimacy of this episodes canon to the rest of the series. I mean this IS a 100th episode SPECIAL; it could be in the vein of canon like the first five episodes of Season Five. You all remember those, right? The pony of shadows, Fluttershy still having a vampire fruit bat fang, and so on . . . Is this episode going to be following that as, oh yeah it really didn't happen but it's a nice/interesting thing to do anyways or what? If we see at any point later on that Cranky and Matilda ARE married then it's confirmed . . . all of this episode IS canon. And I love, most, of it; still debating Agent Bon Bon more than I should be . . . I'm over it. GO MY PRECIOUS FANDOM! WRITE ME AGENT BON BON STORIES TO REVIEW! Agent Bon Bon, Daring Do, guest starring the Mysterious Mare-Do Well and including the P.I.B.! It needs to happen!!! Something else I enjoyed was seeing Celestia and Luna bickering like actual siblings. I enjoyed that since it brings out more character from them beyond the standard "smile and wave" or "act regal and important" we constantly get from them. OH! And a Jack and Jane are the terms used to describe, obviously, a male and female donkey; like how we call male horses stallions and females mares. I'm glad neither Button Mash or Vinyl spoke. If it isn't ShadyVox and Nowaking, respectively, then no one is going to be happy. Glad Hasbro has realized that. Also getting a good Derpy voice and fixing the British accents for Octavia and Doctor Hooves- YES! The only nitpick I can do about the story is . . . seeing just everyone at the wedding ceremony. You have a changling and a sea monster, yes, but Cranky has literally been ALL OVER EQUESTRIA looking for Matilda! GO EXTREME WITH THE SPECIES!!! I want to see Minotaurs, Kelpies, Centaurs, Griffons, and what not sitting in the stands watching. I wanted to see the crowd and think, "BY Faust what kind of life has Cranky lived!?" Just remembered . . . Gummy internal monologue. My reaction: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobax Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 If only Gummy was voiced by Morgan Freemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 [spoiler=Your post] Eh we don't have any more evidence so anything is possible I guess. Though a dream I really don't buy. Well remember this, it was them talking about one of the single most important moments in their lives- to date. The nostalgia goggles are going to be on no matter what; obviously so for ponies like Twilight. I think they might have "gussied" the scenario up a bit to be honest. Yeah not completely disagreeing with Tommy either, just stating that nothing is perfect and there will always be holes in the plot. And I think Tommy jut listened to a minority and used that as a reason to get out beyond the fact he didn't want to be "stuck in a job" that he supposedly hated doing; I honestly think he enjoys reviews and what not but just got tired of the actual amount work he had to put into it. We have magical spells that allow time travel, reversing the effects of gravity, altering reality, completely negating any magic up to Alicorn magic, and so on . . . Why you having an issue with Starlight's magic again when we've already had some pretty outlandish magical feats? I do have serious questions about the legitimacy of this episodes canon to the rest of the series. I mean this IS a 100th episode SPECIAL; it could be in the vein of canon like the first five episodes of Season Five. You all remember those, right? The pony of shadows, Fluttershy still having a vampire fruit bat fang, and so on . . . Is this episode going to be following that as, oh yeah it really didn't happen but it's a nice/interesting thing to do anyways or what?. I'm glad neither Button Mash or Vinyl spoke. If it isn't ShadyVox and Nowaking, respectively, then no one is going to be happy. Glad Hasbro has realized that. Also getting a good Derpy voice and fixing the British accents for Octavia and Doctor Hooves- YES! The only nitpick I can do about the story is . . . seeing just everyone at the wedding ceremony. You have a changling and a sea monster, yes, but Cranky has literally been ALL OVER EQUESTRIA looking for Matilda! GO EXTREME WITH THE SPECIES!!! I want to see Minotaurs, Kelpies, Centaurs, Griffons, and what not sitting in the stands watching. I wanted to see the crowd and think, "BY Faust what kind of life has Cranky lived!?" [/spoiler] The chance of it having been in a dream is there because Luna demonstrated dreams are canon places, though either this or any other theory will just stay in the realm of possibility. I'd personally buy it, but I can see people not reacting the same way. The comment on nostalgia googles is a little bit of a hoop, just like my comment about "it could have been in a dream". We could assume many things. We could assume Cherilee just over-resuming it or using the "one day I woke up and it was there" as an expression to mean that it happened when she least expected rather than her literally waking up to have it. If anything, I'd take more seriously the mane6 tales than Cherilee's because they actually told a story there, or rather 6 stories that connect each other without glaring holes. On Tommy's issue, I agree with you completely there. [spoiler=On the broad amount of spells there are, let me think about it for a moment and hopefully I can word my issues coherently enough. Better be in a spoiler] Time travel and inverting gravity are fine since they don't conflict with anything greater. On the other hand altering reality and negating magic up to alicorn level wasn't done by ponies. The first example there was definitely Discord, though I can't remember when the second happened other than the Smooze, or when Tirek absorbed it. During those instances discord never really directly took down any alicorn's magic and Tirek needed to gather a lot of power before deciding to go for it. When it is non-ponies doing it, there is nothing written. Discord did take away unicorn horns though, but that's still a lower tier. However, Starlight Glimmer took down an alicorn's magic on her own. She didn't use any magical item or outside force or help from anyone to enhance her power. She just randomly created that spell. Someone go tell Tirek he could have gone for the alicorns from the beginning. Also, being a prodigy is not enough. Neither Trixie even with the alicorn amulet on nor Sunset Shimmer even with the stolen element on got there. It also sounds like a mighty handy thing to do for these characters when they weren't exactly on the good side, or it could have even at least been attempted by Celestia against Nightmare Moon, Discord, Tirek, Sombra, or Crysalis and save herself having to lock or seal away some of them. Yes there was nothing outright written about it, but it still felt cheap IMO. The whole debut of her episode had more things that felt a little bit forced than just her magic, which doesn't help her case either. Magic as a form of excusing any action or outlandish thing that happens can only go so far. Yes you can make characters do incredible stuff like inverting gravity upon their bodies or time traveling, but every time it happens laws on how said magic works in that universe start forming even if the authors themselves don't realize it. Such a thing as plot holes can happen in worlds of magic too. [/spoiler] The canon is probably fine. I heard at some point that they are trying to keep everything canon to each other as much as possible. The only reason they said Equestria Girls isn't is because they were expecting a backlash from their experiment. Even then, Sunset Shimmer is mentioned in the comics, which for the most part (at least the series I follow because there's like 2 or 3) seems to complement the cartoon pretty well without any glaring contradictions as far as I can tell. So even if secretly, I think they'll keep it canon. Though they will probably not say it until/unless they deem it safe enough to say so. I mean, you never know when some part of the fandom or relatives from certain members (cough cough soccermomscough) will try to start something. We could have probably had more of these characters much earlier than episode 100 in the show, but people just HAD to complain about Derpy..... I didn't know Vinyl had a VA or a voice at all at any given point =0 I'm not more intrigued by Matilda meeting a Changeling. I totally thought it was just a nod to this one: (link to page 1 out of like 15 so far) http://vavacung.deviantart.com/art/Changeling-Scout-And-The-Book-Of-Daring-Do-01-508154802 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 You know what was honestly really clever about Slice of Life? The fact that they made a little story about BonBon being some sort of secret agent who was using the name Sweetie Drops as a cover. .... Literally because of the fact the fan name for her was Bon, for like, ages, and then Sweetie being a name they gave her via the toy version, which was the first instance of an actual name for her. So it works as both a reference to the toy and the fandom itself, at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 Time travel and inverting gravity are fine since they don't conflict with anything greater. On the other hand altering reality and negating magic up to alicorn level wasn't done by ponies. The first example there was definitely Discord, though I can't remember when the second happened other than the Smooze, or when Tirek absorbed it. During those instances discord never really directly took down any alicorn's magic and Tirek needed to gather a lot of power before deciding to go for it. When it is non-ponies doing it, there is nothing written. Discord did take away unicorn horns though, but that's still a lower tier. However, Starlight Glimmer took down an alicorn's magic on her own. She didn't use any magical item or outside force or help from anyone to enhance her power. She just randomly created that spell. Someone go tell Tirek he could have gone for the alicorns from the beginning. Also, being a prodigy is not enough. Neither Trixie even with the alicorn amulet on nor Sunset Shimmer even with the stolen element on got there. It also sounds like a mighty handy thing to do for these characters when they weren't exactly on the good side, or it could have even at least been attempted by Celestia against Nightmare Moon, Discord, Tirek, Sombra, or Crysalis and save herself having to lock or seal away some of them. Yes there was nothing outright written about it, but it still felt cheap IMO. The whole debut of her episode had more things that felt a little bit forced than just her magic, which doesn't help her case either. Magic as a form of excusing any action or outlandish thing that happens can only go so far. Yes you can make characters do incredible stuff like inverting gravity upon their bodies or time traveling, but every time it happens laws on how said magic works in that universe start forming even if the authors themselves don't realize it. Such a thing as plot holes can happen in worlds of magic too. Time travel and inverting gravity doesn’t conflict with anything greater!? Please tell me you’re joking . . . time travel is literally the second greatest thing that causes complications/conflicts to anything- the first being alternative reality. As for altering reality, while Discord IS the chief and best example . . . I was referring to the fact that Twilight’s use of Starswirl’s unfinished spell caused reality to change completely. A spell, though uncomplete, was capable of altering nearly all of reality. Also you forget that in Equestria Games (*shudders*) there is a magical vortex everyone has to walk through that cancels their magic. That is ALSO a spell created and used by ponies. And it canceled even Celestia and Luna’s magic- since they also couldn’t help to stop the massive ice cloud from crushing anything . . . thus giving Spike the most plot assisted way of saving the day if there ever was one. But, again, the spell is a pony spell. Not only that but Starlight Glimmer even states in the second part that, and I quote, “I spent years on that spell!” The spell she’s referring to is the cutie mark removal spell. So while it is an impressive spell, that dialogue and seeing it being used a second time revealed to me two things: 1.) The spell requires literal years to master, if not merely be able to use it. 2.) The spell, possibly even if mastered, requires a considerable amount of start time before being fired- thus making it the “Special Beam Canon” of spells. Devastating if it hits, but takes way too long to fire. Though I’ll agree that rules begin to form wither the authors realize it or not. I am merely pointing out that, given everything we’ve seen, Starlight Glimmer’s cutie mark removal spell isn’t that big of a problem to me. I even just remembered we have a spell that allows beings to travel INTO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT UNIVERSE! The canon is probably fine. I heard at some point that they are trying to keep everything canon to each other as much as possible. The only reason they said Equestria Girls isn't is because they were expecting a backlash from their experiment. Even then, Sunset Shimmer is mentioned in the comics, which for the most part (at least the series I follow because there's like 2 or 3) seems to complement the cartoon pretty well without any glaring contradictions as far as I can tell. So even if secretly, I think they'll keep it canon. Though they will probably not say it until/unless they deem it safe enough to say so. I mean, you never know when some part of the fandom or relatives from certain members (cough cough soccermomscough) will try to start something. We could have probably had more of these characters much earlier than episode 100 in the show, but people just HAD to complain about Derpy..... Eh I really wasn't that pleased with Derpy's original voice, but I found it tolerable. The comics are canon unless it directly conflicts with the narrative of the story. So if the comics had anything about the Griffon's homeland it all became moot when the kingdom was shown in the show. Though fans will hang onto their head canons like that last scene in Titanic. I didn't know Vinyl had a VA or a voice at all at any given point =0 Not officially, but if you go and find ANY video of Vinyl were she speaks it's always going to be Jesse Nowaking- the fan VA for her. The fans love her so much she has become the DEFINITIVE voice for Vinyl. So if Vinyl spoke in the show and it wasn't her . . . same reaction as when Derpy first spoke, but this time we're the soccer moms. I'm not more intrigued by Matilda meeting a Changeling. I totally thought it was just a nod to this one: (link to page 1 out of like 15 so far) http://vavacung.deviantart.com/art/Changeling-Scout-And-The-Book-Of-Daring-Do-01-508154802 Hu . . . well I guess the changling can be a nod to that . . . You know what was honestly really clever about Slice of Life? The fact that they made a little story about BonBon being some sort of secret agent who was using the name Sweetie Drops as a cover. .... Literally because of the fact the fan name for her was Bon, for like, ages, and then Sweetie being a name they gave her via the toy version, which was the first instance of an actual name for her. So it works as both a reference to the toy and the fandom itself, at the same time. Already been over that Arm. The symbol on her breif case is also the same as the one on Daring Do's book that she kept the ring away from A-howeveryouspellit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 Time travel and inverting gravity doesn’t conflict with anything greater!? Please tell me you’re joking . . . time travel is literally the second greatest thing that causes complications/conflicts to anything- the first being alternative reality. As for altering reality, while Discord IS the chief and best example . . . I was referring to the fact that Twilight’s use of Starswirl’s unfinished spell caused reality to change completely. A spell, though uncomplete, was capable of altering nearly all of reality. Also you forget that in Equestria Games (*shudders*) there is a magical vortex everyone has to walk through that cancels their magic. That is ALSO a spell created and used by ponies. And it canceled even Celestia and Luna’s magic- since they also couldn’t help to stop the massive ice cloud from crushing anything . . . thus giving Spike the most plot assisted way of saving the day if there ever was one. But, again, the spell is a pony spell. Not only that but Starlight Glimmer even states in the second part that, and I quote, “I spent years on that spell!” The spell she’s referring to is the cutie mark removal spell. So while it is an impressive spell, that dialogue and seeing it being used a second time revealed to me two things: 1.) The spell requires literal years to master, if not merely be able to use it. 2.) The spell, possibly even if mastered, requires a considerable amount of start time before being fired- thus making it the “Special Beam Canon” of spells. Devastating if it hits, but takes way too long to fire. Though I’ll agree that rules begin to form wither the authors realize it or not. I am merely pointing out that, given everything we’ve seen, Starlight Glimmer’s cutie mark removal spell isn’t that big of a problem to me. I even just remembered we have a spell that allows beings to travel INTO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT UNIVERSE! Not joking at all. You didn't seem to get what I meant. Yes time travel is one of the biggest issue-makers in fiction and story-telling in general, though the way MLP did it had Twilight only be able to do it once, and that one time she still was powerless to change a single thing. Not to mention she didn't conflict with no alicorn magic there. What exactly did she conflict with that makes her time travel a good example? Same with the alternate universe mirrors of Starswirl. Those were made by a unicorn, though also by Celestia's help, but the point here is, I don't remember those overpowering Celestia's magic in any way either. You can tell that breaking them makes her unable to keep crossing, but that's not sealing anything in her magic, but it was merely a tool that stopped working. Starswirl's unfinished spell had never been shown to allow unicorn magic to affect alicorns though. Yes it did move cutie marks, but moving cutie marks is not my issue here. I also remember that Zekora was able to mess with that too. I'll be honest here, I don't remember the Equestria Games episode very well, though I don't remember that to having been made by a single normal unicorn at any given time. Sombra is not a single normal unicorn even though it isn't an alicorn, and by that I mean that there's magic in him that's not originally his (if the comics are canon at least). He's pretty much similar to Nightmare Moon, in a way. I'll re-watch the season 5 premiere just to make sure of this, but the way I remember it had Starlight Glimmer saying she'd been studying magic for years, not THAT single spell in particular, which would put her on a similar level to Sunset Shimmer or Twilight (if Twilight was still a unicorn), and before that argument can arise: No, Sunset also didn't directly mess with Twilight in pony form until the elements were in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 Leaving this here: Yes, it's in this episode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Again Arm, welcome to the party. I'm pretty sure all of us already knew that . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobax Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyztpxe_qU8&feature=iv&src_vid=REzffSDxHKI&annotation_id=annotation_1369320197 looky looky Leaving this here: Yes, it's in this episode My timing on that video was not right so i was not able to spot it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Eh the video Cobax was . . . alright . . . some interesting choices for who would play whom. But ultimately, and this is just me, I really don't like the 3D Vector Pony style of animation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobax Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 but Equestria girls version of SFM was a new age of source film making parodies. but there are not that many of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 ITT: Getting attacked for posting images is pro Real question is, though... Who is which Horse Head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobax Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG0zoW7PtX8 just going to just leave this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobax Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crkbf3a1PnQ interesting video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 The DS and Castaway ones were pretty amusing.So was the one with the Spy Crabs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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