This Account is Unplayable Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Passions of the Flame' timestamp='1311355658' post='5377708'] Obviously not the same. As for tengu's “removed from the field” what does that actually mean because I thought up a way to abuse this card up to hell if i'm correct. [/quote] Quite simply whenever it leaves the field, bar returning to the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I thought returning to the Deck counted as being removed from the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Mr. Striker' timestamp='1311356409' post='5377746'] I thought returning to the Deck counted as being removed from the field. [/quote] Well, you thought wrong. Returning to the deck only works if the card says it itself, like Serpentine Princess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Card Effects can't resolve in the Main Deck unless the card specifically says so (like Serpentine). Aslla Piscu was also ruled this way. The reason Absolute Zero gets off the hook is because returning to the Deck is returning to the Extra Deck, where effects can resolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Cyber Eltanin' timestamp='1311356504' post='5377752'] Well, you thought wrong. Returning to the deck only works if the card says it itself, like Serpentine Princess. [/quote] Well then, I did think wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 posting the same thing I did on DGZ: [img]http://myfacewhen.com/images/63.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Oh dear god, I was right. Tengu Plantsworn is looking really good now x] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote]Oh dear god, I was right. Tengu Plantsworn is looking really good now x][/quote] Tengu and Lightsworn in the same deck is a terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1311360222' post='5377896'] Tengu and Lightsworn in the same deck is a terrible idea. [/quote] >Action failed: You have reached your quota for positive votes for the day > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1311360222' post='5377896'] Tengu and Lightsworn in the same deck is a terrible idea. [/quote] Not really if you think about it. I run a synchrosworn deck that abuses glow-up bulb. If you side the 15 most needed cards and copies of lightsworns you can easily exchange and mix the deck up a bit. Say you Tengu on the field and you summon bulb. Synchro for catastor and another tengu comes out. You now have the ability to re-use bulb to bring out either another level 5, a level 6, or whatever your milled card happens to be. Having the cards mixed you can either mill dandylion, plaguespreader, wulf, or spore. Or even a plant that gigaplant can ressurect. You're increasing your chances for synchro summons by having some lightsworns mixed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Passions of the Flame' timestamp='1311360640' post='5377921'] Not really if you think about it. I run a synchrosworn deck that abuses glow-up bulb. If you side the 15 most needed cards and copies of lightsworns you can easily exchange and mix the deck up a bit. Say you Tengu on the field and you summon bulb. Synchro for catastor and another tengu comes out. You now have the ability to re-use bulb to bring out either another level 5, a level 6, or whatever your milled card happens to be. Having the cards mixed you can either mill dandylion, plaguespreader, wulf, or spore. Or even a plant that gigaplant can ressurect. You're increasing your chances for synchro summons by having some lightsworns mixed in. [/quote] You're not doing it right at all, mill is terrible with Tengu Plants because milling a single Tengu or Lonefire would hurt the deck. Tengu depends on his copies being in the deck, if you mill them you effectively just destroyed the point of the deck. Lightsworn wouldn't add anything to the deck besides a lack of consistency that it doesn't need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Frost Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Passions of the Flame' timestamp='1311360640' post='5377921'] Not really if you think about it. I run a synchrosworn deck that abuses glow-up bulb. If you side the 15 most needed cards and copies of lightsworns you can easily exchange and mix the deck up a bit. Say you Tengu on the field and you summon bulb. Synchro for catastor and another tengu comes out. You now have the ability to re-use bulb to bring out either another level 5, a level 6, or whatever your milled card happens to be. Having the cards mixed you can either mill dandylion, plaguespreader, wulf, or spore. Or even a plant that gigaplant can ressurect. You're increasing your chances for synchro summons by having some lightsworns mixed in. [/quote] Suddendly Quasar is much more playable.... "Tengu IS God!" We must BAN God soon...[quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｐｌｅｎｄｉｄ ＶＥＮＵＳ' timestamp='1311361232' post='5377952'] You're not doing it right at all, mill is terrible with Tengu Plants because milling a single Tengu or Lonefire would hurt the deck. Tengu depends on his copies being in the deck, if you mill them you effectively just destroyed the point of the deck. Lightsworn wouldn't add anything to the deck besides a lack of consistency that it doesn't need. [/quote] Pot of Avarice x 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Nah, he's not God Tier. I'd say he's toptier, but not god tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 What card is considered "godtier"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Mr. Striker' timestamp='1311361531' post='5377972'] What card is considered "godtier"? [/quote] Pot of Greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｐｌｅｎｄｉｄ ＶＥＮＵＳ' timestamp='1311361232' post='5377952'] You're not doing it right at all, mill is terrible with Tengu Plants because milling a single Tengu or Lonefire would hurt the deck. Tengu depends on his copies being in the deck, if you mill them you effectively just destroyed the point of the deck. Lightsworn wouldn't add anything to the deck besides a lack of consistency that it doesn't need. [/quote] ITT there is no such thing as Graveyard control. I've never seen anybody lose a duel just because they milled a Lonefire or Tengu :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Frost Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Pot of Duality =/= Pot of Greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1311361623' post='5377974'] ITT there is no such thing as Graveyard control. I've never seen anybody lose a duel just because they milled a Lonefire or Tengu :/ [/quote] I'd like to see someone actually do a full-blown Tengu Plantsworn where Pot of Avarice is consistent. The idea of Tengu with actual Lightsworn is still bad regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｐｌｅｎｄｉｄ ＶＥＮＵＳ' timestamp='1311362150' post='5378001'] I'd like to see someone actually do a full-blown Tengu Plantsworn where Pot of Avarice is consistent. The idea of Tengu with actual Lightsworn is still bad regardless. [/quote] When did I ever say JUST lightsworn? And pot of avarice is actually what makes the deck style better. Even IF you mill all 3 tengus you still have the plantsworn that works well together. While you have Gigaplant on the field and a lightsworns milling you can easily abuse gigas ressurection effect and bring out a tuner or just another giga plant. You can either work towards getting JD out faster or bring out a horde of synchro monsters. Just because three cards are in the grave doesn't automatically make a deck style that already existed useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Honestly, that sounds painfully inconsistent compared to the consistent version of it that already exists but have fun with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｐｌｅｎｄｉｄ ＶＥＮＵＳ' timestamp='1311362916' post='5378036'] Honestly, that sounds painfully inconsistent compared to the consistent version of it that already exists but have fun with that. [/quote] Mine is consistent I'm always milling tuners that can be special summoned, wulf, or dandylion:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Hey, if you can get it to work, all the power to you and maybe it'll get netdecked. The theory sounds inconsistent, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Well, if anyone here still uses YN I wouldn't mind showing how it works:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Frost Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Passions of the Flame' timestamp='1311362716' post='5378030'] When did I ever say JUST lightsworn? And pot of avarice is actually what makes the deck style better. Even IF you mill all 3 tengus you still have the plantsworn that works well together. While you have Gigaplant on the field and a lightsworns milling you can easily abuse gigas ressurection effect and bring out a tuner or just another giga plant. You can either work towards getting JD out faster or bring out a horde of synchro monsters. Just because three cards are in the grave doesn't automatically make a deck style that already existed useless. [/quote] A hybrid deck with the right support actually is somewhat consistent. It'll just mill a bit more than DoppelPlants running ryko. I can even see this build running not 2 but 3 Pot of Avarice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Cody Frost' timestamp='1311363318' post='5378060'] A hybrid deck with the right support actually is somewhat consistent. It'll just mill a bit more than DoppelPlants running ryko. I can even see this build running not 2 but 3 Pot of Avarice... [/quote] It does run three just in case my luck if messed up and I mill both JD and both gigas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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