Mehmani Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Of course I didn't always question, I was a child, I didn't understand enough to question. The books I read were very much separate to my upbringing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 You're fourteen right now, so anything around you I classify as part of your upbringing. When I said part of you upbringing I meant the environment you grow up in and what you are exposed to. I think every human comes into this world as a blank slate, tabula rasa if you will, and depending on how they are raised, they will have different beliefs and behaviors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flinsbon Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I still can't understand why Jews, Christians, and Muslims don't accept each other. They are all under the same God after all and are [i]supposed[/i] to preach acceptance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 [quote name='Flinsbon' timestamp='1310824640' post='5360132'] I still can't understand why Jews, Christians, and Muslims don't accept each other. They are all under the same God after all and are [i]supposed[/i] to preach acceptance. [/quote] That may be but they are not the same god... Jahova, Yaweh, and Allah... They are very similar but Christians believe the bible is truth while Muslims believe the Quran is... And th Jews believe the Torah and Talmud are, a lot of what they do is the same but there will always be underlying arguments between the two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 A little history lesson. Jews were the first Christians. Got to love that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 [list=1] [*]Pick your favorite ideology, the one you think will make the world a better place. [*]Apply it and wait 2000 years. [*]Read history books, ask people their opinions on it. [*] [/list] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I do admit that the Europeans went to far during the Colonization Age in Africa. They just used Christianity to reap the raw materials in Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Christians worship a Jew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 [quote name='Welche' timestamp='1310841900' post='5360825'] Christians worship a Jew [/quote] Jesus was raised in a Jewish family. That is correct, but Jesus is the Son of God. Like I said, Jews were the first Christians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 [quote name='Anthony Hatsune' timestamp='1310833033' post='5360420'] That may be but they are not the same god... Jahova, Yaweh, and Allah... [/quote] Except Jahova and Yaweh aren't anything. They're just slightly different ways of pronouncing "Yhwh", the actual name of God, since that word doesn't have any vowels in it. "Allah" is literally just arabic for "god", and if I spoke arabic and was also a Christian, I'd STILL call God "Allah". The fact that the religions believe in slightly different sets of religious texts (keep in mind that all three of them believe in most of the Old Testament, so there's at least one commonality) is nonmaterial, they're still worshiping the same God. By your logic, Catholics and Protestants worship different Gods too, as does anyone else who interprets the Bible in a slightly different way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Jews and Christians worship the same God, the only difference is the addition of Jesus to the Christian equation. Islam I'm not entirely sure on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 [quote name='Mr. Striker' timestamp='1310840022' post='5360749'] A little history lesson. Jews were the first Christians. Got to love that. [/quote] Also Jews got their ideas from the religious revolution created by Akhenaten.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 [quote name='Anthony Hatsune' timestamp='1310882272' post='5362318'] Also Jews got their ideas from the religious revolution created by Akhenaten.... [/quote] I wonder how accurate this is? I cannot rule it out, but I don't think that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Islam is the same as Judaism and Christianity except it takes Jesus as a Prophet and not the son of God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 [quote name='Führer King Bradley' timestamp='1310933216' post='5363650'] Islam is the same as Judaism and Christianity except it takes Jesus as a Prophet and not the son of God [/quote] Jews didn't accept Jesus even though he fulfilled all the prophecies concerning the Messiah. Christians do however. Muslims, well I don't want to go there. In my stand point, they are a tad misinformed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='Mr. Striker' timestamp='1310935481' post='5363758'] Jews didn't accept Jesus even though he fulfilled all the prophecies concerning the Messiah. Christians do however. Muslims, well I don't want to go there. In my stand point, they are a tad misinformed. [/quote] I believe all three are a tad misinformed but that is just me... EDIT: Sorry I take it back that was a stupid thing to say, but I do believe that religious texts have been misinterpreted but I never meant it in that way srry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flinsbon Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Jews believe that, as the Savior was said to be the "King of the Jews", then the real savior would be just that -- a King. They would not accept Jesus as the "King of the Jews" because he was not royalty. (imo a little narrow-minded but hey thats what they believe and I respect that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 [quote name='Mr. Striker' timestamp='1310935481' post='5363758'] Jews didn't accept Jesus even though he fulfilled all the prophecies concerning the Messiah. Christians do however. Muslims, well I don't want to go there. [b]In my stand point, they are a tad misinformed.[/b] [/quote] I presume that's because you're not a muslim. Exactly what's the point in mentioning that you think a religion outside of yours is incorrect? It's somewhat implied by the fact you're not part of that religion in the first place. By the way, Jesus is considered the second most important prophet in the koran, right below Mohammad. They believe that during the second coming, it will be Jesus who returns to deliver the faithful; basically the exact same Rapture that Christians have, except I'm fairly certain the Islam varient includes anyone who believes in the True God (And therefore Jews and Christians are also considered part of 'the faithful'). I think there's a title that they give Jesus that goes along the lines of "The Prophet who was closest to God". Basically, Muslims are pretty chill with Jesus, though they do take some issue with Christians worshiping him (as that's literally the exact opposite of what Mohammad told them to do. You know that "You're not allowed to draw or depict Mohammad" thing? That was made because the Prophet Mohammud didn't want anyone to worship him as an idol in the future instead of God). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I'm just gonna throw this one out there but I'm a devout pastafarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vough Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 [quote name='Welche' timestamp='1311056636' post='5368371'] I'm just gonna throw this one out there but I'm a devout pastafarian. [/quote] I don't really see how you can be a devout follower in a religion that was created to debunk other religions, but okay... and religion is all one's view. Even agnosticism is it's own view on religion. So religion is subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I take high offence that you think so lowly of my religion. Please don't go and say something like that, belittling my religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 It's funny because as a Christian I believe God gave us all free will, and that's why He asked us (Christians) to spread the word. Also, I don't know where in the Bible it says "MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN ME". Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 [quote name='Ghost Origins' timestamp='1311482621' post='5382380'] It's funny because as a Christian I believe God gave us all free will, and that's why He asked us (Christians) to spread the word. Also, I don't know where in the Bible it says "MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN ME". Anyone? [/quote] He hasn't forced anyone to believe in him. Free will is the reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 [quote name='Mr. Striker' timestamp='1311482894' post='5382390'] He hasn't forced anyone to believe in him. Free will is the reason why. [/quote] That's my point. This is exactly why I'm tired of hearing the extremist s***. "CHRISTIANS FORCE THEIR BELIEFS DOWN YOUR THROAT." "BELIEVE IN GOD OR BE PUNISHED." Bzzzt. Wrong. Cuz if God wanted everyone to believe in Him no matter what circumstance, we wouldn't have free will. Yes, He asked us to spread the word about Him, what he did, etc. But He did not absolutely, 100% COMMAND us to make others believe in Him. It even says in the Bible, that others won't believe. It depicts Atheism, Agnosticism, etc. I've got an Atheist friend who I asked to go to Chruch with me once (just cuz a Youth Pastor challenged me). He did go to say the least. When service was over and he looked at me and went, "You know I still don't believe in God right?" I replied," Yeah. Didn't think you would. But thanks for not treating me like a stranger." He goes and tells me, "I kinda like this whole religion thing in certain aspects, but it ain't right for me." I say to him, "Cool. So football tomorrow?" Still friends to this day. Simply put, to each his own. I found my way to Christ based on my belief (not fact). So if others find their way through me, I'm happy. If not, then so what? All I can do is say I tried to do what my Father asked. It ain't my place to MAKE you a Christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 I have based views on religion. [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Eae2pvqy8eM/TQP49QeEQ8I/AAAAAAAAADw/XEaQy9axajM/s1600/pic3.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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