Piracy

[Guest Tristan T. Taylor]

Hurr durr I can't afford something so I'll get it illegally.

 

This is coming from someone who does pirate a few things, and honestly that's a horrendous viewpoint. It's not like what you're pirating is even a necessity, they're merely a luxury, so they're not even remotely comparable to other things. It's worse than saying "I can't afford a reasonably priced car to get me from A to B" because the fact is you may need a car, but you don't need a luxury item. Personally, whenever I pirate something it's for temporary use, or to try a game out, until I can afford an actual copy of it. Admittedly I've not always bought the actual copy, but I do more often than not. Why? Because I enjoyed the item, and thus I wish to offer my support to the maker. In the end, it's what they worked hard to make, they deserve the money for it. Especially when if more and more people adapt the mentality that pirating is the only way to get something, there isn't going to be anything to pirate, because they won't have the money to make it, and what's the point making a product aimed to making profit when you make nothing from it?

[Kizzi]

ITT: idiots. Though I must admit, not just on the anti-pirate side.

 

EDT: Dark, I hope you're trolling (and doing a good job on it, congrats).

[ragnarok1945]

you know any people that pirate, Kizzi?

[Kizzi]

you know any people that pirate, Kizzi?

I do. Ambiguity? Ambiguity.

[ragnarok1945]

same here

 

too many people at my college all use the reason "We're poor, we can't scrape up enough money to buy it all"

[Kizzi]

same here

 

too many people at my college all use the reason "We're poor, we can't scrape up enough money to buy it all"

I pirate. I am in full support of piracy. Okay, fine, ambiguity is lame.

[ragnarok1945]

just be careful if you get caught

 

read on the news some months ago a woman was finally caught for pirating WAY too much music, and she was fined for like $5 million

[Guest Tristan T. Taylor]

just be careful if you get caught

 

read on the news some months ago a woman was finally caught for pirating WAY too much music, and she was fined for like $5 million

If you don't use P2P, the odds of getting caught are beyond minimal. Checking downloads is a breach of privacy, unless they have relative proof to suspect you of piracy.

[ragnarok1945]

Didn't you know what has happened in the US since the 9/11 attacks?

 

The Bush Administration launched the program to check EVERYTHING you can do on the computers, no matter what

 

When it was revealed in 2005, the public was outraged

 

Now, the monitoring is even worse, they're doing it to your blackberries, PDAs, smart phones, etc as well

[Kizzi]

Didn't you know what has happened in the US since the 9/11 attacks?

 

The Bush Administration launched the program to check EVERYTHING you can do on the computers, no matter what

 

When it was revealed in 2005, the public was outraged

 

Now, the monitoring is even worse, they're doing it to your blackberries, PDAs, smart phones, etc as well

No they're not, shut up.

[ragnarok1945]

trust me yes they are, they just don't want you to know about it

[Tentacruel]

Or maybe they aren't but they just want us to think they are.

[Resident Fascist]

HHHEEERRREEE WE GO AGAIN, Inb4Politicargument.

[Kizzi]

trust me yes they are, they just don't want you to know about it

gtfo my thread

[Guest Tristan T. Taylor]

Didn't you know what has happened in the US since the 9/11 attacks?

 

The Bush Administration launched the program to check EVERYTHING you can do on the computers, no matter what

 

When it was revealed in 2005, the public was outraged

 

Now, the monitoring is even worse, they're doing it to your blackberries, PDAs, smart phones, etc as well

Read what I said again.

 

Realise you were wrong.

 

Shut up.

 

?????

 

Profit.

[ragnarok1945]

Or maybe they aren't but they just want us to think they are.

 

yeah that's what I'm saying

 

returning to the piracy thread, it's the reason why they're making so many registering on sites to activate the product

[Johan Liebert]

they never get cought.

[ragnarok1945]

it happens, but only like 5% of the time

 

most people can get away with it

[Kizzi]

yeah that's what I'm saying

 

returning to the piracy thread, it's the reason why they're making so many registering on sites to activate the product

That's because a lot of companies are stupid and they too buying going HERP DERP trying (and failing) to prevent their game from being pirated. A few companies have realised that that's not the right approach, which is great.

[ragnarok1945]

this is exactly why you're never supposed to say your game is unhackable to the public

 

moment you say that, hundreds of people across the world will get right to it to disprove you

[Twig]

Have you not read anyone's post?

 

Have you?

 

For all those who says they pirate because games are too expensive and that cloning them isn't really stealing, you're still not entitled to the game.

 

A nice snippet from an article:

 

"I’m going to be straight up about this: I hate piracy. Just because someone leaves their proverbial pie on the windowsill doesn’t mean finders-keepers rules suddenly apply. It’s still stealing, regardless of whether or not someone’s watching when you do it. And back in the day, it used to be as simple as that. When someone pirated something, they had no justification. It was theft – plain and simple.

 

Recently, though, there’s been a groundswell movement of people who use piracy as a form of protest. “Look at us!” they shout. “We’re making an example of your product, which has somehow infringed upon our right to own it.” Gamers, especially, love to indulge in this line of thought. For instance, if a game’s allegedly not worth its asking price, piracy is clearly the only option. Or, more commonly, the eyepatches and peg-legs come flying out when – and here’s the fun part – games come bundled with invasive forms of anti-piracy software.

 

Watching the Olympic-caliber mental gymnastics that unfold here is actually a thing of beauty. So here’s how it breaks down: Step 1) “This DRM is unnecessary and unjustly pre-judges all gamers to be guilty of the crime of piracy.” Step 2) “However, as a wronged individual, it’s my right to own this game.” Step 3) “But how do I both stick it to The Man and partake of his awesome new game that, as I’ve already noted, it’s my right to own?” Step 4) “I know! I’ll pirate it! That’ll show ‘em how wrong they were for declaring me a dirty, no-good pirate!”

 

Yep.

 

There are people who exist – and even, to an extent, lead happy, productive lives – who think like this. I’ve always had something of a morbid fascination with these people, if only because – as a normal human being – my brain just wants the universe to make sense. Thus far, it’s been sorely disappointed."

 

http://gambleswithwords.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/nathans-unified-theory-of-participation-piracy-and-entitlement/

[Kizzi]

this is exactly why you're never supposed to say your game is unhackable to the public

 

moment you say that, hundreds of people across the world will get right to it to disprove you

More like exactly why DRM is pointless and nobody likes it.

[Twig]

More like exactly why DRM is pointless and nobody likes it.

 

Watching the Olympic-caliber mental gymnastics that unfold here is actually a thing of beauty. So here’s how it breaks down: Step 1) “This DRM is unnecessary and unjustly pre-judges all gamers to be guilty of the crime of piracy.” Step 2) “However, as a wronged individual, it’s my right to own this game.” Step 3) “But how do I both stick it to The Man and partake of his awesome new game that, as I’ve already noted, it’s my right to own?” Step 4) “I know! I’ll pirate it! That’ll show ‘em how wrong they were for declaring me a dirty, no-good pirate!”

 

^Proof that Kizzi didn't even read all the anti-pirate posts.

[ragnarok1945]

More like exactly why DRM is pointless and nobody likes it.

 

That's only because people can find ways around it too quickly

[Kizzi]

Watching the Olympic-caliber mental gymnastics that unfold here is actually a thing of beauty. So here’s how it breaks down: Step 1) “This DRM is unnecessary and unjustly pre-judges all gamers to be guilty of the crime of piracy.” Step 2) “However, as a wronged individual, it’s my right to own this game.” Step 3) “But how do I both stick it to The Man and partake of his awesome new game that, as I’ve already noted, it’s my right to own?” Step 4) “I know! I’ll pirate it! That’ll show ‘em how wrong they were for declaring me a dirty, no-good pirate!”

 

^Proof that Kizzi didn't even read all the anti-pirate posts.

I saw the bottom note and as such I'm not going to read your post. Make a clear point and I'll tell you why you're wrong.